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My Early 2014 NFL Draft crush

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With NT/DT most likely being a top need in the 2014 draft, my early draft crush is Beau Allen DT Wisconsin. I just love the motor on Allen, he never holds back attacking the QB. Seeing how Tomsula isn't very high on big blobs in the middle of the D-line, Allen is 325 pounds and can move pretty well for a big man, has both DT and NT experience, see him here:

8/10/13: Allen broke into the starting lineup as a junior and was a solid run-stuffer for the Badgers. He had 37 tackles with 7.5 tackles for a loss, 2.5 sacks and two passes defended. Allen chipped in 22 tackles, 5.5 tackles for a loss and four sacks in 2011. He may be best in the NFL as a nose tackle who is mainly used for run defense.
He played great against ASU fyi

Him and that MLB Borland were the entire Wisconsin D.
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Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
He played great against ASU fyi

Him and that MLB Borland were the entire Wisconsin D.

That's the replay I was watching, I think he had like 6 tackles in that game, and he had a fumble recover for a TD. I don't really know where hes projected to go, but this guy plays like a 1st round pick.
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WTF is up with the end of that game BTW, that was all officials fault.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
WTF is up with the end of that game BTW, that was all officials fault.


I think it was Wisconsin's QB's fault.

They had 18 seconds and could of spiked the ball. Instead they decided to run 2 plays, a kneel to center the ball and then spike it, they had no time outs.

QB kneeled but in real time you don't even see it, only the back judge saw it because he was down and up so fast. He puts the ball on the ground and a Wisconsin Lineman begins to lunge at ball. Our LB jumps on ball and whistle blows. We think we have a fumble recovery. Ref says no fumble recovery and our LB gets off the ball.

Wisconsin lines up but time is up.

Whole problem is avoided if #1 they don't try to center the ball with 18 seconds and no time out and #2 if QB kneels and hands ball to ref. You can't blame refs for the Wisconsin QB making it seem like he fumbled the ball and then left the ball on the ground.

What were Refs suppose to differently? The only thing Refs could have done was flagged ASU player for jumping on the ball, but IMO it wasn't a penalty.
[ Edited by SunDevilNiner79 on Sep 20, 2013 at 5:18 PM ]
Wow you would think this was a browns forum...already looking to the draft
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Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Wow you would think this was a browns forum...already looking to the draft

So talking draft prospects on a draft board, doesn't make sense?

And NT isn't a position of need as of right now?

Am I suppose to lock this whole board cause football season is still in play?
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Wow you would think this was a browns forum...already looking to the draft

So talking draft prospects on a draft board, doesn't make sense?

And NT isn't a position of need as of right now?

Am I suppose to lock this whole board cause football season is still in play?



Ive heard of this 7th grader in texas that has a rocket for an arm. He should be eligible for the draft about the time kaep is on the decline.

I was just saying that 2014 draft is a looooong way, and the only fans looking to next years draft are the dog pound. But to your point, NT should have been addressed with the plethora of picks in last years draft. John Jenkins in the third round looks real good now in hindsight. Why are the niners opposed to the 350 lb NTs that eat linemen for lunch?
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Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Wow you would think this was a browns forum...already looking to the draft

So talking draft prospects on a draft board, doesn't make sense?

And NT isn't a position of need as of right now?

Am I suppose to lock this whole board cause football season is still in play?



Ive heard of this 7th grader in texas that has a rocket for an arm. He should be eligible for the draft about the time kaep is on the decline.

I was just saying that 2014 draft is a looooong way, and the only fans looking to next years draft are the dog pound. But to your point, NT should have been addressed with the plethora of picks in last years draft. John Jenkins in the third round looks real good now in hindsight. Why are the niners opposed to the 350 lb NTs that eat linemen for lunch?

For one, I said its my early draft crush, what the hell is wrong with that? Its not like I'm doing a Mock Draft and doing player projections already. I'm just saying he'd make one hell of a NT. Tell what else am I suppose to discuss in a draft board, its silly when fans say "only losers are looking forward to the draft at this time". Umm if you've watched the draft and discussed it as much as we do for the last 7 or 8 years, you'd know its never too early to start talking prospects or draft crushes.

Why did the 9ers pass on a NT in the draft, well Ian Williams did earn the starting NT spot, it looked to be somewhat promising until he got injured. Either way, the 9ers have/had two players who could man the NT spot in Williams and Dorsey.

