Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
limited arm strength? I'm curious who you think has more arm strength than Murray. You posted about us taking Jordan Lynch and Lynch doesn't have half the arm strength Murray does.
Murray is playing with one of the weakest WR groups in the nation.
And he doesn't go through his progressions!?!? He is probably the best in college football when it comes to a pro-oriented offense and going through progressions.
I really don't get the knocks on Murray at all. He makes NFL throws.
-Look at 2:29. That is one hell of a throw and he put it exactly where he wanted to even though it was an incompletion. I hardly see any college QB making a throw like that. That is a 40 yard out pattern off a play action from the opposite hash mark
So many college QB stats are so overblown. You have QBs like Marriota throwing deep strikes but its on blown coverage generated from spread option or Brett Hundley jacking up his stats with 5 yard dump off passes. I'd LOVE to see an adjusted stats for throwing against coverage and taking off YAC. Murray would KILL it in that stat. Or you have Manziel who is pretty much the master of the broken/backyard football.
Compare that to Mettenberg
-On the first play. Almost identical to Murray's play above. Mettenberg throws the ball to where it can be contested and puts a LOT of air underneath it, but its Odell Beckham that makes the play. If Murray had Beckham....peoples thoughts on Murray would be much improved.
Now IMO, on those 2 throws, its Murray who demonstrates the stronger arm and better deep ball accuracy
Only QB in college doing more NFL throws IMO is Teddy Bridgewater.
Look, I'm just giving my own opinion on the guy and what others have said about him, his arm strength certainly is questionable, its the most common knock on him along with his size. He's certainly done well as a long term starter but as I said before, the Matt Barkley/Ponder comparisons that have been made are valid, if you go back through this site, look at the threads on Ponder, people were making the same comments about him, citing the same strengths and trying to minimalize some of the very same weaknesses at that time too.
I think in the right system, Murray could be a good pro quarterback, to me he seems to be more of the upper end game manager variety than anything else.