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MadDog's Big 254 Board April 11 Edition

If your board holds true and somehow the first 4 rounds went...

1) Jarvis Jones
2) Keenan Allen
3) John Jenkins or Brandon Williams
3) DJ Swearinger
4) Travis Kelce
4) Tyrann Mathieu

My head would explode with draft pleasure. That would address every starter and depth need on our team with a starting caliber player.
Originally posted by LieutKaffee:
Crap, you also used to have Fragel in range as a late 4th round swing tackle for us. Now mid 3rd, which I think is a bit early for us to address that need. You have any favorite OT prospects we should target in the ~100 range?

I will combine my thoughts on this response:
1. Patterson has a ton of talent, but is a raw route runner, didn't appear to interview well with teams, and to me, his numbers simply were not impressive compared to teammate Justin Hunter. I think he slides down toward the Texans, in that range.
2. Fragel really impressed those of us in Columbus with his transition from TE to OT. Tall, athletic OT's go earlier than expected (Valdeer, Vollmer, etc.)
Originally posted by Crazy49er1313:
Awesome as always MD

Looking to write up a mock this weekend, wanted to ask you your opinion on a few questions I have if you have some time:

1. What's with the love one Sharrif Floyd? Am I off base to say he looks similar to a "Reggie McGrew" coming out of Florida?

2. Will David Amerson be able to transition to FS in the NFL? How well do you think he can be?

3. What happened to William Gholston? From 1st rounder to 3rd-4th rounder, was it his subpar season or is there more to his fall from grace (6'6 3/4 @ 280lbs, not bad)

4. How is Kenjon Barner not mentioned in the same breath as Ace Sanders for KR specialist?

Look forward to seeing your insight for the next few weeks building up to the draft
1. Floyd is explosive, runs well from sideline to sideline, and is really young. Only 20 right now, so he is just learning the game. He is my number one ranked player in this draft. I think he is Warren Sapp.
2. I like Amerson as a FS, and big CB. He simply needs more discipline in his game, and I trust that his secondary coaches will break him of some of his bad habits. I saw similar issues with Aaron Ross coming out of college, and those problems were corrected.
3. Gholston is a first round talent physically, with an undrafted free agent motor. Simply takes way too many plays off, does not play with passion. Terrible waste of talent.
4. I see Barner and Sanders as KR/PR guys in the NFL. Sanders, in my opinion, has a better feel of the position.
Originally posted by LottOfDefense:
Is it coincidence that you have Phillip Thomas and Rambo both slotted to the 9ers. Also Cyprien and Reid are both close to #31 & #34 respectively? Hedging your bets? Can't wait to see what safety(s) the 9ers will select.

A lot of those teams in our region (Texans, Pats, Ravens, etc.) have secondary issues to confront, so I think they tend to fall into some of these slots. No intention for direct matches.
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
cool! I like mine better though... ... http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=15967844#15967844

(full one IS on that page)

Good luck! We will compare notes later.
Originally posted by RedAu:
No offense but I sure hope your wrong about this:

16 Datone Jones UCLA DE
18 Sheldon Richardson Missouri DT

Considering how valuable D-Line is I doubt you are, so trade up it is if we want them.

I know I project Jones much higher than most people, but I think his versatility is going to be very attractive to pro teams, especially ones that run 34 defenses.
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
MD,
Could you rate the best four or five slot corners? With Culliver, Nnamdi and Rogers on the roster, might Fangio move one to FS and might Baalke select a slot corner high. Slay at 61 or trade for Hayden or Alford? Or someone else you've seen? This strategy would have the benefit of both not starting a rookie at FS while getting a faster slot corner.

To me, Rogers and Nnamdi are on borrowed time, and Culliver is at best a nickle back, so the team has to look for a starting quality guy soon. As for slot corners, I love the quicker, lower to the ground guys. If we are just looking at the slot, I'd put Alford, Webb, McFaddon at the top of my list. I believe all three have terrific quickness, excellent footwork and strong change of direction skills needed to matchup in the slot. I like Hayden, Slay, Pryor more on the outside.
Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Thanks for the hard work MadDog it is appreciated. You have Margus Hunt exactly where he should be.

He's one of those guys that I just don't get, but it obvious that many teams are interested in him, so his projection does not match my draft grade.
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
MD,
Jarvis Jones? Is he falling for medical reasons? Would you cross him off your best available list? A pass rushing specialist might be my first priority for the Niners.

Combination of things: Shaky medical history and measurables that are, quite frankly, horrible. I love the kid, but it is not about how they played in college but their projection in the NFL.

I expect the Niners to burn a mid-rounder on an outside rush specialist. Keep an eye on Armonty Bryant, Michael Buchanan, Ty Powell.
Originally posted by GORO:
I believe Nassib will go late first round and maybe the Bills will trade up to get him.

Great work MadDog

I really like Nassib and grade him as the second best QB in this draft. My grades:
1. Manuel
2. Nassib
3. Smith
4. Dysert
5. Scott
Awesome work, Maddog. I love the fact that you are bold and rate Sylvester Williams high. It seems to me most internet draftnicks are underrating him. Huge fan.
Originally posted by Engleburger:
Awesome work, Maddog. I love the fact that you are bold and rate Sylvester Williams high. It seems to me most internet draftnicks are underrating him. Huge fan.

Could go earlier. Maybe 14 to the Panthers.
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I will combine my thoughts on this response:
1. Patterson has a ton of talent, but is a raw route runner, didn't appear to interview well with teams, and to me, his numbers simply were not impressive compared to teammate Justin Hunter. I think he slides down toward the Texans, in that range.
2. Fragel really impressed those of us in Columbus with his transition from TE to OT. Tall, athletic OT's go earlier than expected (Valdeer, Vollmer, etc.)

MadDog, just for sh*ts and grins it be interesting to see how your big boards have fared over the past few years in comparison to where these players actually landed on draft day. Do you have that info?
Weak s**t, we want your actual rankings!!
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
MD,
Jarvis Jones? Is he falling for medical reasons? Would you cross him off your best available list? A pass rushing specialist might be my first priority for the Niners.

Combination of things: Shaky medical history and measurables that are, quite frankly, horrible. I love the kid, but it is not about how they played in college but their projection in the NFL.

I expect the Niners to burn a mid-rounder on an outside rush specialist. Keep an eye on Armonty Bryant, Michael Buchanan, Ty Powell.
Thanks MD.
We don't know what the coaches think of Darius Fleming and Cam Johnson. But with these two on the roster, there may be little reason to draft low to mid-rated pass rushers. If Baalke drafts a pass rush specialist at all, perhaps it would be with a high selection.