Moncrief has been the one guy I've been hyping since last offseason. He's gonna be a steal if he goes anywhere near where people have been projecting him.
Best vertical of any WR. 3rd- best broad jump. Tied for 2nd best 10-yard split.
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Feb 23, 2014 at 11:50 AM
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Feb 23, 2014 at 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by VPofCarnage:Moncrief has been the one guy I've been hyping since last offseason. He's gonna be a steal if he goes anywhere near where people have been projecting him.
Best vertical of any WR. 3rd- best broad jump. Tied for 2nd best 10-yard split.
You got that backwards - he was tied for the best at the broad jump and tied for 3rd best at the vertical among WR's. He's going to be projected in the second round now - he's obviously a steal based on pre-combine projections but projections change. He'll probably be available at 30 but won't be available at the Chief's pick. If he had bigger hands, I could see him going in the first, but there are a lot of good WR's.
Feb 23, 2014 at 12:59 PM
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Yep, I think Moncrief's stock shot up to what it should have been all along. I'm sure the scouts had him high but the "mock experts" who had him projected in the 3rd - 4th are starting to realize their mistake.
Feb 23, 2014 at 1:01 PM
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Originally posted by kronik:
Yep, I think Moncrief's stock shot up to what it should have been all along. I'm sure the scouts had him high but the "mock experts" who had him projected in the 3rd - 4th are starting to realize their mistake.
still see him as a 3rd round pick only because this draft class is so deep
Feb 23, 2014 at 1:02 PM
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I think he'll be there at 30 but if we want him in the 2nd we'll have to move up.
Feb 23, 2014 at 1:32 PM
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Originally posted by kronik:Yep, I think Moncrief's stock shot up to what it should have been all along. I'm sure the scouts had him high but the "mock experts" who had him projected in the 3rd - 4th are starting to realize their mistake.
Feb 23, 2014 at 1:52 PM
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FINALLY a WR that reminds me of T.O.
I've been looking for a bit now. Sure there have been many WRs that have come out these past few years who were 6-3ish 220lbs...who have run great at the combine. But on the field, for some reason they haven't reminded me of how T.O. could take over a game....catch a slant, take it to the house after breaking tackles.
yes Josh Gordon is one.
but if you watch these highlights, he looks like T.O. out there.
just pretend you are watching T.O.... dude runs and catches like him..lol.
I've been looking for a bit now. Sure there have been many WRs that have come out these past few years who were 6-3ish 220lbs...who have run great at the combine. But on the field, for some reason they haven't reminded me of how T.O. could take over a game....catch a slant, take it to the house after breaking tackles.
yes Josh Gordon is one.
but if you watch these highlights, he looks like T.O. out there.
just pretend you are watching T.O.... dude runs and catches like him..lol.
Feb 23, 2014 at 2:58 PM
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Originally posted by Afrikan:FINALLY a WR that reminds me of T.O.
I've been looking for a bit now. Sure there have been many WRs that have come out these past few years who were 6-3ish 220lbs...who have run great at the combine. But on the field, for some reason they haven't reminded me of how T.O. could take over a game....catch a slant, take it to the house after breaking tackles.
yes Josh Gordon is one.
but if you watch these highlights, he looks like T.O. out there.
just pretend you are watching T.O.... dude runs and catches like him..lol.
I hear you bro. I didn't see that comparison until you mentioned it but I fell for this guy a while back. Didn't know he was this fast but I think he can play in this league. You get a guy that can do what TO did you have a game changer! Don't know if he is as strong as TO though but he can play and shows some of his ability
Feb 23, 2014 at 3:54 PM
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He made Eric Reid look silly back in their 2012 game. Just a question: Is there a reason this guy IS NOT worthy of a late 1st round pick?
- 6'2", 220
- 4.40 forty (tied for 3rd best among WRs)
- 11' broad jump (tied for best among all WRs)
- 39.5 vertical (tied for 3rd best among all WRs)
Career number comparison to Odell Beckham:
Beckham: 40 games, 143 catches, 2340 yards, 16.4 YPC, 12 TD catches (4 before this season)
Moncrief: 38 games, 156 catches, 2371 yards, 15.2 YPC, 20 TDs (14 before this season)
Yes, Beckham can play special teams and does a ton of great things with the ball in his hands, but at the end of the day Moncrief is a bigger, faster player and was even more productive in college (particularly early on). So it's less of a comparison and more for making the case that (IMO) Moncrief deserves to be in that conversation.
