Originally posted by greywolf447:
It seems that everyone from their dogs to supposed draft experts is presuming that we are drafting DL or Safety with the first pick. Given the past few drafts the one thing the Niners have not been is predictable. Given this I started to think about what we did in free agency. The key isn't who we got in FA, but who we didn't get.
Exhibit A: Percy Harvin. As I understand it we offered the Vikings our 1st rd pick for him but Seattle's pick was higher than ours.
No where has it been stated that the niners offered a first round pick. BTW-Seattle gave up more than a first round pick. The niners were only inquiring. They could never afford Harvin, if they gave up what the vikings wanted and couldn't secure a new contract extension the niners would blow a first round and possibly a 3rd and 4th round which is what would be needed to beat Seattle's offer. The niners were looking for a wr only because Kyle and Manningham's recoveries are unknown. They were looking for a wr and they got one. So they went out and got Boldin. Besides, Percy has a medical history of being injury or hurt easily both major and minor, not to mention very bad migranes that at times affects his play.
Exhibit B: Joshua Cribs. We went after him as well and did't get him.
Josh Cribs, is a different issue he is a wr yes, but not all that great a wr, he is like a replacement for Ginn, but with better receiving abilities that can return punts.
To all those draft pundits that think we need to get a Safety or DL in the 1st round. Here is some history for you. The highest DL we drafted on our team is a 3rd rounder. Thats Ray McDonald. As for Safety Dashon Goldson was a 4th rounder.
If you are going to use history, you cannot go that far back! Why? Because technically, Ballke only goes back three years, while as a whole, JH and Ballke only go back 2 years. If you want to use history, The niners have always drafted need first if the talent is there. Going back three years when Baalke was only an interim manager on a trial basis, We needed linemen so that singletary could implement the ground and pound, so that is what Baalke did. We got two linemen. Who knows what Baalke would have done if Singletary shut his pie hole and realize when it comes to scouting and knowing talent he is retard (the man thought Willis would never amount to being a superstar LB), and let Baalke do his job with the 2nd round pick. We needed a rush LB and QB and he got both. We needed a wr and got one. Not just one people wanted. LMJ wasn't a need-the reason we just went BPA and most explosive, was because the niners felt they were in a good position following a near loss to the eventual SB champion Giants. They were drafting someone to replace Ginn. Which was a secondary need. In all three cases they addressed the greatest needs first. Baalke is unpredictable yes, only because of who he rates high on the niners draft board compared to what everyone else says.
Another reason I think we draft Tavon or Cordarrelle Patterson is this. This draft is deep at both S and DL. Our scout team is pretty darn good at finding dimonds in the rough. Players with Tavon's and Cordarrelle's skill set are very hard to find. I might be wrong, but I think my logic makes sense. We have the fire power to move up to get a player we want. WHY NOT! GO NINERS!!!!
Yes the draft is deep in S and DL, but at pick number 31 and 34, it all depends on who is availble, If the Safety talent or DL talent is better, they would go that way, if wr then so be it. However, just because the talent is deeper, doesn't mean you put it off if on the big board they (wr that is available) are lessor in value just to get a wr.
Now I do understand that the niners are interested, but I don't believe they are going to motguage the future on Tavon, if he comes near the 31st pick they may move up to draft him, I think the niners would have move to before the rams to pick him up or Vacarro. Especially if you are only grooming them for the future.
Here is another thing to think about, some organizations have a reputation drafting great players at certain position and poorly on others, so if Jenkins is being viewed as bust, then what are the chances that the next wr won't be, same gm, same scouting and personnel people. I think Jenkins is like crabtree, needs time, and this is with crab being a high pick that he was and being forced in there because of his high draft status. Didn't get a chance cause the niners had so many people in front of him. Not saying they will or won't, all depends who falls and is on their big board and who will contribute more based on their system.