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Apr 27, 2013 at 6:33 PM
- jacklegniner
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Initially I would say A. We will see how they turn out. My buddy is a Dolphins fan and he said we hit it big and wishes we could swap drafts...
Apr 27, 2013 at 6:39 PM
- BrianGO
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Eric Reid S -- Nobody likes giving up a high 3rd in a safety heavy draft. But we didn't want those other safeties, we wanted this guy, we think he has the intangibles. The price we paid for the trade up is about as good as it gets. B
Cornellius Carradine DE -- IMO, an even bigger need than safety. Assuming that the health checks out, this is our best pick. Not only did we need an immediate rotation on the line, not only did we need depth, but we needed someone to step in as a top notch starter a few years from now. A+
Vance McDonald TE -- Not just a replacement for Walker. Not just a backup for Davis. He will be an integral part of the offense IMMEDIATELY. He has uncanny size and athletic ability, which gives him a very high ceiling. How many 267 lb players play running back on one play and then line up at WR on the next? BTW, that 267lbs has very little body fat. Unreal. We are going to have to rewrite some of the playbook just because of him. A-
Corey Lemonier DE -- I don't understand why he fell this far. This guy has everything you could want from a young 3-4 OLB. He is very explosive. We BADLY needed depth at OLB. Not only do we have that, but we have a guy who can step into a rotation and be a dangerous pass rusher from day one. A+
Quinton Patton WR -- A great WR prospect. A player who's only flaw is not running with elite speed in a straight line in his underwear. A
Marcus Lattimore RB -- Remember Frank Gore's knee's? If the knee can heal in a year or so, this pick is pure perfection. A+
Quinton Dial DE -- Massive human being. Big enough and long enough to play anywhere on our line. B
Nick Moody OLB -- Special teams. Maybe he can develop into a backup linebacker? C
B.J. Daniels QB -- He's a quarterback, with the stamp of approval of Harbaugh. Not a bad idea. A Russel Wilson type player? B
Carter Bykowski OT -- Would be great if we could steal a T right here. He gets a high grade, because we need another tackle on this team. A
Marcus Cooper CB -- A very impressive athlete. Special teams? CB project? This is what you want from a late round pick. B
This is one of those rare drafts, where most of it looks like dynamite right away, from the casual observer.
Cornellius Carradine DE -- IMO, an even bigger need than safety. Assuming that the health checks out, this is our best pick. Not only did we need an immediate rotation on the line, not only did we need depth, but we needed someone to step in as a top notch starter a few years from now. A+
Vance McDonald TE -- Not just a replacement for Walker. Not just a backup for Davis. He will be an integral part of the offense IMMEDIATELY. He has uncanny size and athletic ability, which gives him a very high ceiling. How many 267 lb players play running back on one play and then line up at WR on the next? BTW, that 267lbs has very little body fat. Unreal. We are going to have to rewrite some of the playbook just because of him. A-
Corey Lemonier DE -- I don't understand why he fell this far. This guy has everything you could want from a young 3-4 OLB. He is very explosive. We BADLY needed depth at OLB. Not only do we have that, but we have a guy who can step into a rotation and be a dangerous pass rusher from day one. A+
Quinton Patton WR -- A great WR prospect. A player who's only flaw is not running with elite speed in a straight line in his underwear. A
Marcus Lattimore RB -- Remember Frank Gore's knee's? If the knee can heal in a year or so, this pick is pure perfection. A+
Quinton Dial DE -- Massive human being. Big enough and long enough to play anywhere on our line. B
Nick Moody OLB -- Special teams. Maybe he can develop into a backup linebacker? C
B.J. Daniels QB -- He's a quarterback, with the stamp of approval of Harbaugh. Not a bad idea. A Russel Wilson type player? B
Carter Bykowski OT -- Would be great if we could steal a T right here. He gets a high grade, because we need another tackle on this team. A
Marcus Cooper CB -- A very impressive athlete. Special teams? CB project? This is what you want from a late round pick. B
This is one of those rare drafts, where most of it looks like dynamite right away, from the casual observer.
