Originally posted by Kolohe:
Oh C'mon Phoenix you name a couple of QBs who are pretty much unproven and are question marks. It can really be argued that the teams they're with are hardly teams you could succeed with. For every Brady Quinn though I will throw a Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford, Carson Pamler, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Sam Bradford, Phillip Rivers, Andrew Luck and so on and I know I can go on. Most I mention are top passers and top QBs in the NFL. There's a reason QBs like Colt McCoy and most of the gimmicky QBs in the NFL aren't top
QBs in the league. Hey how's RG3 doing btw?
Every single guy you mentioned with the exception of Brady and Brees was a Top 5 pick and for good reason while Murray even healthy would have been a stretch in the 2nd round. Huge difference there.
Christian Ponder ran a pro-style offense at Florida, how has he looked in the NFL thus far with similar knocks on him coming out of the draft. There have been a ton of QB's who ran pro style offenses in college who failed, didn't do very well at the NFL level. If you like I can keep naming them, there's no shortage of names out there. You seem to act as if a guy running a pro-style offense in college is an instant guarantee of success, which is far from the truth. Drew Brees was a gimmick QB at Purdue, he ran a variation of the run and shoot spread offense, he seems to have done fine in the NFL, no? Jay Cutler, Joe Flacco, all ran gimmick offenses in college and have done fine as NFL QB's. With offenses such as those in Philly and New England, you see NFL teams using more tenets of the college game and more "gimmicks." Many of the next generation QB's are "gimmick passers."
Like I said, it comes down to the overall traits of a guy, Murray has some nice traits, he also happens to be shorter than desirable, with a weaker arm than other smaller QB's such as Brees and Wilson. I see a guy who can be a quality game manager and backup in the NFL, nothing more. If I had to make a very direct comparison, I'd say a better Ty Detmer works nicely. A great guy to have as a backup, not a guy you want starting long-term though.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Nov 26, 2013 at 1:03 AM ]