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Mock Draft: picks 1-34 with multiple trades, theninermaniac 1.0

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Seems like TE, DL and S are the three must gets in this draft and likely to be in the first two or three rounds. Trading a second would hinder getting all three potential starters, so the only way they trade up is for a game breaking type talent--either a returner (Austin or Patterson) or a pass rusher (D or J Jones). None of the S seem to separate themselves except for Milliner, who will have too steep a price.

But it will be as much fun to be wrong as to be right!

We need a FS, TE2 and NT.

Im all for trading up to get our starting safety by giving up a 3rd and then some. Cyprien makes sense. Reid is one of the more over-rated players in the draft. He did jack all once all his buddies left in that secondary and he gets toasted way too much. No thanks. Cyprien will be 10x the player.

Then take a NT at 34 and a TE at 61. Done.
With Keenan Allen, Justin Hunter, Deandre Hopkins, Datone Jones and Tyler Eifert still on the board at 20 we pick a safety. The position this draft is filled with all the way to the 4th round.

I am lost for words
WTF? Trade up for Cyrien?

FAIL
Originally posted by SteveYoung:
We need a FS, TE2 and NT.

Im all for trading up to get our starting safety by giving up a 3rd and then some. Cyprien makes sense. Reid is one of the more over-rated players in the draft. He did jack all once all his buddies left in that secondary and he gets toasted way too much. No thanks. Cyprien will be 10x the player.

Then take a NT at 34 and a TE at 61. Done.

Biggest misconception on this site. Our needs are much more far reaching. Look at our upcoming free agents! Justin Smith, Donte Whitner, Boldin, Manningham, Williams, Terrel Brown, ... the list goes on.

We also need a DE, SS, WR, and CB (in addition to the NT, FS, and backup TE that you mention). Of all those needs, DE, WR, and CB are the hardest to find. So those will be the positions we address with our early draft picks.
Marcia, Marcia, Marcia. Let's select 13 DEs including Datone, so when Justin gets hurt again this year, we'll have appropriate backups.
This is the most interested I have ever been in the FS position.

Truth be told, if we dial up the pass rush through the draft, it won't matter who we have at FS.
If we trade up to 21 to draft someone as raw as Cyprien who will be there at 31 more than likely I am throwing a football through my TV!
I predict that Baalke will trade out with either #31 or #34.
Originally posted by NC49erfan82:
If we trade up to 21 to draft someone as raw as Cyprien who will be there at 31 more than likely I am throwing a football through my TV!

Cyprien would be there to intercept it.
I'm not keen on trading up for any player in the 1st rd...I could see Baalke trading out of #31 to get another 2nd rounder. The more picks he can acquire in the 1st 3 rds, the better. Between @ #20-70+ is a terrific pool of talent...that's where he could really cash in. Most of the analysts I've read look at Cyprien as more of a SS than a FS in the NFL. But, it's not just between him and Reid...Phillip THomas could arguably be had in late 2nd rd, and he's a true FS with multiple skills. I'd go best DL if TB keeps pick #31, because there is a drop-off in big-time talent afterward. Niners need to quit settling for ok DL b/u talent and go for the gold. We all saw what happened last year when the starters burned out.
Bump from last years mock. Called out SF for trading up for a safety and Stl for trading up to get a WR. Missed on the players, but almost nailed the slotting.
Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Bump from last years mock. Called out SF for trading up for a safety and Stl for trading up to get a WR. Missed on the players, but almost nailed the slotting.

I'm not sure I understand. You think both Reid & Austin were good picks? Reid of course. But Austin?
Originally posted by blm7754:
Originally posted by SteveYoung:
We need a FS, TE2 and NT.

Im all for trading up to get our starting safety by giving up a 3rd and then some. Cyprien makes sense. Reid is one of the more over-rated players in the draft. He did jack all once all his buddies left in that secondary and he gets toasted way too much. No thanks. Cyprien will be 10x the player.

Then take a NT at 34 and a TE at 61. Done.

Biggest misconception on this site. Our needs are much more far reaching. Look at our upcoming free agents! Justin Smith, Donte Whitner, Boldin, Manningham, Williams, Terrel Brown, ... the list goes on.

We also need a DE, SS, WR, and CB (in addition to the NT, FS, and backup TE that you mention). Of all those needs, DE, WR, and CB are the hardest to find. So those will be the positions we address with our early draft picks.

Wow was he wrong.
Jesse Williams

What was most of the world thinking he would be a first rounder? Fifth round, wow!
Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Trades are really confusing. No need to trade up for Cyprien. Makes no sense for buffalo to trade up for Geno. Mia & Tampa trades make little sense either.

I saw buffalo making a move up a few spots to secure their new franchise Qb. Nearly every team drafting in the top 10 have major Qb issues, and I don't thInk geno makes it out of top ten picks. Some team should get aggressive to land geno and I think buffalo makes sense. Maybe they will trade 2014 picks instead of 2013 picks but we all know Kolb stinks. I also thought Detroit is in good position to trade back and begin stockpiling future picks.

I think St. Louis is in a position where they want to move up and land offensive talent. Miami on the other hand has more than a few holes to fill and would benefit from trading down in the draft.

The Pittsburg Tampa trade is probably the least likely, but I felt Ansah would be a player the steelers covet. He's a day one starter in James Harrison's role. Tampa would have missed on milliner and vacarro in my mock, and would be trading down to acquire picks to package in a trade with the jets for revis.





Originally posted by Sims84:
Originally posted by SFrush:
Originally posted by English:
Genuine question: is Cyprien worth Reid plus whoever we could pick in the 3rd?

No, the gap between the two is minimal at best.

Exactly. Plus, if we wanted to trade up for Cyprien in that scenario, it would have to be to 17 ahead of Dallas and its just not worth it. Swearinger, Reid and Elam are all on par with Cyprien in my opinion so there will be a quality safety available in the second round

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z1f2_CFMi6Q

Yes. Cyprien is fills dashon's shoes better than Reid. Reid to me is a coverage liability and he has not proven he has the instincts I want in a safety. He is a great tackler, but cyprien is on par with him in this aspect. Cyprien has displayed not only great instincts, but also the ability to make a play on the ball and make interceptions, a la Goldson.

I believe it is worth whatever it takes to get cyprien whether its at 21 or 17 or even 15 with a trade with New Orleans. We have an abundance of picks this year, with only one major hole to fill at safety. It seems goldson's contributions are taken for granted, and that if we just plug a vet back there then it will be ok. Goldson was an all pro. The defensive line can be addressed later in the draft, as well as o line depth. We are set every where else.

We must take advantage of our position in this draft. We must land a safety. Cyprien and vaccaro are the top prospects at safety in my judgement, worthy of mid round picks, with Reid being a late first, early second grade.


Thanks for everyone's input

Wow What do you think of REID NOW,is he a liability in COVERAGE? really