Apr 27, 2013 at 7:12 PM
- stonecold590
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Soilid A. Filled the holes, added some depth and competition. Baalke had a great draft.
Apr 27, 2013 at 7:43 PM
- blm7754
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A-
What I like:
WE GOT TANK CARRADINE! We got a top safety. We got a top TE. We got a top WR. We improved our pass rush and prepared for the future on offense.
What I dislike:
We had to give up a 3rd rounder to get our safety. Baalke somewhat redeemed himself by recouping this loss with another 3rd rounder in 2014. By not having that pick, we weren't able to address the following position. CB. We needed a slot CB to match up against Percy Harvin and Tavon Austin. We didn't get it.
What I like:
WE GOT TANK CARRADINE! We got a top safety. We got a top TE. We got a top WR. We improved our pass rush and prepared for the future on offense.
What I dislike:
We had to give up a 3rd rounder to get our safety. Baalke somewhat redeemed himself by recouping this loss with another 3rd rounder in 2014. By not having that pick, we weren't able to address the following position. CB. We needed a slot CB to match up against Percy Harvin and Tavon Austin. We didn't get it.
Apr 27, 2013 at 8:08 PM
- RishikeshA
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Call back in 3 years.
Apr 27, 2013 at 8:12 PM
- tank
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baalke hit his spots pretty damn well imo. reid will be a starter at safety* for a long time, we added exciting, high upside pass rushers which were needed, and i'm not being a deluded homer when i say this, we could have the best running back and wide receiver of the class. patton is going to be a safe-as-houses, high volume receiver. Lattimore (and Carradine) will be hampered early by knee injuries, but knee injuries aren't the death knell to a career they once were. you take the lick, go to a specialist surgeon, rehab for a year or less and pick up where you left off (that may sound optimistic, but i believe it). mcdonald fills a need as a rz presence and versatile move piece. if his catching improves, watch the f out. the rest of the drafted players look solid without knowing too much about them.
*to be slightly critical, i would have liked a true centre fielder, but i don't think there was such a sure thing in the entire draft. reid may be better suited at ss, but he'll start at some position. i can't complain about a safe 1st round pick. the glaring need must have kept baalke awake all week prior to the draft. i would also have liked a space-eating behemoth nose, but i've been thinking for a while that having willis and bow in the middle allows us to have a tweener, hybrid point of attack that is original to us only. baalke and the coaches could be quite literally changing defensive line concepts. or something like that, lol.
anyway, i give the draft an a. the potential is huge, and i believe we'll be looking back to this year as something special. that's not to say we'll never have a better draft. this is the new-normal! i could not trust trent baalke and jim harbaugh more.
*to be slightly critical, i would have liked a true centre fielder, but i don't think there was such a sure thing in the entire draft. reid may be better suited at ss, but he'll start at some position. i can't complain about a safe 1st round pick. the glaring need must have kept baalke awake all week prior to the draft. i would also have liked a space-eating behemoth nose, but i've been thinking for a while that having willis and bow in the middle allows us to have a tweener, hybrid point of attack that is original to us only. baalke and the coaches could be quite literally changing defensive line concepts. or something like that, lol.
anyway, i give the draft an a. the potential is huge, and i believe we'll be looking back to this year as something special. that's not to say we'll never have a better draft. this is the new-normal! i could not trust trent baalke and jim harbaugh more.
