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Baalke needs to get over himself

Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
WR wasn't an issue, we had Crabs healthy, not till May is when he hurt his leg. Or we probably would of drafted a WR higher.


That is exactly Baalke's issue. In this league you need to plan for injuries.

Do you honestly think Crab and Boldin, a 32-year old WR were going to be the future of the 49ers receiving corps for years to come ?!

Baalke never learnt his lesson, last year God already showed him what it would be like with 2 WRs down. In other words, you can't just wait till injuries happen and go crap I should have drafted a WR higher. You need to bring in enough high picks to develop them so in case of injuries happen these budding young stars can step up without a major drop-off in performance.

What Baalke needs to do is wake the hell up and recognize the importance of the WR position. Don't just draft 1 receiver when his hit rate is so embarrassingly low. Draft 2 or more WRs until the situation is under control. We had the same discussion when Mario and KW went down, then we had yet another discussion when Crab went down and now we are having the same discussion again cos the FAs he brought in can't step up.

This is not a kid's card game like "hey, look at me I have so many more cards than you, hehehe" nonsense !! Stockpiling draft picks in isolation is pointless unless you make full and proper use of them.

I see no reason to believe that Baalke thought that Crabs and Boldin would be our receiving future for years to come. But, with Manningham, Jenkins, Williams and others, Patton looked a reasonable solution for the year ahead allowing other needs also to be addressed. Losing two of your three best receivers and finding that last years first round is a bust is above and beyond.


That just goes to show Baalke is way short-sighted with his WR plans. He already knew Mario was down before the draft and obviously he was banking on Crab and Anquan for this season, but once again he failed to plan for further injuries. In any given season, to plan for 2 WR injuries is a fair a number, he never thought about what if those 2 happen to be one of our key receivers and as it happened Crab went down even before the start of the season. To cap that off, Jenkins turned out to be a bust and whose fault was that ? Patton as a 4th round pick is OK and we are still waiting to see what he can do while Mario will not be back until week 7 the earliest. Seriously, does that sound like a solid plan to you ?!

Why do you bash Baalke, but not the players or coaches? Stop acting like it's always the GMs fault. Cause it's not. No one knew Crabs would get hurt. So what Jenkins was a bust, but he will lay fine in KC now IMO. So we jumped the gun on that one too quick IMO. We wanted to move salary, not develop.

Mario we thought would make a recovery, so he didn't. We had chances to get other WRs. FAs maybe, but they got overpaid. Wallace isnt worth 60M, no one would trade a top WR for a low 1st.

We made right pick in Reid. Would never pay an overrated Goldson 40M+.

The dude bashes Harbaugh all the time.

Baalke needs to hire an oracle. He clearly needs help predicting the future.

If he had had the brains to get a good oracle, he would have known to draft a wide receiver to replace Crabtree and a nose tackle to replace Williams.

Its best to ignore any post Rascal makes.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
WR wasn't an issue, we had Crabs healthy, not till May is when he hurt his leg. Or we probably would of drafted a WR higher.


That is exactly Baalke's issue. In this league you need to plan for injuries.

Do you honestly think Crab and Boldin, a 32-year old WR were going to be the future of the 49ers receiving corps for years to come ?!

Baalke never learnt his lesson, last year God already showed him what it would be like with 2 WRs down. In other words, you can't just wait till injuries happen and go crap I should have drafted a WR higher. You need to bring in enough high picks to develop them so in case of injuries happen these budding young stars can step up without a major drop-off in performance.

What Baalke needs to do is wake the hell up and recognize the importance of the WR position. Don't just draft 1 receiver when his hit rate is so embarrassingly low. Draft 2 or more WRs until the situation is under control. We had the same discussion when Mario and KW went down, then we had yet another discussion when Crab went down and now we are having the same discussion again cos the FAs he brought in can't step up.

This is not a kid's card game like "hey, look at me I have so many more cards than you, hehehe" nonsense !! Stockpiling draft picks in isolation is pointless unless you make full and proper use of them.

I see no reason to believe that Baalke thought that Crabs and Boldin would be our receiving future for years to come. But, with Manningham, Jenkins, Williams and others, Patton looked a reasonable solution for the year ahead allowing other needs also to be addressed. Losing two of your three best receivers and finding that last years first round is a bust is above and beyond.


