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Wide Receiver Class of 2014

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Day after day I've been analyzing these prospects and I think at this point, I'm pretty close to finalizing my board, pending Pro Days. At the moment, the players that I personally believe best fit our team when looking at their overall combination of football smarts, physical attributes, blocking, hands, route-running, and character (with consideration for elements our team currently lacks also), are the following:

1. Donte Moncrief, Mississippi, 6-2 226 4.40
2. Robert Herron, Wyoming, 5-9 193 4.48
3. Mike Evans, Texas A&M, 6-5 231 4.53
4. Allen Robinson, Penn Sate, 6-2 220 4.60
5. Brandin Cooks, Oregon State, 5-10 189 4.33
6. Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt, 6-3 212 4.46
7. Davante Adams, Fresno State, 6-1 212 4.56
8. Jarvis Landry, LSU, 5-11 206 4.77
9. Bruce Ellington, South Carolina, 5-9 197 4.45
10. Quincy Enunwa, Nebraska, 6-2 225 4.45

Now, of that list, who do I think we're most likely to actually draft? I think of those, the most likely would be Moncrief, Herron, Cooks, and Enunwa.

Nice list. I'm a little surprised you have Herron over Cooks. They're all great prospects in their own right so I can't complain. Looking forward to your final board. This draft year is gonna be fun
Originally posted by kronik:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Day after day I've been analyzing these prospects and I think at this point, I'm pretty close to finalizing my board, pending Pro Days. At the moment, the players that I personally believe best fit our team when looking at their overall combination of football smarts, physical attributes, blocking, hands, route-running, and character (with consideration for elements our team currently lacks also), are the following:

1. Donte Moncrief, Mississippi, 6-2 226 4.40
2. Robert Herron, Wyoming, 5-9 193 4.48
3. Mike Evans, Texas A&M, 6-5 231 4.53
4. Allen Robinson, Penn Sate, 6-2 220 4.60
5. Brandin Cooks, Oregon State, 5-10 189 4.33
6. Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt, 6-3 212 4.46
7. Davante Adams, Fresno State, 6-1 212 4.56
8. Jarvis Landry, LSU, 5-11 206 4.77
9. Bruce Ellington, South Carolina, 5-9 197 4.45
10. Quincy Enunwa, Nebraska, 6-2 225 4.45

Now, of that list, who do I think we're most likely to actually draft? I think of those, the most likely would be Moncrief, Herron, Cooks, and Enunwa.

Nice list. I'm a little surprised you have Herron over Cooks. They're all great prospects in their own right so I can't complain. Looking forward to your final board. This draft year is gonna be fun

The one thing that Herron consistently showed -- and he did it at the Senior Bowl too -- was he does not need help from scheme to beat anyone one on one. He made major strides each year in college which displays his clear ability to learn and improve. Herron was converted from RB to WR earlier in his college career so as good as he is now, he's still got a lot of potential to get far, far better at receiver, mainly with his route running. His ability to create separation off the snap in the beginning of his route is exceptional, but he will need to master the variety of routes that come with an NFL route tree and develop consistency there. These minimal and coachable issues and his level of competition are really the only thing keeping him from being a 1st rounder.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Day after day I've been analyzing these prospects and I think at this point, I'm pretty close to finalizing my board, pending Pro Days. At the moment, the players that I personally believe best fit our team when looking at their overall combination of football smarts, physical attributes, blocking, hands, route-running, and character (with consideration for elements our team currently lacks also), are the following:

1. Donte Moncrief, Mississippi, 6-2 226 4.40
2. Robert Herron, Wyoming, 5-9 193 4.48
3. Mike Evans, Texas A&M, 6-5 231 4.53
4. Allen Robinson, Penn Sate, 6-2 220 4.60
5. Brandin Cooks, Oregon State, 5-10 189 4.33
6. Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt, 6-3 212 4.46
7. Davante Adams, Fresno State, 6-1 212 4.56
8. Jarvis Landry, LSU, 5-11 206 4.77
9. Bruce Ellington, South Carolina, 5-9 197 4.45
10. Quincy Enunwa, Nebraska, 6-2 225 4.45

Now, of that list, who do I think we're most likely to actually draft? I think of those, the most likely would be Moncrief, Herron, Cooks, and Enunwa.