Apr 27, 2013 at 8:12 PM
- ChaunceyGardner
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Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
18: Eric Reid, S (31+74) ------------------------------------- B
40: Tank Carradine, DE (34 for 40+216+future 3) ----- A
55: Vance McDonald, TE (61+173 for 55) ---------------- C
88: Corey Lemonier, OLB (93+216) ---------------------- A
128: Quinton Patton, WR ----------------------------------- A
131: Marcus Lattimore, RB --------------------------------- A
157: Quinton Dial, DL --------------------------------------- D
180: Nick Moody, ILB/STer --------------------------------- D
237: BJ Danies, QB ------------------------------------------ F
246: Carter Bykowski, OT ---------------------------------- D
252: Marcus Cooper, CB ------------------------------------ C
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Overall, we made a lot of quality picks early on... so while the slop picks after Lattimore disappoints? Meh... who cares? We loaded up with good picks where it counts.
Baalke is like some dude at a bar, early on he hits on totally hot chicks then by the end of the night its like what the f**k are you doing hitting on that?
Apr 27, 2013 at 8:14 PM
- AllTimeGreat
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Didn't really like our last 5 picks but.....it's the 5th-7th rounds and what the hell do I know? Our first 4 rounds were lovely!
Apr 27, 2013 at 8:18 PM
- 5timechamps
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A+
Apr 27, 2013 at 8:22 PM
- LaMattsBlue
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Apr 27, 2013 at 8:23 PM
- nj9er
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Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:18: Eric Reid, S (31+74) ------------------------------------- B
40: Tank Carradine, DE (34 for 40+216+future 3) ----- A
55: Vance McDonald, TE (61+173 for 55) ---------------- C
88: Corey Lemonier, OLB (93+216) ---------------------- A
128: Quinton Patton, WR ----------------------------------- A
131: Marcus Lattimore, RB --------------------------------- A
157: Quinton Dial, DL --------------------------------------- D
180: Nick Moody, ILB/STer --------------------------------- D
237: BJ Danies, QB ------------------------------------------ F
246: Carter Bykowski, OT ---------------------------------- D
252: Marcus Cooper, CB ------------------------------------ C
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Overall, we made a lot of quality picks early on... so while the slop picks after Lattimore disappoints? Meh... who cares? We loaded up with good picks where it counts.
Left of 6th round Anquan Boldin
Apr 27, 2013 at 8:41 PM
- ChipDouglas510
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Apr 27, 2013 at 8:46 PM
- SFrush
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Loved this draft. Added a lot of talent defensively and got great value with Lattimore and Patton.A
Apr 27, 2013 at 8:52 PM
- dtg_9er
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An A+ with three possible first round talents, solid players at positions of need. as well as the number of picks and next years' pick.
Apr 27, 2013 at 8:56 PM
- nw9erfan
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Originally posted by DrGonzo00:This is a really good post. You make some excellent points.
I think Moody will be a special teams guy who could really shine early on and wait until he gets in on defensive plays. Guy was a safety who transitioned late to LB...means he's probably got some good open field skills/speed and likes hitting. Maybe he drops some weight and goes back to safety?
I think, given Kap's skill-set, we may want more offensive options and pass catchers, which is where a guy like Vance McDonald makes sense. If Kap is scrambling and and making plays on the run, having a TE who played some wideout can be huge.
So often, zoners have a knee-jerk reaction to a pick without really trying to understand why the guy was chosen. Believe me, the Niners have a plan for every draft pick they make. This is a once a year event upon which the future of a franchise is determined. In other words, this is serious stuff for these guys. They don't just make picks haphazardly.
Personally, I love the McDonald pick and even the Dial pick. Both of these guys are good athletes and going to provide good depth at key positions. McDonald may even play a lot in his rookie season given his versatility.
Overall, I sense a pattern here when it comes to a typical Baalke pick...
1) good overall athleticism
2) has some speed
3) has long arms
4) loves the game of football
5) has a strong work ethic
Look back on all of his picks and I think you will find that this is true more often than not.
Oh BTW, I'd give this draft a solid A overall. Filled a lot of needs with excellent talent and great value in many cases.
Cheers!
[ Edited by nw9erfan on Apr 27, 2013 at 9:18 PM ]