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Robert Herron-WR-Wyoming

Kap doesnt excel with Receivers like this.. (see: K-Dub/T. Ginn)
Originally posted by JimHarbaugh:
Kap doesnt excel with Receivers like this.. (see: K-Dub/T. Ginn)

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Bewm. Quick and fast and they are struggling to find someone who can cover this guy thus far at the Senior Bowl practices. He looks exactly like what the doctor ordered for the 49ers in order to have a long ball/deep downfield threat with truly elite speed and quickness. You can't stop what you can't catch and Herron has consistently been described as looking slippery, too quick out of his breaks, too fast downfield for the defense to have much luck pressing him, he looks like a perfect guy for the slot who can force a safety to stay way back in case he gets loose. He's never going to be a #1 type of WR but as a complementary guy, like Hilton of the Colts, he can put up some big numbers and teams would always have to account for his speed.




WR Robert Herron, Wyoming - There's something about a guy that just gets open. All. The. Time. Wyoming slot WR Robert Herron did that all day long. Outside of Abbrederis, Herron was the most impressive receiver for the North squad, even though he measured in only at less than 5'9" and 187 pounds.


http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/46053/351/senior-bowl-notes-monday?pg=2










This Wyoming WR Robert Herron reminds us of a Steve Smith. Really wiry and seems to get separation at just the right time. Can't cover him.

— RosterWatch (@RosterWatch) January 20, 2014


Been telling you all about Robert Herron for months. Welcome aboard.

— Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) January 20, 2014

Wyoming receiver Robert Herron forced a hold, then made tough catch on Utah State CB Nevin Lawson + mismatched S Ahmad Dixon on double-move.

— Dion Caputi (@nfldraftupdate) January 20, 2014

No one can cover Robert Herron and when he gets held he still catches it

— Mike Loyko (@NEPD_Loyko) January 20, 2014

Third round with Tennessee's pick is the perfect spot. Pairing him with a Jordan Matthews or Allen Robinson and I'd almost be ok if we let Crabtree walk. Almost.
Patton gets thrown around like a rag doll by the Seahawks secondary. So lets draft even smaller players.....
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Patton gets thrown around like a rag doll by the Seahawks secondary. So lets draft even smaller players.....

Can't stop what you can't touch.









You beat bigger cornerbacks with speed and quickness, not trying to go toe to toe with them and giving them an ever bigger target to grab and hold on to. Right now the 49ers have jack s**t when it comes to true elite speed among their WR's, that has to be remedied.
Herron is not Hilton...

while there is certainly potential there, he flat out disappeared at times last season against less than solid defenses and less than solid competition.

Utah state 4/8
Fresno State 5/32
colorado state 2/11


Only cracked 100 against Idaho, Hawaii, and San Jose State, and his average was extremely padded in those games.

Also there isaint much there to add at PR/KR. Not really a special teams guy.

He had 9 TD's on the year, and 4 of those came against Hawaii...

He may look great at Practice, but im still less than sold on him come game time.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by JimHarbaugh:
Kap doesnt excel with Receivers like this.. (see: K-Dub/T. Ginn)


Do you not agree?
Originally posted by JimHarbaugh:
Do you not agree?

I thought the entire comment was absolutely ridiculous. Kaepernick has never really had a true deep threat at receiver to throw to. Ginn was barely used as a receiver by the 49ers, mostly on special teams and Kyle Williams, well, first of all he was never that fast and secondly, he was just, plain special.
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Herron is not Hilton...

while there is certainly potential there, he flat out disappeared at times last season against less than solid defenses and less than solid competition.

Utah state 4/8
Fresno State 5/32
colorado state 2/11


Only cracked 100 against Idaho, Hawaii, and San Jose State, and his average was extremely padded in those games.

Also there isaint much there to add at PR/KR. Not really a special teams guy.

He had 9 TD's on the year, and 4 of those came against Hawaii...

He may look great at Practice, but im still less than sold on him come game time.


You want to double up on that Haterade or what?
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
You want to double up on that Haterade or what?

You know how i feel about him. I really want to like him, i really do. But i just cant ignore what i saw from him in some games this year. Just not sold at this point.
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Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
You want to double up on that Haterade or what?