I am surprised you have Mathews below Robinson after the combine. I am assuming their game speed is different?
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Is Kelvin Benjamin going to fall to us? If he does, do we take him?
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Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout

Here is a great look at WR Kelvin Benjamin from @MattBowen41.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1974597-why-kelvin-benjamin-is-a-major-wildcard-in-2014-nfl-draft
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Day after day I've been analyzing these prospects and I think at this point, I'm pretty close to finalizing my board, pending Pro Days. At the moment, the players that I personally believe best fit our team when looking at their overall combination of football smarts, physical attributes, blocking, hands, route-running, and character (with consideration for elements our team currently lacks also), are the following:

1. Donte Moncrief, Mississippi, 6-2 226 4.40
2. Robert Herron, Wyoming, 5-9 193 4.48
3. Mike Evans, Texas A&M, 6-5 231 4.53
4. Allen Robinson, Penn Sate, 6-2 220 4.60
5. Brandin Cooks, Oregon State, 5-10 189 4.33
6. Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt, 6-3 212 4.46
7. Davante Adams, Fresno State, 6-1 212 4.56
8. Jarvis Landry, LSU, 5-11 206 4.77
9. Bruce Ellington, South Carolina, 5-9 197 4.45
10. Quincy Enunwa, Nebraska, 6-2 225 4.45

Now, of that list, who do I think we're most likely to actually draft? I think of those, the most likely would be Moncrief, Herron, Cooks, and Enunwa.

Considering we know the 49ers like long arms, this is how your list rates
1. Mike Evans, Texas A&M, 6-5 231 4.53 35 1/8
2. Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt, 6-3 212 4.46 33 1/4
3. Allen Robinson, Penn Sate, 6-2 220 4.60 32 5/8
4 Davante Adams, Fresno State, 6-1 212 4.56 32 5/8
5. Quincy Enunwa, Nebraska, 6-2 225 4.45 32 5/8
6. Donte Moncrief, Mississippi, 6-2 226 4.40 32 3/8
7. Jarvis Landry, LSU, 5-11 206 4.77 31 1/4
8. Bruce Ellington, South Carolina, 5-9 197 4.45 31
9. Brandin Cooks, Oregon State, 5-10 189 4.33 30 3/4
10. Robert Herron, Wyoming, 5-9 193 4.48 30 1/2
[ Edited by solidg2000 on Feb 28, 2014 at 10:24 AM ]
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Originally posted by solidg2000:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Day after day I've been analyzing these prospects and I think at this point, I'm pretty close to finalizing my board, pending Pro Days. At the moment, the players that I personally believe best fit our team when looking at their overall combination of football smarts, physical attributes, blocking, hands, route-running, and character (with consideration for elements our team currently lacks also), are the following:

1. Donte Moncrief, Mississippi, 6-2 226 4.40
2. Robert Herron, Wyoming, 5-9 193 4.48
3. Mike Evans, Texas A&M, 6-5 231 4.53
4. Allen Robinson, Penn Sate, 6-2 220 4.60
5. Brandin Cooks, Oregon State, 5-10 189 4.33
6. Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt, 6-3 212 4.46
7. Davante Adams, Fresno State, 6-1 212 4.56
8. Jarvis Landry, LSU, 5-11 206 4.77
9. Bruce Ellington, South Carolina, 5-9 197 4.45
10. Quincy Enunwa, Nebraska, 6-2 225 4.45

Now, of that list, who do I think we're most likely to actually draft? I think of those, the most likely would be Moncrief, Herron, Cooks, and Enunwa.

Considering we know the 49ers like long arms, this is how your list rates
1. Mike Evans, Texas A&M, 6-5 231 4.53 35 1/8
2. Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt, 6-3 212 4.46 33 1/4
3. Allen Robinson, Penn Sate, 6-2 220 4.60 32 5/8
4 Davante Adams, Fresno State, 6-1 212 4.56 32 5/8
5. Quincy Enunwa, Nebraska, 6-2 225 4.45 32 5/8
6. Donte Moncrief, Mississippi, 6-2 226 4.40 32 3/8
7. Jarvis Landry, LSU, 5-11 206 4.77 31 1/4
8. Bruce Ellington, South Carolina, 5-9 197 4.45 31
9. Brandin Cooks, Oregon State, 5-10 189 4.33 30 3/4
10. Robert Herron, Wyoming, 5-9 193 4.48 30 1/2

Assuming Evans is gone early the two top WRs based on arms, speed and overall size are Jordan Matthews an Donte Moncrief.
Originally posted by sfout:
Assuming Evans is gone early the two top WRs based on arms, speed and overall size are Jordan Matthews an Donte Moncrief.

