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A Mock Draft of how I think the 49ers will manipulate the draft

Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Not a huge fan of the picks, but I LOVE the trading. Good work!


I'm on the other side. I love the picks.... not so much the trading. I'd prefer to hold on to #34 to find a future 3-4 DE star to develop behind Justin Smith.

Patton is one of my favorite WR prospects. Perhaps one of the best all-around guys. He's fast, has decent size, polished route runner, good hands, etc.

Slay and Amerson would be a major boost to our DB. McDonald is also a solid pick.

Brandon Williams IS A BEAST and I'd be shocked if he's there late in the 3rd round. If he is, it's a great pick.
seymour aint taking vet minimum
Like the picks but don't think guys like Amerson and B. Williams are going to be there in the 3rd round. Amerson has shown that he has straight line speed and that was his biggest question mark. Williams showed that he coud play the big boys at the Senior Bowl so he's definitely not going to be there that late. Just think the Niners should stay put at the end of the first to get the same mix of players.
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Like the picks but don't think guys like Amerson and B. Williams are going to be there in the 3rd round. Amerson has shown that he has straight line speed and that was his biggest question mark. Williams showed that he coud play the big boys at the Senior Bowl so he's definitely not going to be there that late. Just think the Niners should stay put at the end of the first to get the same mix of players.

Amerson is one of my favorite players in this draft. I think he complete with the right coaching. I feel he will have one of those stars by his name on the Niners board
I really like th trading for 2014.

Good picks BUT still VERY concerned about late DL picks. IMO, DL is a very big issue for us.

REALLY liked taking care of ADavis this season w/others to follow.
Originally posted by SFL49ER:
Moving up to get who? Datone Jones? Maybe he could be a steal but think his stock is all over the place, and that tells me he's no clear cut to be dominant in the 3/4. I'm scared of trading up to early 20s to get him.


Originally posted by SFL49ER:
Originally posted by RishikeshA:
I like the idea of making some trades but not the first two picks. This is a team that is right there and a few top players can help close the deal in NY next year. Maybe moving up is a possibility.

Moving up to get who? Datone Jones? Maybe he could be a steal but think his stock is all over the place, and that tells me he's no clear cut to be dominant in the 3/4. I'm scared of trading up to early 20s to get him.

Could see them move up to take Kenny Vaccaro......
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
I really like th trading for 2014.

Good picks BUT still VERY concerned about late DL picks. IMO, DL is a very big issue for us.

REALLY liked taking care of ADavis this season w/others to follow.

Thanks. Our late picks on the DL wouldn't very likely be active on gameday, unless Kruger can show he can play inside in our nickel defense with his long frame. And make it tough on short qbs to throw. Really we have a lot of depth if we sign another vet DL and seriously, Justin Smith coming back healthy gives us a top level front line. And he can still play most snaps in the game.

There is no clear cut 5 tech guy that's just going to appear in the draft if your out of the top 10. I think we have the rotation if Williams can take the NT spot from Dorsey. Dorsey concerns me as well anchoring the line but think Jesse Williams is very overrated. Too top heavy, and not a big pocket collapse lineman. I value Tomsula developing B. Williams more.
Love, love, LOVE trading #34 for Buffalo's 1st in 2014.
Love the Darius Slay, McDonald and Shawn Williams picks. National Football Post said some scouts thought he looked better than Rambo at the Georgia Pro Day(minus the great hands) and Williams ran a 4.46 which would be nice from one of the safety spots.

Williams seems like a good pick to compete with Ian Williams and McDonald seems to have some of the best measurables at the TE position in the draft.

The only thing your draft is probably lacking is a pass rusher. When teams go to a three wide-receiver we need a pass rusher to spell either McDonald/J.Smith or Aldon/Brooks. We were rumored to want Bruce Irvin last year and we brought in John Abraham and the link both share are being known more for their pass rushing than their run stopping ability.

So maybe we go for a pass rusher with your 128th pick. I don't love all your picks but I can't really disagree with the logic on any of them. Very nice mock.
Originally posted by Derelict:
Love the Darius Slay, McDonald and Shawn Williams picks. National Football Post said some scouts thought he looked better than Rambo at the Georgia Pro Day(minus the great hands) and Williams ran a 4.46 which would be nice from one of the safety spots.

Williams seems like a good pick to compete with Ian Williams and McDonald seems to have some of the best measurables at the TE position in the draft.

The only thing your draft is probably lacking is a pass rusher. When teams go to a three wide-receiver we need a pass rusher to spell either McDonald/J.Smith or Aldon/Brooks. We were rumored to want Bruce Irvin last year and we brought in John Abraham and the link both share are being known more for their pass rushing than their run stopping ability.

So maybe we go for a pass rusher with your 128th pick. I don't love all your picks but I can't really disagree with the logic on any of them. Very nice mock.


I love S. Williams and some people on here know Im not a fan of Rambo at the FS for us. I always thought he was a better football player in instints and physicality. I would love another pass rusher, but think Darius Fleming will be back and healthy. I didnt have Cam Johnson making the final 53, but he could be a sleeper; he has pass rushing ability.
Originally posted by kronik:
Do we really need more picks? If I was to trade, I would trade up. Especially with all those late round picks. Package them all for a 4th or 5th if possible

Picks are like gold in the NFL. Picks are the preferred currency in the league these days. With picks you can make trades (Boldin), work the draft, moving up or down, accumulating yet more and better picks in future years. Plus we will likely pick up another couple of 3's or 4's as compensation for losing Goldson, Walker, RJF and Soap.

