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Wide Receiver Class of 2014

  • buck
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There is another metric, the Wide Receiver Production Grade (WRPG), that calculates the accumulated career receiving yards and accumulated career touchdowns as percentages of the team's total receiving yards and total touchdowns during the prospect's playing career.

The WRPG is not easy to compile, so I am going to wait until after the upcoming season has finished before I do the work.

When I have it finished, sometime after the national championship game, I will post it.
Originally posted by buck:
Thanks. I will check it and make the needed correction.

Forgot to thank you for the list! It has given me a start in compiling for next pre-draft angst period! Can't wait...er...will have to wait longer this year. Hopefully, a Super Bowl win will make it less boring!
for those who havnt seen campanaro...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_hOkXOPXKc
[ Edited by deacfan on May 29, 2013 at 5:47 AM ]
There is no way in hell that there are 7 receivers faster than Sammy Watkins. I want to see someone match this kid's acceleration. I'll be surprised if he isn't the fastest receiver at the combine this year. FYI- He beat C.J. Spiller's 200 state record in high school in Florida.

Originally posted by TheBlueHell:
There is no way in hell that there are 7 receivers faster than Sammy Watkins. I want to see someone match this kid's acceleration. I'll be surprised if he isn't the fastest receiver at the combine this year. FYI- He beat C.J. Spiller's 200 state record in high school in Florida.


meh, at this point 40 times are a rough estimate. If people want to rely heavily on stats, measurements, 40 times, don't look at my lists as I don't weigh those significantly. My rankings pre-season and during the season are exclusively about what they show on game tape from what I've seen. Their workouts and exact measurements I'll consider more seriously at the end of the year

As far as why I put Sammy as a "slower" 40 time, obviosuly he has the tremendously quick feet and it hits his top speed extremely quick, but I don't think his top notch speed is on the same level as say a Tavon Austin. You'll notice Watkins strides are very short, it doesn't even look like he is taking full strides which I think hinders his ability to hit a higher top speed.

He is a great prospect, but his sophmore year of games raises some red flags and he has a lot to prove in his junior year.
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Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
meh, at this point 40 times are a rough estimate. If people want to rely heavily on stats, measurements, 40 times, don't look at my lists as I don't weigh those significantly. My rankings pre-season and during the season are exclusively about what they show on game tape from what I've seen. Their workouts and exact measurements I'll consider more seriously at the end of the year

I relay heavily on production stats and measurables, but I have no real choice. I can only watch about three college games a year; college foot ball just is not broadcast down here. My inability to watch the games leaves me with no choice but to look at the stats, and to pay attention to what people such as yourself have to say after watching the games. I look forward to looking at your lists and learning from them.
[ Edited by buck on May 28, 2013 at 7:08 PM ]
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Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
He is a great prospect, but his sophmore year of games raises some red flags and he has a lot to prove in his junior year.

Very true.
Brandon Coleman, Jordan Matthews, and Cody Hoffman are guys I'll be watching this season.
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Brandon Coleman, Jordan Matthews, and Cody Hoffman are guys I'll be watching this season.


Coleman - His physical talent is going to have GMs drool, even though there are a lot of areas for improvement to his game. Kind of like Vincent Jackson who came from no where to be a 2nd round pick. It looks very likely he is a 1st rounder.

Matthews - Not exceptionally fast, but a very smooth runner with sure hands. At this point, I don't think he is a player that will stretch the field in the NFL.

Hoffman - A guy I really want to jump on the bandwagon on (I was pumping him up before last year's season )
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Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Brandon Coleman, Jordan Matthews, and Cody Hoffman are guys I'll be watching this season.


Coleman - His physical talent is going to have GMs drool, even though there are a lot of areas for improvement to his game. Kind of like Vincent Jackson who came from no where to be a 2nd round pick. It looks very likely he is a 1st rounder.

Matthews - Not exceptionally fast, but a very smooth runner with sure hands. At this point, I don't think he is a player that will stretch the field in the NFL.

Hoffman - A guy I really want to jump on the bandwagon on (I was pumping him up before last year's season )

Coleman is clearly an intriguing prospect. I am hoping that he has a really good season.

Not sure why, but I like Rutgers. In my experience, people from New Jersey have always been pleasantly abrasive.

Vincent Jackson came out Northern Colorado--the other side of nowhere.
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Brandon Coleman, Jordan Matthews, and Cody Hoffman are guys I'll be watching this season.


Coleman - His physical talent is going to have GMs drool, even though there are a lot of areas for improvement to his game. Kind of like Vincent Jackson who came from no where to be a 2nd round pick. It looks very likely he is a 1st rounder.

Matthews - Not exceptionally fast, but a very smooth runner with sure hands. At this point, I don't think he is a player that will stretch the field in the NFL.

Hoffman - A guy I really want to jump on the bandwagon on (I was pumping him up before last year's season )


Mathews is good size and he has basketball skills. I think he's the kind of guy you can throw it up to and know if he doesn't come down with it, the other guy won't either. He'll have this year to prove it.
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There is a long time between now and the draft, but at this point these are my top receivers.

1. Marqise Lee USC
2. Sammy Watkins Clemson
3. Jordan Matthews Vanderbilt
4. Mike Evans Texas A&M
5. Cody Hoffman BYU
6. Austin Hill Arizona
7. Noel Grigsby San Jose St
8. Brandon Coleman Rutgers
9. Malcolm Mitchell Georgia
10. Rashad Greene Florida St

Three small school sleepers to watch are:

Torrence Allen WR West Texas A&M
Jeff Janis WR Saginaw Valley
Erik Lora WR 21 Eastern Illinois

So far the character issue wide receiver in this draft is:

Nick Harwell WR Miami (Ohio)
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When we look at wide receivers for the draft, we should recognize that the quality of their quarterbacks is going to have an impact on their production.

Three of the top prospects play on teams that lost their starting quarter back: Marqise Lee, Jordon Matthews, and Rashad Greene.


Marqise Lee lost Matt Barkley who completed 64.1% of his passes in 47 games.

Rashad Greene lost EJ Manuel who completed 66.9% of his passes in 43 games.

Jordan Matthews lost Jordon Rogers who completed 55.9% of passes in 25 games.

It seems entirely possible that the production of both Marqise Lee and Rashad Greene may drop this year.

It seems more probable that Jordon Matthews's production will not be as adversely affected by the loss of Rogers whose completion % was relatively low.
[ Edited by buck on Jun 2, 2013 at 12:11 PM ]
Originally posted by buck:
When we look at wide receivers for the draft, we should recognize that the quality of their quarterbacks is going to have an impact on their production.

Three of the top prospects play on teams that lost their starting quarter back: Marqise Lee, Jordon Matthews, and Rashad Greene.


Marqise Lee lost Matt Barkley who completed 64.1% of his passes in 47 games.

Rashad Greene lost EJ Manuel who completed 66.9% of his passes in 43 games.

Jordan Matthews lost Jordon Rogers who completed 55.9% of passes in 25 games.

It seems entirely possible that the production of both Marqise Lee and Rashad Greene may drop this year.

It seems more probable that Jordon Matthews's production will not be as adversely affected by the loss of Rogers whose completion % was relatively low.

It's entirely possible that Austin Hill's production will be adversely affected by his ACL injury.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
It's entirely possible that Austin Hill's production will be adversely affected by his ACL injury.

Being suspended or kicked off the team also will do the trick.


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