Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by WildBill:
It was not just the Bengals, but the Rams were waiting also, they ended up trading out. Of course you won't know that because no team will admit they wanted that guy unless in the future they get him and admit that. Also, Behind them was the Ravens, who could have jumped the niners. There is also the fact that few people, MadDog included, doesn't take into account the style and scheme that a team plays and whether that player is a fit, only the value as a player.
That Reid played in a big program and is smart, not to mention the measurables like 40.5 vertical, 4.49-4.51 40 and is 6-1 + and 219. (which is what everyone including the niners wanted to match against the bigger wr and te in the league.
Disagree with your assessment of their needs at free safety. With the addition of Harvin and Austin in the NFC West, which happened before the pick, the imperative to select a top notch cover corner increased dramatically. Reid is a bit stiff in the hips, and I believe will have a difficult time with some of these roadrunners.
I love Reid's measurables, but as we saw with Mays, those numbers can be deceiving. We will soon see
Well, the niners disagree with you and seem to agree with me, as for Reid stiffness I don't think so and comparing him with Mays, you forget that Baalke absolutely hated and did not want that pick and would not have made that pick if Singletary knew his place (and that was his ability to judge talent and who would make it to the NFL is nil). Baalke, now if Reid is like Mays, I can not see him not knowing, since he knew the first time and making the same mistake. Plus if you watched football like you said, listened to the after draft chatter that year, Mays was pissed at Carrol, Mays was asked to play in the box, and never really was asked to cover. When he did not play in the box he played way back as if playing prevent def., go watch the USC games again. Then when he had to play closer and tighter in the nfl he could not. Reid was not asked to play like that he was way better schooled. Reids dropoff in play can be attributed to less talented corners and not being able to just roam and sneak in, but cover the less talented cb's mistake compared to the corners he had the previous years.
As for need we did need a safety, who was going to play FS? Dahl? Please...as for cyp, now that guy was stiff. You get a guy like Ed Reed makes a difference. Plus if know football you should know he will not be asked to be (reid) the primary cover guy against slot receivers and guys like Harvin and Austin. If not doubling up on a wr, he will roam, or cover the te or help put a cap on the big speedy wr. The niners went after pass rushers because they know that the less time you give a QB the less time he can chose who to throw it too. Reid will be asked to be centerfielder to protect against any missed press, he has the range. Those a corner was not imperative.