Originally posted by Karma:
Fair enough. I guess you can add character and confidence to that list.
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Originally posted by Karma:
Fair enough. I guess you can add character and confidence to that list.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Karma:
I think the bigger concern is how "polished" the receiver is and how many routes he can run with precision. Crabtree ran plenty of screens, but Texas Tech had him running every route in the tree. Crabtree was never a speed guy. He made his name by being able to gain separation with technique and intelligence. The fear is that guys running a huge number of screens have great athletic ability, but can't really on their route running ability to gain separation (See Ginn, Ted). Ultimately, Baalke will look for the receiver with these skill sets:
1. Blocking - If he can't or won't run block, he won't play. That was a big problem with Jenkins (among many). Does Marquise Lee's size make him a less effective blocker?
2. Hands - Kaepernick has one of the strongest arms in the league. He loves whipping it into a window and letting his receivers snatch at it. If he can't catch fastballs with his bare hands, we don't want him. Crabtree and Boldin both have big, strong hands and can consistently pull it down without their body. Who in this class has the best pure hands? Beckham? Robinson?
3. Intelligence - WR seems to be the position with the least amount of growth for our young players. Almost every other position on this team boasts a player who is out performing his perceived ceiling (Bruce Miller, Chris Culliver, Dan Skuta, etc.) Which leads me to believe we have a weakness in the WR coaching department. That means any player we draft needs to be self motivated and have a good grasp on his position.
No other traits in a WR are deal breakers. We are clamoring for a speed guy, like Torrey Smith, to open up defenses, but I don't think Baalke or Harbaugh put that much of a premium on elite speed. Right now I like Beckham, but I don't know the prospects well enough.
Hands? Blocking? Intelligence? Sounds like you really want Jarvis Landry.
Originally posted by Karma:
Do you think he grades higher than Beckham? I haven't watched enough LSU to know.
Originally posted by Karma:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by buck:
Work ethic is a deal breaker and it is not on your list.
This too.
Fair enough. I guess you can add character and confidence to that list.
Originally posted by PTulini:I've been driving the Allen Robinson bandwagon for a while now. He could fill Anquan Boldin's role in the near future. I think we could draft him in the late 1st-2nd round range.
I also like Clemson WR Martavis Bryant at some point in the draft. I think he has a good mix of size and speed.
Originally posted by PTulini:
I've been driving the Allen Robinson bandwagon for a while now. He could fill Anquan Boldin's role in the near future. I think we could draft him in the late 1st-2nd round range.
I also like Clemson WR Martavis Bryant at some point in the draft. I think he has a good mix of size and speed.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
There are a bunch of players I would be ecstatic if we drafted. Overall, this is the order of the players I like the most in this draft at WR (although this is not where I'd rank them in terms of where they would go in the draft).
1. Sammy Watkins (no chance)
2. Donte Moncrief
3. Kelvin Benjamin
4. Allen Robinson
5. Devante Adams
6. Jarvis Landry
7. Marqise Lee
8. Mike Evans
9. Brandin Cooks
10. Odell Beckham
Originally posted by LaMichaelJeff:Originally posted by OnTheClock:There are a bunch of players I would be ecstatic if we drafted. Overall, this is the order of the players I like the most in this draft at WR (although this is not where I'd rank them in terms of where they would go in the draft).
1. Sammy Watkins (no chance)
2. Donte Moncrief
3. Kelvin Benjamin
4. Allen Robinson
5. Devante Adams
6. Jarvis Landry
7. Marqise Lee
8. Mike Evans
9. Brandin Cooks
10. Odell Beckham
big fan of Benjamin?
Originally posted by OnTheClock:Beckham only 10th? Due to his inconsistent hands?
There are a bunch of players I would be ecstatic if we drafted. Overall, this is the order of the players I like the most in this draft at WR (although this is not where I'd rank them in terms of where they would go in the draft).
1. Sammy Watkins (no chance)
2. Donte Moncrief
3. Kelvin Benjamin
4. Allen Robinson
5. Devante Adams
6. Jarvis Landry
7. Marqise Lee
8. Mike Evans
9. Brandin Cooks
10. Odell Beckham
Originally posted by LaMichaelJeff:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
There are a bunch of players I would be ecstatic if we drafted. Overall, this is the order of the players I like the most in this draft at WR (although this is not where I'd rank them in terms of where they would go in the draft).
1. Sammy Watkins (no chance)
2. Donte Moncrief
3. Kelvin Benjamin
4. Allen Robinson
5. Devante Adams
6. Jarvis Landry
7. Marqise Lee
8. Mike Evans
9. Brandin Cooks
10. Odell Beckham
big fan of Benjamin?
Originally posted by OnTheClock:There are a bunch of players I would be ecstatic if we drafted. Overall, this is the order of the players I like the most in this draft at WR (although this is not where I'd rank them in terms of where they would go in the draft).
1. Sammy Watkins (no chance)
2. Donte Moncrief
3. Kelvin Benjamin
4. Allen Robinson
5. Devante Adams
6. Jarvis Landry
7. Marqise Lee
8. Mike Evans
9. Brandin Cooks
10. Odell Beckham
Originally posted by WRATHman44:Benjamin was the top-WR in his team whereas Bryant was lucky to have a Watkins so that he was covered softer at times, perhaps.
yeah, I'm curious why Benjamin is so high and no Bryant? Trust your research, just curious...