And Tomsula has stated before that he'd prefer a D-lineman that could move and not just be a blob in the middle. Hence none of the NT besides Divens (who's nowhere on the roster) is more than 330.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Wow you would think this was a browns forum...already looking to the draft

So talking draft prospects on a draft board, doesn't make sense?

And NT isn't a position of need as of right now?

Am I suppose to lock this whole board cause football season is still in play?



Ive heard of this 7th grader in texas that has a rocket for an arm. He should be eligible for the draft about the time kaep is on the decline.

I was just saying that 2014 draft is a looooong way, and the only fans looking to next years draft are the dog pound. But to your point, NT should have been addressed with the plethora of picks in last years draft. John Jenkins in the third round looks real good now in hindsight. Why are the niners opposed to the 350 lb NTs that eat linemen for lunch?

For one, I said its my early draft crush, what the hell is wrong with that? Its not like I'm doing a Mock Draft and doing player projections already. I'm just saying he'd make one hell of a NT. Tell what else am I suppose to discuss in a draft board, its silly when fans say "only losers are looking forward to the draft at this time". Umm if you've watched the draft and discussed it as much as we do for the last 7 or 8 years, you'd know its never too early to start talking prospects or draft crushes.

Why did the 9ers pass on a NT in the draft, well Ian Williams did earn the starting NT spot, it looked to be somewhat promising until he got injured. Either way, the 9ers have/had two players who could man the NT spot in Williams and Dorsey.

And Tomsula has stated before that he'd prefer a D-lineman that could move and not just be a blob in the middle. Hence none of the NT besides Divens (who's nowhere on the roster) is more than 330.

This, not sucking up or nothing, but who cares either way. I love doing this early. I have a website based on the NFL Draft. And I update each week. The draft is a ongoing process. I rather get a head start on the other guys, and not scramble in march for draft prospects to look at.

I have over 150 players I have scouted/viewed. I will be watching tomorrow/today.

On topic, I dont see a sleeper NT for me right now. I want to see Penn State's DT DaQuan Jones, he is 6'3, 333 lbs, runs a 5.18 40 time. Maybe a sleeper. Another is Washington's Danny Shelton, 6'1, 317 lbs, 5.22 40 Time.

Of course Mount McCullers, but he needs to lose weight. Right now my #5 DT(I haven't done by scheme rankings yet, way too early).

CB wise, Bennett Jackson, Notre Dame. 6'0, 185, and 4.45 40, and his opponent Darqueze Dennard, Mich State, 5'11, 188, 4.51 40. Dennard is more higher round, but Jackson could see his stock rise.

Another is Florida's Jaylen Watkins. 6'0, 188, 4.48 40.
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Wow you would think this was a browns forum...already looking to the draft

So talking draft prospects on a draft board, doesn't make sense?

And NT isn't a position of need as of right now?

Am I suppose to lock this whole board cause football season is still in play?



Ive heard of this 7th grader in texas that has a rocket for an arm. He should be eligible for the draft about the time kaep is on the decline.

I was just saying that 2014 draft is a looooong way, and the only fans looking to next years draft are the dog pound. But to your point, NT should have been addressed with the plethora of picks in last years draft. John Jenkins in the third round looks real good now in hindsight. Why are the niners opposed to the 350 lb NTs that eat linemen for lunch?

For one, I said its my early draft crush, what the hell is wrong with that? Its not like I'm doing a Mock Draft and doing player projections already. I'm just saying he'd make one hell of a NT. Tell what else am I suppose to discuss in a draft board, its silly when fans say "only losers are looking forward to the draft at this time". Umm if you've watched the draft and discussed it as much as we do for the last 7 or 8 years, you'd know its never too early to start talking prospects or draft crushes.

Why did the 9ers pass on a NT in the draft, well Ian Williams did earn the starting NT spot, it looked to be somewhat promising until he got injured. Either way, the 9ers have/had two players who could man the NT spot in Williams and Dorsey.

And Tomsula has stated before that he'd prefer a D-lineman that could move and not just be a blob in the middle. Hence none of the NT besides Divens (who's nowhere on the roster) is more than 330.

This, not sucking up or nothing, but who cares either way. I love doing this early. I have a website based on the NFL Draft. And I update each week. The draft is a ongoing process. I rather get a head start on the other guys, and not scramble in march for draft prospects to look at.

I have over 150 players I have scouted/viewed. I will be watching tomorrow/today.

On topic, I dont see a sleeper NT for me right now. I want to see Penn State's DT DaQuan Jones, he is 6'3, 333 lbs, runs a 5.18 40 time. Maybe a sleeper. Another is Washington's Danny Shelton, 6'1, 317 lbs, 5.22 40 Time.