That just goes to show Baalke is way short-sighted with his WR plans. He already knew Mario was down before the draft and obviously he was banking on Crab and Anquan for this season, but once again he failed to plan for further injuries. In any given season, to plan for 2 WR injuries is a fair a number, he never thought about what if those 2 happen to be one of our key receivers and as it happened Crab went down even before the start of the season. To cap that off, Jenkins turned out to be a bust and whose fault was that ? Patton as a 4th round pick is OK and we are still waiting to see what he can do while Mario will not be back until week 7 the earliest. Seriously, does that sound like a solid plan to you ?!

Why do you bash Baalke, but not the players or coaches? Stop acting like it's always the GMs fault. Cause it's not. No one knew Crabs would get hurt. So what Jenkins was a bust, but he will lay fine in KC now IMO. So we jumped the gun on that one too quick IMO. We wanted to move salary, not develop.

Mario we thought would make a recovery, so he didn't. We had chances to get other WRs. FAs maybe, but they got overpaid. Wallace isnt worth 60M, no one would trade a top WR for a low 1st.

We made right pick in Reid. Would never pay an overrated Goldson 40M+.

The dude bashes Harbaugh all the time.

Baalke needs to hire an oracle. He clearly needs help predicting the future.

If he had had the brains to get a good oracle, he would have known to draft a wide receiver to replace Crabtree and a nose tackle to replace Williams.

Its best to ignore any post Rascal makes.


Truth always hurts.
Ballke is the best GM this team has had in the last 2 decades. I for one am thankful.
Last year's draft hurt but overall he's done a good job.
Originally posted by Louisiana49er:
2012 draft was a bust....2013 draft he selects four players with major injuries...

Baalke was absolutely brilliant in the 2013 draft.
Originally posted by WINiner:
Ballke is the best GM this team has had in the last 2 decades. I for one am thankful.

Me too...,
i felt we did a good job drafting based on need
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
i felt we did a good job drafting based on need

Me too. He did a great job in 2013, and it will be even better when some of these kids return from injury.

However, we were hurt badly by the A.J. Jenkins pick. We are in bad shape right now primarily because we don't have an impact player to line up with Boldin. That's the only thing I hold against Baalke.
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Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
I'll be HONEST, I HATED THIS TANK PICK. I LOVED the REID pick. I liked the Vance Mac pick. Loved the Q Patton pick. In 2012 I wanted DE/DT Kendall Reyes in the 1st instead of AJJ and if not Reyes then Alshon Jeffrey WR or Stephan Hill. I still don't know how the duck AJJ was even thought of??? I never ever ever even heard of him and I watch A LOT of College Football. Now injuries have played a HUGE role into why we blow right now. But as far as Baalke, He blow the 12' Draft and this "Tank" of a picks. Why not draft someone you can use THIS SEASON? Windows close all the time in the NFL which stands for NOT FOR LONG. You are supposed to try and WIN THE SUPER BOWL EVERY YEAR> That should be the Goal of every team, every GM. Where is Justin & Ray's Help? Where is Aldon's help? I like Lemon and hope he steps in and provides a pass rush, otherwise we will have a top 10 pick again next May. Baalke is way overrated.

reyes was far ahead of jenkins in the raw talent dept. i was hoping for reyes, also.
Hopefully we can rebound this year, but if not I think we will roar back big time next year. We will have a number of guys healthy (Crabs, Carridine, Lattimore to name a few) and if we have another solid draft with the 12 -13 picks we will have, I have no doubt that we will be stacked next year. I still have'nt given up on this year though, so lets hope our issues get worked out.
Originally posted by xcfan:
Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
I'll be HONEST, I HATED THIS TANK PICK. I LOVED the REID pick. I liked the Vance Mac pick. Loved the Q Patton pick. In 2012 I wanted DE/DT Kendall Reyes in the 1st instead of AJJ and if not Reyes then Alshon Jeffrey WR or Stephan Hill. I still don't know how the duck AJJ was even thought of??? I never ever ever even heard of him and I watch A LOT of College Football. Now injuries have played a HUGE role into why we blow right now. But as far as Baalke, He blow the 12' Draft and this "Tank" of a picks. Why not draft someone you can use THIS SEASON? Windows close all the time in the NFL which stands for NOT FOR LONG. You are supposed to try and WIN THE SUPER BOWL EVERY YEAR> That should be the Goal of every team, every GM. Where is Justin & Ray's Help? Where is Aldon's help? I like Lemon and hope he steps in and provides a pass rush, otherwise we will have a top 10 pick again next May. Baalke is way overrated.

reyes was far ahead of jenkins in the raw talent dept. i was hoping for reyes, also.


Same here.