Matthews - draft crush!
Moncreif - .06 faster the Matthews, slower 3 cone and shuttle
Adams - faster 3 cone and equal shuttle then moncreif / faster 3 cone then Matthews
Robinson - faster 3 cone and shuttle then moncreif / faster shuttle then Matthews
I'm still 50/50 on Marqise Lee after watching the combine I'm pretty sure he will be there in the late 20's could even fall to 30 if he is there at 30 should the Niners take him? he had some injuries but has decent size and speed not sure how interested the Niners are on him.
[ Edited by Raul98 on Feb 28, 2014 at 11:38 AM ]
"Baalke can't pick WRs".

I never understand why a guy makes a mistake, so many feel he won't learn from it. Baalke will not get AJ 2.0.

Politically, it would be smart not to get a WR in the first round (won't live it down if first rounder doesn't pan out). He would be smarter going one in #2 and one in #3. But I don't even think we have that great need at that spot. Jury still out on Patton and even Baldwin (was I the only excited fan when Baldwin caught that long bomb and tipped toed so sweet .... then flubbed as he hit the ground *INCOMPLETE* - couldn't wait to see them try him again ... and didn't)
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I watched one game of Moncrief this year and he didn't do anything spectacular but he also didn't do anything bad. He was quietly a very solid receiver. I think he'll be a 49er. Enunwa later in the draft is the other guy I think will be a 49er.
Originally posted by OldJoe:
"Baalke can't pick WRs".

I never understand why a guy makes a mistake, so many feel he won't learn from it. Baalke will not get AJ 2.0.

Politically, it would be smart not to get a WR in the first round (won't live it down if first rounder doesn't pan out). He would be smarter going one in #2 and one in #3. But I don't even think we have that great need at that spot. Jury still out on Patton and even Baldwin (was I the only excited fan when Baldwin caught that long bomb and tipped toed so sweet .... then flubbed as he hit the ground *INCOMPLETE* - couldn't wait to see them try him again ... and didn't)

I love Baldwins size and speed hes 6'4 and pretty fast he was a first round pick after all. I had high hopes for him but the Niners had him on the side lines un activated for most of the season i guess they have there reasons but they sure never told us why. Now that he re structured his contract i hope he gets a chance to compete for a spot during training camp and does a 180 from last year.
Originally posted by OldJoe:
"Baalke can't pick WRs".

I never understand why a guy makes a mistake, so many feel he won't learn from it. Baalke will not get AJ 2.0.

Politically, it would be smart not to get a WR in the first round (won't live it down if first rounder doesn't pan out). He would be smarter going one in #2 and one in #3. But I don't even think we have that great need at that spot. Jury still out on Patton and even Baldwin (was I the only excited fan when Baldwin caught that long bomb and tipped toed so sweet .... then flubbed as he hit the ground *INCOMPLETE* - couldn't wait to see them try him again ... and didn't)

There is some logic to this! But I doubt Baalke is going to refuse to pick a WR because he doesn't want to blow it again. He may take a more "known" guy to avoid being second guessed...naw...he will pick the guy he thinks best at the spot...no matter the position.

Totally disagree regarding the need for a WR. Baldwin may or may not be a player but the jury is leaning toward the door. Even if Boldin stays and Baldwin keeps a spot, the team still will need a fifth receiver. I would love to see them draft a WR high and one mid-round just to insure a decent cadre for training camp and in case of injury.
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Feb 28, 2014 at 6:56 PM ]
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Day after day I've been analyzing these prospects and I think at this point, I'm pretty close to finalizing my board, pending Pro Days. At the moment, the players that I personally believe best fit our team when looking at their overall combination of football smarts, physical attributes, blocking, hands, route-running, and character (with consideration for elements our team currently lacks also), are the following:

1. Donte Moncrief, Mississippi, 6-2 226 4.40
2. Robert Herron, Wyoming, 5-9 193 4.48
3. Mike Evans, Texas A&M, 6-5 231 4.53
4. Allen Robinson, Penn Sate, 6-2 220 4.60
5. Brandin Cooks, Oregon State, 5-10 189 4.33
6. Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt, 6-3 212 4.46
7. Davante Adams, Fresno State, 6-1 212 4.56
8. Jarvis Landry, LSU, 5-11 206 4.77
9. Bruce Ellington, South Carolina, 5-9 197 4.45
10. Quincy Enunwa, Nebraska, 6-2 225 4.45

Now, of that list, who do I think we're most likely to actually draft? I think of those, the most likely would be Moncrief, Herron, Cooks, and Enunwa.


1. Donte Moncrief, Mississippi, 6-2 226 4.40 -- Great player. Great blocker. High ceiling, but might take a year or two.
2. Robert Herron, Wyoming, 5-9 193 4.48 -- He will be good. He has instincts for the game and is explosive. Only 5'9 though.
3. Mike Evans, Texas A&M, 6-5 231 4.53 -- I see him as a bust. To me, his big plays are all the result of perfect ball placement from Johnny Football. He is a good athlete though.
4. Allen Robinson, Penn Sate, 6-2 220 4.60 -- Amazing open field runner. Good with contested balls. Will need scheme to get open though, which actually fits our offense pretty well.
5. Brandin Cooks, Oregon State, 5-10 189 4.33 -- Does everything well, except for height. Impact from day one. Can also return kicks. Perfect for us.
6. Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt, 6-3 212 4.46 -- Most intriguing WR of the draft. Invisible to refs. Constantly held, grabbed, pushed. Never gets a flag. This worries me a bit. Is it his style of play? Boom or bust player. Could be as good as Larry Fitzgerald.
7. Davante Adams, Fresno State, 6-1 212 4.56 -- Similar to Robinson, we will need to scheme him open most of the time.
8. Jarvis Landry, LSU, 5-11 206 4.77 -- An excellent player. Will be a much better pro then most of the speed / height guys.
9. Bruce Ellington, South Carolina, 5-9 197 4.45 -- Extremely explosive athlete. Will have to develop into a pro WR.
10. Quincy Enunwa, Nebraska, 6-2 225 4.45 -- Another good athlete.

I think Beckam is another guy to target. He has excellent body control and good hands, AND good speed. I don't know why he missed the list.

In the first round, I would be happy with Lee, Cooks, Moncrief, or Beckham. And it would be amazing to steal Landry in the second round. Matthews, Robinson, Herron in the mid rounds.
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combine 40

1 Cooks, Brandin 4.33
2 Brown, John 4.34
3 Moncrief, Donte 4.40
4 Richardson, Paul 4.40
5 Bryant, Martavis 4.42
6 Janis, Jeff 4.42
7 Beckham, Odell 4.43
8 Watkins, Sammy 4.43
9 Wilson, Albert 4.43
10 Saunders, Jalen 4.44
11 Ellington, Bruce 4.45
12 Enunwa, Quincy 4.45
13 Campanaro, Michael 4.46
14 Matthews, Jordan 4.46
15 Reese, Tevin 4.46
16 Washington, L'Damian 4.46
17 Herron, Robert 4.48
18 Jones, T.J. 4.48
19 Norwood, Kevin 4.48
20 Gallon, Jeremy 4.49
21 Abbrederis, Jared 4.50
22 Copeland, Damian 4.50
23 Hazel, Matt 4.50
24 Brown, Corey 4.51
25 Evans, Shaq 4.51
26 Huff, Josh 4.51
27 Fowler, Bennie 4.52
28 Lee, Marqise 4.52
29 Evans, Mike 4.53
30 Hurns, Allen 4.55
31 Street, Devin 4.55
32 Adams, Davante 4.56
33 Coleman, Brandon 4.56
34 Franklin, Austin 4.56
35 Burse, Isaiah 4.58
36 Lucas, Marcus 4.60
37 Robinson, Allan 4.60
38 Benjamin, Kelvin 4.61
39 Snead, Willie 4.62
40 Powell, Walt 4.63
41 Grant, Ryan 4.64
42 Hoffman, Cody 4.65
43 Stewart, Josh 4.69
44 Boyd, Chris 4.73
45 Landry, Jarvis 4.77
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