I think Baalke really values picks.
[ Edited by DaveWilcox on Mar 24, 2013 at 7:08 PM ]
Originally posted by DaveWilcox:
Originally posted by kronik:
Do we really need more picks? If I was to trade, I would trade up. Especially with all those late round picks. Package them all for a 4th or 5th if possible

Picks are like gold in the NFL. Picks are the preferred currency in the league these days. With picks you can make trades (Boldin), work the draft, moving up or down, accumulating yet more and better picks in future years. Plus we will likely pick up another couple of 3's or 4's as compensation for losing Goldson, Walker, RJF and Soap.

I think Baalke really values picks.

I think baalke just values a good deal. If he feels he's getting the better end of it than he will do it. But he's show he will trade up to aquire a player he likes and he will trade out if he doesn't like anyone. I expect to be making a lot of moves come draft day both ways.
Going in, Baalke has 5 picks in the 1st 3 rds...#31, 34, 61, 74 & 93. After all your trades, you still have 5 picks in the first 3 rds...you gained a 1st rd pick in 2014, assuming the Bills would make that trade. Instead of picking at #31, the first pick is #42. The risk I see in doing what you propose is we'd arguably make the first pick after most if not all the best DL are off the board. I'm also against drafting a "pure" NT...i.e. a player who only plays that position. There are a number of elite "bigs" who can play anywhere on the DL...by trading out of the #31 and #34 slots, that could be too late to get one of them. If Slay's still on the board at the end of the 2nd rd, great. However, his stock has been rising since the Senior Bowl & combine, so he could be taken before Banks. I understand that Amerson could be a FS...for me, I'd rather see Baalke draft a FS with experience (in that position), like Phillip Thomas. I'm all for getting more picks in the #20 - 70 range...NFL experts agree that's the best pocket of talent in this draft. I'm just not sure Baalke would need to sacrifice the first two picks to achieve that. He's got late 3rd, 4th, 5th and even 6th rd picks to use...if he can net 7 picks in the 1st three rds, that could well be enough to come away with. There's arguably a finite number that stand to make the roster, anyway.
Like the trades. Don't see us drafting 2 offensive players in the first 3 picks. Defense will be our first 3 out of 4 picks.

Most believe the 2nd and 3rd rounds are stronger than normal. Tendency for teams to try to draft back? I would think Baalke will have the tendency to trade back, unless someone gives us a sweet reason to move up (a trade offer - not a draft crush).
Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Going in, Baalke has 5 picks in the 1st 3 rds...#31, 34, 61, 74 & 93. After all your trades, you still have 5 picks in the first 3 rds...you gained a 1st rd pick in 2014, assuming the Bills would make that trade. Instead of picking at #31, the first pick is #42. The risk I see in doing what you propose is we'd arguably make the first pick after most if not all the best DL are off the board. I'm also against drafting a "pure" NT...i.e. a player who only plays that position. There are a number of elite "bigs" who can play anywhere on the DL...by trading out of the #31 and #34 slots, that could be too late to get one of them. If Slay's still on the board at the end of the 2nd rd, great. However, his stock has been rising since the Senior Bowl & combine, so he could be taken before Banks. I understand that Amerson could be a FS...for me, I'd rather see Baalke draft a FS with experience (in that position), like Phillip Thomas. I'm all for getting more picks in the #20 - 70 range...NFL experts agree that's the best pocket of talent in this draft. I'm just not sure Baalke would need to sacrifice the first two picks to achieve that. He's got late 3rd, 4th, 5th and even 6th rd picks to use...if he can net 7 picks in the 1st three rds, that could well be enough to come away with. There's arguably a finite number that stand to make the roster, anyway.

Good post, good thoughts.

The Bills pick later than the other qb needy teams. G. Smith is gone at #3. If they could jump teams for their qb in the trade and still have their original 2nd too, the trade is plausible, because they may feel theyll be a better team next year. I think they'll be in the hunt for the number 1 pick.

My first reasoning for the trades are that no dominant dl are just going to appear in late April. To be a great defense, you have to stop the run. Why pick one with queston marks on thursday (J. W.) when the value isn't there and you have the stock to target a fierce NT with penetrating ability the next day? I like B. Williams to anchor and shut down the run. In the Nickel, bring in the four man front with dorsey on the depth chart.

I love Slay. Cover corner. Depth at cb. Hope he is there and we target him.

Amerson is one of my fav defenders. He has range and speed to play on the backend. A little over aggressive sometimes but can read the qb well and has great hands. Doesn't Amersons versatility just scream, "the 49ers way"?

I may have misunderstood what you meant by coming away with 7 picks in the first 3 rounds but I think Baalke wants more ammo for early picks next year so that our early draftees can be staggered with their contracts also. And there's plenty of players on the roster today capable, but bringing in early picks for comp IS the 49ers way.

And Baalke is a master at taking all the advantage he can with giving a little to gain a lot. All of us see the qb needy teams and where they are slotted. Baalke is thinking what he does every year, trying to gain higher picks for the future.