Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
I'm off to bed but look at the QB you brought up Phoenix, what a horrible example or should I say weak one. Again Ponder is still young and might I add doing much better than a RG3 or a Colt McCoy. Also another thing to point out is the mechanics of a QB from a Pro Style offense will translate faster than one from a Gimick offense. Also could've sworn Drew Brees lined up under-center in college often? Also shouldn't draft position further prove my point in preference of a Pro Style QB?
C'mon, this is nonsense. RG3 had a tremendous rookie season, better than any season of Ponder's career thus far, he's struggled this season but of course his OL is garbage and he really doesn't have all that much to work with. Writing the guy off at this point makes no sense, you act like you're talking about Ryan Leaf
And refresh my memory but when was the last time a Spread option or read-option QB win a Super Bowl, I guess when Alex Smith wins one, he'll be the exception not the rule as you say in the other post.
Are we talking about in the NFL or in from college? If college, then this year with Joe Flacco who ran a "gimmick" spread offense in college. If you look at a team like New England, they've essentially been running an offshoot of the "gimmick" Run and Shoot for awhile now. The whole idea of "gimmick" offenses is meaningless, what happens when pro style offenses become more like college spread offenses....because that's what we are seeing more and more and the NFL is obviously encouraging it.
My point was RG3 has been figured out, same with Kaepernick, only Kaepernick has shown the ability to pass from the pocket a lot better, same goes for Russell Wilson, only he also ran a Pro Style offense in college. I am in no way, comparing RG3 to Ryan Leaf, MY POINT TO THIS WHOLE FIASCO IS THAT GIMMICK QB'S STRUGGLE TO SUCCEED IN THE NFL!!! And I'm not talking about just one-year of good football either.
As for Joe Flacco, I'm gonna use your "He's an exception not the rule" card, as majority QB's who won it were Pro Style QB's. Also what helped Flacco make his transition to the NFL was that he was/is a pure pocket passer and not a pure option QB. And NFL teams will use a pinch of a Gimmick system its not like they will use it as their Base offense.