Of course Mount McCullers, but he needs to lose weight. Right now my #5 DT(I haven't done by scheme rankings yet, way too early).

CB wise, Bennett Jackson, Notre Dame. 6'0, 185, and 4.45 40, and his opponent Darqueze Dennard, Mich State, 5'11, 188, 4.51 40. Dennard is more higher round, but Jackson could see his stock rise.

Another is Florida's Jaylen Watkins. 6'0, 188, 4.48 40.

Thanks for chiming in AB81 (love the name ). Studying prospects though make watching college football a lot more interesting to watching, and then in the end we all hope and wish that a certain player ends up in red and gold.

But getting back on topic, I seriously doubt and would be shocked as hell to see Daniel McCullers drafted by the 9ers. People say he can move for a big man, but can he handle the intense TC's in the NFL. Also Danny Shelton is another DT, I'm keeping an eye on, good run stopper in the mold of Ian Williams.


As for CB, I'm still locked in on Justin Gilbert, he reminds of Marcus Trufant, good ball skills and fluid. I think his stock is gonna soar once the Combine gets here. Shoot, he actually has NFL experience already, hes picked off Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin and Ryan Tannehill.

I think this upcoming draft is where the 9ers reload on defense.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Wow you would think this was a browns forum...already looking to the draft

So talking draft prospects on a draft board, doesn't make sense?

And NT isn't a position of need as of right now?

Am I suppose to lock this whole board cause football season is still in play?



Ive heard of this 7th grader in texas that has a rocket for an arm. He should be eligible for the draft about the time kaep is on the decline.

I was just saying that 2014 draft is a looooong way, and the only fans looking to next years draft are the dog pound. But to your point, NT should have been addressed with the plethora of picks in last years draft. John Jenkins in the third round looks real good now in hindsight. Why are the niners opposed to the 350 lb NTs that eat linemen for lunch?

For one, I said its my early draft crush, what the hell is wrong with that? Its not like I'm doing a Mock Draft and doing player projections already. I'm just saying he'd make one hell of a NT. Tell what else am I suppose to discuss in a draft board, its silly when fans say "only losers are looking forward to the draft at this time". Umm if you've watched the draft and discussed it as much as we do for the last 7 or 8 years, you'd know its never too early to start talking prospects or draft crushes.

Why did the 9ers pass on a NT in the draft, well Ian Williams did earn the starting NT spot, it looked to be somewhat promising until he got injured. Either way, the 9ers have/had two players who could man the NT spot in Williams and Dorsey.

And Tomsula has stated before that he'd prefer a D-lineman that could move and not just be a blob in the middle. Hence none of the NT besides Divens (who's nowhere on the roster) is more than 330.

This, not sucking up or nothing, but who cares either way. I love doing this early. I have a website based on the NFL Draft. And I update each week. The draft is a ongoing process. I rather get a head start on the other guys, and not scramble in march for draft prospects to look at.

I have over 150 players I have scouted/viewed. I will be watching tomorrow/today.

On topic, I dont see a sleeper NT for me right now. I want to see Penn State's DT DaQuan Jones, he is 6'3, 333 lbs, runs a 5.18 40 time. Maybe a sleeper. Another is Washington's Danny Shelton, 6'1, 317 lbs, 5.22 40 Time.

Of course Mount McCullers, but he needs to lose weight. Right now my #5 DT(I haven't done by scheme rankings yet, way too early).

CB wise, Bennett Jackson, Notre Dame. 6'0, 185, and 4.45 40, and his opponent Darqueze Dennard, Mich State, 5'11, 188, 4.51 40. Dennard is more higher round, but Jackson could see his stock rise.

Another is Florida's Jaylen Watkins. 6'0, 188, 4.48 40.

Thanks for chiming in AB81 (love the name ). Studying prospects though make watching college football a lot more interesting to watching, and then in the end we all hope and wish that a certain player ends up in red and gold.

But getting back on topic, I seriously doubt and would be shocked as hell to see Daniel McCullers drafted by the 9ers. People say he can move for a big man, but can he handle the intense TC's in the NFL. Also Danny Shelton is another DT, I'm keeping an eye on, good run stopper in the mold of Ian Williams.


As for CB, I'm still locked in on Justin Gilbert, he reminds of Marcus Trufant, good ball skills and fluid. I think his stock is gonna soar once the Combine gets here. Shoot, he actually has NFL experience already, hes picked off Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin and Ryan Tannehill.

