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No-Brainer in 1st Round - WR Robert Woods USC

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Im not saying that Woods cant play because he goes to USC. Just like I would not say that Barkley cant play because of past USC failures at QB. I just your original premise that Woods is a no brainer in the first is way off. I see him as a late 2nd or early 3rd rd prospect.

Fair enough. WR is a huge need for us and if Woods is attainable in the 2nd, I hope the Niner brass pull the trigger. I think he's a better prospect than AJ Jenkins.

Those who think the Nines have greater needs at other positions, like D-line and CB, are delusional!

The D-line still has Ray and Justin. The CB core still consists of Brown, Culliver and Rogers. But currently, the healthy WR's on the Niner roster are Crabtree, AJ, Ricardo Lockette and Chad Hall!
He's not a 1st rd pick...2nd, possibly, maybe as late as our 1st pick in 3rd rd. Bigger fish to fry in 1st maybe even 2nd rd. Agree, he's a quality WR who has his explosion back after being hampered by ankle issues last season. But, WR isn't the biggest need on our team...it's DL and that's where Baalke can really make some hay perhaps by trading up to get a 2nd one and taking one at #31. I get it some are sceaming CB in 1st rd, but just remember...it all (defense) starts up front. The bigger and badder our DL is, the less pressure on our secondary and more opportunities for Mr's Smith and Brooks to put the heat on the QB.
Member Milestone: This is post number 400 for matthewabbit.
f we were to draft a w.r in the first round it had better be a beast that we move up to get. seems like all of our w.r.s are 6 foot 200lbs. plus were gonna trade alex for dwaine bowe or fitz so we dont need another one ... right. lol
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
There is nothing obvious about Woods that suggests that he can not play in the NFL, but there is nothing to suggest that he was even the most talented WR on his team, which you would generally expect from a 1st round WR.
Isn't that last statement a little bit absurd? Saying he's not the best receiver on his team. I mean who are we kidding, the other guy on his team won the Biletnikoff for being the best wide receiver in the country last year. When you take that into consideration, anyone that lines up opposite the best wide receiver in college football is going to look worse by comparison.

As a Cal fan, having seen him play for the last 3 years, I can tell you Woods is a great player. And his numbers weren't a product of having an excess of offensive skill players around him. In fact, going into 2011 he was USC's only proven offensive threat, which lead to Marqise Lee's emergence as a freshman because Woods saw the majority of the double teams. Then Lee being the better talent took over his position last season and put up better numbers in 2012.

All things withstanding, I think where Woods falls short is that he doesn't have the elite physical tools of some of the other top receivers in this draft class. He's pretty lean, has durability issues (although he does play through injuries), and he's not overly big nor has elite speed. He basically has a limited ceiling. That said, people drastically undervalue his intangibles. The guy has great hands, is about as high character as they come, and will probably pick up the playbook faster than any rookie WR coming out. Great route runner and very football smart as he learned 3 different positions in a complex pro-style offense at USC. He lined up all over the field in 2011 at slot, X, Z, even RB. It was a nightmare playing against his sophomore season.

The question is whether you want to use a high round pick on a guy that doesn't have the prototype 1st round attributes to be an elite physical talent at this level. In our situation, I can't see us wasting the pick. That being said though, there are plenty of WRs in the league that are still productive despite not having the ideal measurables. Woods, practically has the same measurables as a Victor Cruz 6' 200lbs high 4.4-low 4.5 40. I don't think he's a 1st rounder, but I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up as one of those mid round guys that emerges out of nowhere after a few years in the league. IMO, as a late 2nd rounder / 3rd round pick he's a huge steal.
4 reasons we won't draft Woods.


  1. Baalke is not going to risk having back to back first round picks at WR, be called busts.
  2. Top 3 picks of the last 3 drafts, 6 of the 9 were offensive players, Our D's turn at the draft. Most teams draft a balanced approach.
  3. The strength of our team ended up to be offense, when we were suppose to be all about D. More pressure to draft D.
  4. We drafted a Trojan WR (Johnson), didn't pan out. In fact the last two Trojans we drafted didn't pan out (Taylor Mays). That leaves a bad taste in one's mouth. Doubt we will draft a Trojan anytime soon.
Originally posted by questnevrythng:
Isn't that last statement a little bit absurd? Saying he's not the best receiver on his team. I mean who are we kidding, the other guy on his team won the Biletnikoff for being the best wide receiver in the country last year. When you take that into consideration, anyone that lines up opposite the best wide receiver in college football is going to look worse by comparison.

As a Cal fan, having seen him play for the last 3 years, I can tell you Woods is a great player. And his numbers weren't a product of having an excess of offensive skill players around him. In fact, going into 2011 he was USC's only proven offensive threat, which lead to Marqise Lee's emergence as a freshman because Woods saw the majority of the double teams. Then Lee being the better talent took over his position last season and put up better numbers in 2012.

All things withstanding, I think where Woods falls short is that he doesn't have the elite physical tools of some of the other top receivers in this draft class. He's pretty lean, has durability issues (although he does play through injuries), and he's not overly big nor has elite speed. He basically has a limited ceiling. That said, people drastically undervalue his intangibles. The guy has great hands, is about as high character as they come, and will probably pick up the playbook faster than any rookie WR coming out. Great route runner and very football smart as he learned 3 different positions in a complex pro-style offense at USC. He lined up all over the field in 2011 at slot, X, Z, even RB. It was a nightmare playing against his sophomore season.

The question is whether you want to use a high round pick on a guy that doesn't have the prototype 1st round attributes to be an elite physical talent at this level. In our situation, I can't see us wasting the pick. That being said though, there are plenty of WRs in the league that are still productive despite not having the ideal measurables. Woods, practically has the same measurables as a Victor Cruz 6' 200lbs high 4.4-low 4.5 40. I don't think he's a 1st rounder, but I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up as one of those mid round guys that emerges out of nowhere after a few years in the league. IMO, as a late 2nd rounder / 3rd round pick he's a huge steal.

I pretty much agree with everything you said.

Woods is a great WR. The main concern is his lack of physical talent on the next level, as he could project to being purely a possession WR.

I wouldn't compare him to Victor Cruz though.