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MadDog's 2013 NFL Draft Review

MadDog I enjoy your analysis, it's thought out and you give your take on each move. When your detractors take their shots go to the ropes, clinch, and wait till you get an opening.
  • buck
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
No doubt Harbaugh has an excellent system in place.

Baalke has an excellent system in place also, wouldn't you agree.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
sorry MadDog but I trust Baalke's judgement alot more than yours bro. Reid will be a stud and Cinn was a strong possibility of them taking him 3 picks later. But i can understand your reasoning.

Trust the Dog. Last time the Niners drafted a safety high, it was Taylor Mays, who I thought was a train wreck and wasted pick. Turns out I was right, and Morgan Burnett was the better choice. I outbaalkeed the Baalke.

Lol. Still grasping on to the Mays pick i see. It's more like you outSingletaried the Singletary. Actually i think you would have outBaalked the Singletary.
[ Edited by Hoovtrain on Apr 29, 2013 at 8:30 PM ]
Originally posted by susweel:
fire baalke and hire maddog
lol. A great cost saving move. Couple bags of kibble and a big box of milk bones and he's all yours.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
sorry MadDog but I trust Baalke's judgement alot more than yours bro. Reid will be a stud and Cinn was a strong possibility of them taking him 3 picks later. But i can understand your reasoning.

Trust the Dog. Last time the Niners drafted a safety high, it was Taylor Mays, who I thought was a train wreck and wasted pick. Turns out I was right, and Morgan Burnett was the better choice. I outbaalkeed the Baalke.

Lol. Still grasping on to the Mays pick i see. It's more like you outSingletaried the Singletary. Actually i think you would have outBaalked the Singletary.
Let's face it, Singletary would have had the Dog "fixed."

If MD was GM back then he'd have had to take Mays in the first round, just to keep Singletary happy.

Seriously, its easy to criticize Baalke for picking Mays in the 4th back then, but I'm guessing that HC Singletary, the guy who ran VD off the field, could be pretty demanding on draft day--an its no secret that he wanted Mays.

On the other hand, post Singletary, Baalke wasted little time getting rid of Mays. That said everything about who's draft pick he really was.
[ Edited by oldninerdude on Apr 29, 2013 at 9:21 PM ]
Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
sorry MadDog but I trust Baalke's judgement alot more than yours bro. Reid will be a stud and Cinn was a strong possibility of them taking him 3 picks later. But i can understand your reasoning.

Trust the Dog. Last time the Niners drafted a safety high, it was Taylor Mays, who I thought was a train wreck and wasted pick. Turns out I was right, and Morgan Burnett was the better choice. I outbaalkeed the Baalke.

Grade the 49ers 2010 Draft [3 years later]

Like they say, give it 3 years and then you can really grade a draft

1. Anthony Davis
1. Mike Iupati
2. Taylor Mays
3. Navorro Bowman
6. Anthony Dixon
6. Nate Byham
6. Kyle Williams
7. Phillip Adams

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/173002-grade-49ers-2010-draft-years-later/

This is the draft that we should be grading. Grading this year's draft is interesting, but not particularly useful.

It is, if I am not mistaken, Baalke's first draft and that means that it is still relevant.

Even with the catastrophic pick of Taylor Mays, it is hard, at least for me, to imagine a better draft; a A plus draft.

Whadya mean A+. There are only TWO All Pros and a near Pro Bowl OT in that draft.

Get outta here!!!













I don't think you can really grade a draft until 3 years later. Nothing ever goes quite as expected. If I was to grade now I give it an A, it looks solid and I am a fan. I will let you know in 2016!
Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
sorry MadDog but I trust Baalke's judgement alot more than yours bro. Reid will be a stud and Cinn was a strong possibility of them taking him 3 picks later. But i can understand your reasoning.

Trust the Dog. Last time the Niners drafted a safety high, it was Taylor Mays, who I thought was a train wreck and wasted pick. Turns out I was right, and Morgan Burnett was the better choice. I outbaalkeed the Baalke.

Grade the 49ers 2010 Draft [3 years later]

Like they say, give it 3 years and then you can really grade a draft

1. Anthony Davis
1. Mike Iupati
2. Taylor Mays
3. Navorro Bowman
6. Anthony Dixon
6. Nate Byham
6. Kyle Williams
7. Phillip Adams

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/173002-grade-49ers-2010-draft-years-later/

This is the draft that we should be grading. Grading this year's draft is interesting, but not particularly useful.

It is, if I am not mistaken, Baalke's first draft and that means that it is still relevant.

Even with the catastrophic pick of Taylor Mays, it is hard, at least for me, to imagine a better draft; a A plus draft.