I think this upcoming draft is where the 9ers reload on defense.

Agreed on McCullers. I wouldn't touch him. I like Gilbert a lot too. It makes it fun to watch when you have a website, or hoping to see a guy you want play well.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Wow you would think this was a browns forum...already looking to the draft

So talking draft prospects on a draft board, doesn't make sense?

And NT isn't a position of need as of right now?

Am I suppose to lock this whole board cause football season is still in play?



Ive heard of this 7th grader in texas that has a rocket for an arm. He should be eligible for the draft about the time kaep is on the decline.

I was just saying that 2014 draft is a looooong way, and the only fans looking to next years draft are the dog pound. But to your point, NT should have been addressed with the plethora of picks in last years draft. John Jenkins in the third round looks real good now in hindsight. Why are the niners opposed to the 350 lb NTs that eat linemen for lunch?

For one, I said its my early draft crush, what the hell is wrong with that? Its not like I'm doing a Mock Draft and doing player projections already. I'm just saying he'd make one hell of a NT. Tell what else am I suppose to discuss in a draft board, its silly when fans say "only losers are looking forward to the draft at this time". Umm if you've watched the draft and discussed it as much as we do for the last 7 or 8 years, you'd know its never too early to start talking prospects or draft crushes.

Why did the 9ers pass on a NT in the draft, well Ian Williams did earn the starting NT spot, it looked to be somewhat promising until he got injured. Either way, the 9ers have/had two players who could man the NT spot in Williams and Dorsey.

And Tomsula has stated before that he'd prefer a D-lineman that could move and not just be a blob in the middle. Hence none of the NT besides Divens (who's nowhere on the roster) is more than 330.

This, not sucking up or nothing, but who cares either way. I love doing this early. I have a website based on the NFL Draft. And I update each week. The draft is a ongoing process. I rather get a head start on the other guys, and not scramble in march for draft prospects to look at.

I have over 150 players I have scouted/viewed. I will be watching tomorrow/today.

On topic, I dont see a sleeper NT for me right now. I want to see Penn State's DT DaQuan Jones, he is 6'3, 333 lbs, runs a 5.18 40 time. Maybe a sleeper. Another is Washington's Danny Shelton, 6'1, 317 lbs, 5.22 40 Time.

Of course Mount McCullers, but he needs to lose weight. Right now my #5 DT(I haven't done by scheme rankings yet, way too early).

CB wise, Bennett Jackson, Notre Dame. 6'0, 185, and 4.45 40, and his opponent Darqueze Dennard, Mich State, 5'11, 188, 4.51 40. Dennard is more higher round, but Jackson could see his stock rise.

Another is Florida's Jaylen Watkins. 6'0, 188, 4.48 40.

Thanks for chiming in AB81 (love the name ). Studying prospects though make watching college football a lot more interesting to watching, and then in the end we all hope and wish that a certain player ends up in red and gold.

But getting back on topic, I seriously doubt and would be shocked as hell to see Daniel McCullers drafted by the 9ers. People say he can move for a big man, but can he handle the intense TC's in the NFL. Also Danny Shelton is another DT, I'm keeping an eye on, good run stopper in the mold of Ian Williams.


As for CB, I'm still locked in on Justin Gilbert, he reminds of Marcus Trufant, good ball skills and fluid. I think his stock is gonna soar once the Combine gets here. Shoot, he actually has NFL experience already, hes picked off Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin and Ryan Tannehill.

I think this upcoming draft is where the 9ers reload on defense.

Agreed on McCullers. I wouldn't touch him. I like Gilbert a lot too. It makes it fun to watch when you have a website, or hoping to see a guy you want play well.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Wow you would think this was a browns forum...already looking to the draft

So talking draft prospects on a draft board, doesn't make sense?

And NT isn't a position of need as of right now?

Am I suppose to lock this whole board cause football season is still in play?



Ive heard of this 7th grader in texas that has a rocket for an arm. He should be eligible for the draft about the time kaep is on the decline.

I was just saying that 2014 draft is a looooong way, and the only fans looking to next years draft are the dog pound. But to your point, NT should have been addressed with the plethora of picks in last years draft. John Jenkins in the third round looks real good now in hindsight. Why are the niners opposed to the 350 lb NTs that eat linemen for lunch?

For one, I said its my early draft crush, what the hell is wrong with that? Its not like I'm doing a Mock Draft and doing player projections already. I'm just saying he'd make one hell of a NT. Tell what else am I suppose to discuss in a draft board, its silly when fans say "only losers are looking forward to the draft at this time". Umm if you've watched the draft and discussed it as much as we do for the last 7 or 8 years, you'd know its never too early to start talking prospects or draft crushes.