You know how i feel about him. I really want to like him, i really do. But i just cant ignore what i saw from him in some games this year. Just not sold at this point.

I agreed with you before but I'm starting to change my mind. Dave Christensen and his "brilliant" spread offense was too predictable. Any team with a little defense had an easy time shutting Wyoming down. The protection in his shotgun offense did not hold up and led to a lot of quarterback pressure. You would have seen Herron be much more dominant if Wyoming had a competent head coach.

Herron still has some weaknesses that concern me. He had a habit of dropping passes here in Laramie. He does a good job of catching with his hands so I'm not too worried about that.

He has basically never been a returner at Wyoming. The 49ers rarely use a fourth receiver and almost never use their fifth receiver. It would be a waste of Herron's talents to let him sit the bench. I think the team would be better served having a return specialist in one of these slots unless Harbaugh and Roman realize they could get some favorable match-ups by spreading people with 4 receivers and VD.

I wouldn't be surprised if Herron doesn't run a 4.3 forty yard dash. I believe he'll run fast, but not that fast. What you will see from him is a great 10-yard split and he'll be very impressive in agility drills. His short area quickness is elite and will be why he'll succeed as an NFL receiver.
Originally posted by DVDA:
I agreed with you before but I'm starting to change my mind. Dave Christensen and his "brilliant" spread offense was too predictable. Any team with a little defense had an easy time shutting Wyoming down. The protection in his shotgun offense did not hold up and led to a lot of quarterback pressure. You would have seen Herron be much more dominant if Wyoming had a competent head coach.

Herron still has some weaknesses that concern me. He had a habit of dropping passes here in Laramie. He does a good job of catching with his hands so I'm not too worried about that.

He has basically never been a returner at Wyoming. The 49ers rarely use a fourth receiver and almost never use their fifth receiver. It would be a waste of Herron's talents to let him sit the bench. I think the team would be better served having a return specialist in one of these slots unless Harbaugh and Roman realize they could get some favorable match-ups by spreading people with 4 receivers and VD.

I wouldn't be surprised if Herron doesn't run a 4.3 forty yard dash. I believe he'll run fast, but not that fast. What you will see from him is a great 10-yard split and he'll be very impressive in agility drills. His short area quickness is elite and will be why he'll succeed as an NFL receiver.


I could see Herron succeed as a #3 WR, just having him out on the field, the defense has to account for him, even if he only catches 1 out of every 5 passes thrown his way(his hands aren't that bad), defense's still have to account for him because if he gets behind them, with the cannon that Kaepernick has, that is trouble. It is a dimension that the 49ers offense has been missing for awhile, if you've got a guy that can really take it all the way to the house, defense's can lock in on the run as much as they've done in the past. If you have a major threat like Crabtree along with a guy like Herron plus VD, it becomes far more complicated to defend all of them and be able to keep enough guys up near the line of scrimmage to stuff the run.



I've never said he'll be a superstar and I do think he was kind of screwed over at Wyoming. I would happily take him with a 3rd round pick and utilize him to stretch the field vertically.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Jan 24, 2014 at 2:40 PM ]
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He doesn't have bad hands, I think his drops are due to focus. When he is focused, like this week, he is one hell of a receiver. I think he his ceiling is Steve Smith with a little less top end speed. His floor is a solid #3 or #4 for a team that passes the ball around. I don't know that Harbaugh and Roman would use him properly though.
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Originally posted by DVDA:
He doesn't have bad hands, I think his drops are due to focus. When he is focused, like this week, he is one hell of a receiver. I think he his ceiling is Steve Smith with a little less top end speed. His floor is a solid #3 or #4 for a team that passes the ball around. I don't know that Harbaugh and Roman would use him properly though.

Wouldn't they be equal in speed if not tilted in Herron's favor? Everybody, meaning nfl media and supposedly scouts, is talking about Herron running 4.3s and Smith ran a 4.41 at the 2001 combine.
[ Edited by sfout on Jan 25, 2014 at 8:28 PM ]
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This is a pretty good article about Herron.