I give this draft--from 2010 an A!! three star players Davis, iupait and Bowman. The rest were not too good--but three stars in one draft gets an A.
  • Amir
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
sorry MadDog but I trust Baalke's judgement alot more than yours bro. Reid will be a stud and Cinn was a strong possibility of them taking him 3 picks later. But i can understand your reasoning.

Trust the Dog. Last time the Niners drafted a safety high, it was Taylor Mays, who I thought was a train wreck and wasted pick. Turns out I was right, and Morgan Burnett was the better choice. I outbaalkeed the Baalke.

Thank god you outbaalkeeed the ballke when it came to Kaepernick. Man, you were right on the money with that one. I mean, who wants a franchise QB in the 2nd. We shoulda moved up to get Dalton.
Originally posted by Amir:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
sorry MadDog but I trust Baalke's judgement alot more than yours bro. Reid will be a stud and Cinn was a strong possibility of them taking him 3 picks later. But i can understand your reasoning.

Trust the Dog. Last time the Niners drafted a safety high, it was Taylor Mays, who I thought was a train wreck and wasted pick. Turns out I was right, and Morgan Burnett was the better choice. I outbaalkeed the Baalke.

Thank god you outbaalkeeed the ballke when it came to Kaepernick. Man, you were right on the money with that one. I mean, who wants a franchise QB in the 2nd. We shoulda moved up to get Dalton.

Who was it again that wanted Adam Cariker instead of Patrick Willis???
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Amir:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
sorry MadDog but I trust Baalke's judgement alot more than yours bro. Reid will be a stud and Cinn was a strong possibility of them taking him 3 picks later. But i can understand your reasoning.

Trust the Dog. Last time the Niners drafted a safety high, it was Taylor Mays, who I thought was a train wreck and wasted pick. Turns out I was right, and Morgan Burnett was the better choice. I outbaalkeed the Baalke.

Thank god you outbaalkeeed the ballke when it came to Kaepernick. Man, you were right on the money with that one. I mean, who wants a franchise QB in the 2nd. We shoulda moved up to get Dalton.

Who was it again that wanted Adam Cariker instead of Patrick Willis???

MadPete49er
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by WildBill:
It was not just the Bengals, but the Rams were waiting also, they ended up trading out. Of course you won't know that because no team will admit they wanted that guy unless in the future they get him and admit that. Also, Behind them was the Ravens, who could have jumped the niners. There is also the fact that few people, MadDog included, doesn't take into account the style and scheme that a team plays and whether that player is a fit, only the value as a player.

That Reid played in a big program and is smart, not to mention the measurables like 40.5 vertical, 4.49-4.51 40 and is 6-1 + and 219. (which is what everyone including the niners wanted to match against the bigger wr and te in the league.

Disagree with your assessment of their needs at free safety. With the addition of Harvin and Austin in the NFC West, which happened before the pick, the imperative to select a top notch cover corner increased dramatically. Reid is a bit stiff in the hips, and I believe will have a difficult time with some of these roadrunners.

I love Reid's measurables, but as we saw with Mays, those numbers can be deceiving. We will soon see

You may be right on this point, but your position may be related to a problem that doesn't exist. Are we actually convinced yet that the problem last season was the secondary? The way the 49ers drafted indicates to me they believe the issue was with the pass rush.
[ Edited by bzborow1 on Apr 29, 2013 at 11:00 PM ]
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Here is another grade on our draft; the 2013 draft.

Overview: The rich got richer. The 49ers entered Thursday with an NFL-most 13 picks. GM Trent Baalke turned them into very arguably the most impressive haul in the league, along the way picking up a 2014 third-rounder in Friday's trade with the Titans.

Only Reid and McDonald may be definite first-year contributors, but that's far more a testament to Baalke's roster building than his individual selections.

Carradine is a to-the-whistle edge rusher who along with Lattimore could be "redshirted" as a rookie due to knee woes, before emerging as plus 2014 starters.

Patton is a silky smooth route runner with ball skills and insurance on contract-year No. 1 wideout Michael Crabtree.

Lemonier might have been a first-rounder had he not played on such a bad Auburn team.

San Francisco is filthy rich with pass rush. Baalke is constructing a dynasty.

Grade: A

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/43159/174/draft-2013-nfc-draft-grades?pg=2
Absolutely, B- is the very best I can give them.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
You'd have to throw in the 74th overall as well, since that was the compensation for moving up from 31 to 18. My grade, probably a B, since most of these players are still pretty overvalued at their selection.
you had carradine, patton and lattimore as good picks, which leaves reid, mcdonald and lemonier as reaches. since when is half of something most of something? you are really a genius in constructing strawmen supporting your position.
[ Edited by zugschef on Apr 30, 2013 at 4:12 AM ]