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Who's flying up your draft board?

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
When healthy and the feature back he was a stud. This last season, i feel he was possibly a bit contact shy based on the previous injurys and trying to make sure he stayed healthy going into the draft. This caused his production to drop when he did play. I also dont think he fit in well with arkansas interim coaching staff.As a full time paid athlete, with all the proper trainers to help him strengthen his legs, financial stability, and a program that will back him and put him in a possition to succeed, the kid could be something truely special. Injurys are the biggest red flag, but ankle fractures can happen to anyone. Training regime will be increased to address that issue. He also had a bit of the fumbles this last season, but again that can be coached, and also i have a feeling again that had to do with him shying from contact saving himself for the draft, since it wasnt really a problem in his 2010 season. One more injury and he likely would go undrafted. Thats about all i can say other than his measurables are off the charts, and his 2010 season was other worldly. Kid has a chance to be real special if he can kick aside the leg issues.

Good points. Could be a nice prospect to take a chance on if he lasts long enough in the draft. Would rather have him than Lattimore.
Originally posted by NinerFan408:
Do any nfl teams listen to mayock, kiper, mcshay....like at all? Or are they just there to give us information?

They just go by what Mel, Mike, and Todd have to say. They do not bother on scouting or doing any research on players coming out the draft themselves. While teams are on the clock they will call and consult with the three to ask them which player they should get and what they think about him as a risk/reward perspective.
The Niners need a safety for sure - Cyprien or banks

And Ertz or Hunt with the 34th pick
Jonathan Cyprien
EJ Manuel
Tank Carradine
DeAndre Hopkins
For me its Kniles Davis as well, he has special talent. Hasnt been able to put it together yet with injuries and his propensity for fumbling. He has always been a fumbler. Even in Highschool, but he has immense talent and showed it at the combine. Great size and vision. He will go late 4th or 5th, someone could reach an grab him in the 3rd but i doubt it. I would love to have this guy compete for a roster spot.
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This is the time when quarterbacks start jumping up draft boards/getting overrated. I predict 4 quarterbacks go in round one with two in the first 15 picks. Smith and Manuel top 15 with Barkley and one other towards the end of round one.
Originally posted by DVDA:
This is the time when quarterbacks start jumping up draft boards/getting overrated. I predict 4 quarterbacks go in round one with two in the first 15 picks. Smith and Manuel top 15 with Barkley and one other towards the end of round one.

I wouldnt bet on EJ Manuel going in the top 15. He makes way too many mistakes. But then again I would have never bet on Jake Locker or Christian Ponder going I. The first half of the first round either.
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Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Originally posted by DVDA:
This is the time when quarterbacks start jumping up draft boards/getting overrated. I predict 4 quarterbacks go in round one with two in the first 15 picks. Smith and Manuel top 15 with Barkley and one other towards the end of round one.

I wouldnt bet on EJ Manuel going in the top 15. He makes way too many mistakes. But then again I would have never bet on Jake Locker or Christian Ponder going I. The first half of the first round either.

That's exactly my point. Teams make bad decisions because they want a guy like Locker to be the solution when in reality he wasn't a very good prospect coming out of Washington. I think Manuel is better than Locker and just as athletic. To me there isn't a 1st round QB in this draft, yet someone will overdraft these guys anyway.
Tank Carradine.
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Da'Rick Rogers...after seeing him on "Game Changers" I'm convinced he'd be a great pick. Think about what he could learn from Boldin...they're of similar builds and playing style. Rogers is very strong, fights for the ball (like Boldin) and plays with attitude...reminds me of T.O. when he was really good.
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Originally posted by LieutKaffee:
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
John Jenkins. I always had him as a late first rounder, early second rounder personally, this is evident in my first mock draft that i posted months back. So i wouldnt say he has fle up my board, but i think he has solidified his draft position.

Robert Alford- think he does sometime in the second. The only thing stoping this kid from being a first rounder IMO is his size. Kid is impressive.

Knile Davis- Third rounder i think. Unique combo of size and speed.

JJ Wilcox- possible second rounder. One year at his position, and quite frankly he dominated for a first year SS. The roof is sky high on this kid. He is dynamic.

Aaron Mellette- I was real high on him early. Wained a little, but decided i really like this kid. I could see someone likeing him and nabbing him earlier than anyone is predicting, possibly in the third. could end up a TO clone IMO.

I know Knile Davis increased his stock by running a freakish 40 time, but what do you say to the skeptics who say it's ludicrous that he may get drafted ahead of RBs with far better production and far better tape? (I don't remember the names because I haven't paid any attention to the RB position this year, but this was a topic of discussion on a couple recent podcasts I listened to)

When healthy and the feature back he was a stud. This last season, i feel he was possibly a bit contact shy based on the previous injurys and trying to make sure he stayed healthy going into the draft. This caused his production to drop when he did play. I also dont think he fit in well with arkansas interim coaching staff.As a full time paid athlete, with all the proper trainers to help him strengthen his legs, financial stability, and a program that will back him and put him in a possition to succeed, the kid could be something truely special. Injurys are the biggest red flag, but ankle fractures can happen to anyone. Training regime will be increased to address that issue. He also had a bit of the fumbles this last season, but again that can be coached, and also i have a feeling again that had to do with him shying from contact saving himself for the draft, since it wasnt really a problem in his 2010 season. One more injury and he likely would go undrafted. Thats about all i can say other than his measurables are off the charts, and his 2010 season was other worldly. Kid has a chance to be real special if he can kick aside the leg issues.

Agree 100%, Davis is a stud! I love the way he runs ( he's a little top heavy ), but he's a North South bruiser that has an extra gear. For a guy that size, he's is a downhile plow that can take it to the house
Originally posted by NinerFan408:
Do any nfl teams listen to mayock, kiper, mcshay....like at all? Or are they just there to give us information?

I asked an ex-scout (now with Ourlads) nearly the same question.


How do they assess what the other 31 do? Do they use ie Mel Kiper's (or anyones) mock as basis to gauge them?


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Teams will have their own mock draft exercises between the scouts and coaches..the teams I worked for always used Ourlads