Putting it another way: If Baalke thought AJJ deserved to be drafted in the late first, he sure as EFF has to see Moncrief being worthy of it too. By comparison, Moncrief makes AJ Jenkins look like...well, AJ Jenkins (I couldn't think of a worse WR).
- 6'2", 220
- 4.40 forty (tied for 3rd best among WRs)
- 11' broad jump (tied for best among all WRs)
- 39.5 vertical (tied for 3rd best among all WRs)
Career number comparison to Odell Beckham:
Beckham: 40 games, 143 catches, 2340 yards, 16.4 YPC, 12 TD catches (4 before this season)
Moncrief: 38 games, 156 catches, 2371 yards, 15.2 YPC, 20 TDs (14 before this season)
Yes, Beckham can play special teams and does a ton of great things with the ball in his hands, but at the end of the day Moncrief is a bigger, faster player and was even more productive in college (particularly early on). So it's less of a comparison and more for making the case that (IMO) Moncrief deserves to be in that conversation.
Putting it another way: If Baalke thought AJJ deserved to be drafted in the late first, he sure as EFF has to see Moncrief being worthy of it too. By comparison, Moncrief makes AJ Jenkins look like...well, AJ Jenkins (I couldn't think of a worse WR).
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on Feb 23, 2014 at 4:07 PM ]
Feb 23, 2014 at 4:13 PM
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I would move back say from #30 to around 38 or so and pick up a 2013 3rd and hopefully Moncrief would still be there.
Feb 23, 2014 at 4:15 PM
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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
I think he'll be there at 30 but if we want him in the 2nd we'll have to move up.
Not necessarily! Our 2 picks in the 2nd could come in real handy this year. And to think we only had to get rid of some corndogs.
I would love to see us stay a 30, move that 56th up to about 45 and hope that someone falls in our lap in the bottom of the 2nd, or move up with that pick as well.
What would we have to give up to move both of those 2nd RD picks to higher 2nd rounders???
Feb 23, 2014 at 4:37 PM
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Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
I would move back say from #30 to around 38 or so and pick up a 2013 3rd and hopefully Moncrief would still be there.
Possibly, but the deeper you look into the numbers, the stranger things you fine. Across the board with only one exception (hand size and the 3-cone drill...barely), Moncrief's combine numbers are even better than Sammy Watkins. That's not a judgment or opinion on my part, that's now a fact. Watkins is an athletic marvel, but Moncrief is bigger, has longer arms, runs faster and jumps higher and longer than Watkins.
So in terms of raw material to work with, he's every bit the athlete that Sammy Watkins is. To be clear, I'm not saying he's at Watkins' level as an all-around playmaker because that's definitely not true. Watkins is superior in that area and it's not close, plus their styles are different. But if you combine the athleticism of Watkins and even more size along with the production in the SEC that Moncrief has had, you at least have the potential to be a Michael Floyd-type (110 catches, 14.6 YPC and 7 TD catches in his first two years and only getting better).
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on Feb 23, 2014 at 4:38 PM ]
Feb 23, 2014 at 4:39 PM
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Been saying it for a while -- after Sammy Watkins, I don't see any receiver I'd put above Moncrief. No one's even close for me.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Feb 23, 2014 at 4:39 PM ]
Feb 23, 2014 at 4:40 PM
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Not surprised AT ALL Moncrief put up the numbers he did. From the game cut ups I've seen (courtesy of Youtube) he definitely looks that fast. I've never seen him get caught from behind and he easily can accelerate and break away from the defense. I like him a lot. I'm also a big fan of Bruce Ellington as well. Marqise Lee is still my first love among the WRs that we're in realistic range of drafting, I like those two a bunch as well.
Feb 23, 2014 at 4:42 PM
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The thing about Moncrief that really stood out to me is his blocking. He's a monster when he latches onto a DB on the perimeter. He was just physically dominating.
I think the Niners are going to have to chose one between Moncrief or Beckham, and then target another WR sleeper later in the 4th or 5th.
I think the Niners are going to have to chose one between Moncrief or Beckham, and then target another WR sleeper later in the 4th or 5th.
[ Edited by Butter on Feb 23, 2014 at 4:43 PM ]