Why did the 9ers pass on a NT in the draft, well Ian Williams did earn the starting NT spot, it looked to be somewhat promising until he got injured. Either way, the 9ers have/had two players who could man the NT spot in Williams and Dorsey.

And Tomsula has stated before that he'd prefer a D-lineman that could move and not just be a blob in the middle. Hence none of the NT besides Divens (who's nowhere on the roster) is more than 330.

This, not sucking up or nothing, but who cares either way. I love doing this early. I have a website based on the NFL Draft. And I update each week. The draft is a ongoing process. I rather get a head start on the other guys, and not scramble in march for draft prospects to look at.

I have over 150 players I have scouted/viewed. I will be watching tomorrow/today.

On topic, I dont see a sleeper NT for me right now. I want to see Penn State's DT DaQuan Jones, he is 6'3, 333 lbs, runs a 5.18 40 time. Maybe a sleeper. Another is Washington's Danny Shelton, 6'1, 317 lbs, 5.22 40 Time.

Of course Mount McCullers, but he needs to lose weight. Right now my #5 DT(I haven't done by scheme rankings yet, way too early).

CB wise, Bennett Jackson, Notre Dame. 6'0, 185, and 4.45 40, and his opponent Darqueze Dennard, Mich State, 5'11, 188, 4.51 40. Dennard is more higher round, but Jackson could see his stock rise.

Another is Florida's Jaylen Watkins. 6'0, 188, 4.48 40.

Thanks for chiming in AB81 (love the name ). Studying prospects though make watching college football a lot more interesting to watching, and then in the end we all hope and wish that a certain player ends up in red and gold.

But getting back on topic, I seriously doubt and would be shocked as hell to see Daniel McCullers drafted by the 9ers. People say he can move for a big man, but can he handle the intense TC's in the NFL. Also Danny Shelton is another DT, I'm keeping an eye on, good run stopper in the mold of Ian Williams.


As for CB, I'm still locked in on Justin Gilbert, he reminds of Marcus Trufant, good ball skills and fluid. I think his stock is gonna soar once the Combine gets here. Shoot, he actually has NFL experience already, hes picked off Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin and Ryan Tannehill.

I think this upcoming draft is where the 9ers reload on defense.

Agreed on McCullers. I wouldn't touch him. I like Gilbert a lot too. It makes it fun to watch when you have a website, or hoping to see a guy you want play well.

Personally the start of the college season is probably the 2nd most exciting time when considering the draft. Obviously the end of the season is the most exciting. I enjoy talking about prospects season long especially after games. Not very many people seem to be interested though.

Do you think NT will be a position of need when Williams comes back? I believe he and Dorsey are locked up for at least another season after this one. I'm not trying to argue. I'm just curious.

Personally I would like the next NT we draft to be more versatile the McCullers. I find McCullers to be more intriguing but I think the Dline would get the most quality out of a 4-3 NT. That seems to be what Tomsula prefers. The more mobile run stuffing DT. The versatility would be the ability to play in the nickel packages. Kolohe I can see why you like this kid so much. His motor looks like it could be alot of trouble for an interior line. I loved he just trucked through the center/guard before they even had time to react.

My draft crush is the entire Florida defense. Lol. The only game I've seen this year is Miami. It's too bad their offense is so ineffective because the defense is clockwork. 2 & long, 3 & long are intense. They probably have the best pass rush in the nation.

Dominique Easley is my draft crush. I think he would be a perfect fit for Fangios system. I'm not just saying that cause it sounds good either. His ability to get on the ball is incredible. One play in particular against Miami; Stephen Hill was under center. He went to hand the ball off to the RB and in perfect unison Easley was there to make the TFL. I believe his length and explosiveness will make him a good fit for a 3-4 DE. I know we may not need him, but I think it would be smart to pick up some pass rushing depth at the interior positions.
[ Edited by eonblue on Sep 21, 2013 at 4:12 AM ]
Hey Kolohe - excellent post - PLEASE keep them coming!

I love the "DRAFT BOARD" - there are "POSITIVE" contributors like Phoenix, OTC, Mad Dog. AB and others that keep people like me who never have enough time up-to-date on prospects who may be future Niners. Plus getting a heads up on certain players to watch in college games is a real plus.

To anyone who feels the Draft Board is a waste of time - What the F--K are you coming here for and posting. GET OUT and go some where else and add something positive instead of whining.