Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Tavon Austin 4.25 & Markus Wheaton 4.34
your boy Patton 4.46
Austin: 4.34
Wheaton: 4.45
Yes Official times n Patton was 4.53 and Ace Sanders 4.58
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Tavon Austin 4.25 & Markus Wheaton 4.34
your boy Patton 4.46
Austin: 4.34
Wheaton: 4.45
Originally posted by jdp88:
I'm curious what everyones thoughts are on Ryan Swope out of Texas AM guy ran a 4.34 in the 40, his official stats are 6' 205 and he's had a pretty consistent college career. I read somewhere he was graded a 2nd rounder prior to the combine. NFL.com stated his biggest weakness was his straight line speed (listed at 4.56 prior to the combine) I feel like he might have changed some opinions about that today. I like him, I think he would make a great slot receiver and he has the size and strength to have a long career, plus he just proved he's very fast. What does everyone else think?
Originally posted by oregonniner:
To me, drafting wide receivers and quarterbacks are the most unpredictable positions to draft. That being said, I would trust drafting Robert Woods. He looks ready to go right away and he isn't such a developmental player. I do wonder about his ankle a little bit, but I don't think it's serious. If anything I think it is what is dropping him down draft boards, because it hurt his senior season.
Originally posted by DarkKnight1680:
Like Billick said on the broadcast, the 40 time just leads you back to the tape, and the tape will tell you that 4.34 from Swope was likely either a fluke of a great start or he doesn't play to his 40 time (reverse-Jerry). He's a solid wideout prospect but he won't be a burner in the pros despite his 40 time.
I really like woods as well. 12 months ago he was a top 5 draft prospect, but some injuries (not career-altering) and poor QB play (not his fault) and the emergence of another great WR at his same school (not his fault) have depressed his prospects a bit. As a late first/early second option I think he'd be an absolute steal. He's a Crabtree type receiver, and you can't have enough of those.
Originally posted by DarkKnight1680:
Originally posted by jdp88:
I'm curious what everyones thoughts are on Ryan Swope out of Texas AM guy ran a 4.34 in the 40, his official stats are 6' 205 and he's had a pretty consistent college career. I read somewhere he was graded a 2nd rounder prior to the combine. NFL.com stated his biggest weakness was his straight line speed (listed at 4.56 prior to the combine) I feel like he might have changed some opinions about that today. I like him, I think he would make a great slot receiver and he has the size and strength to have a long career, plus he just proved he's very fast. What does everyone else think?
Like Billick said on the broadcast, the 40 time just leads you back to the tape, and the tape will tell you that 4.34 from Swope was likely either a fluke of a great start or he doesn't play to his 40 time (reverse-Jerry). He's a solid wideout prospect but he won't be a burner in the pros despite his 40 time.
Originally posted by oregonniner:
To me, drafting wide receivers and quarterbacks are the most unpredictable positions to draft. That being said, I would trust drafting Robert Woods. He looks ready to go right away and he isn't such a developmental player. I do wonder about his ankle a little bit, but I don't think it's serious. If anything I think it is what is dropping him down draft boards, because it hurt his senior season.
I really like woods as well. 12 months ago he was a top 5 draft prospect, but some injuries (not career-altering) and poor QB play (not his fault) and the emergence of another great WR at his same school (not his fault) have depressed his prospects a bit. As a late first/early second option I think he'd be an absolute steal. He's a Crabtree type receiver, and you can't have enough of those.
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Tavon Austin 4.25 & Markus Wheaton 4.34
your boy Patton 4.46
Originally posted by oregonniner:
To me, drafting wide receivers and quarterbacks are the most unpredictable positions to draft. That being said, I would trust drafting Robert Woods. He looks ready to go right away and he isn't such a developmental player. I do wonder about his ankle a little bit, but I don't think it's serious. If anything I think it is what is dropping him down draft boards, because it hurt his senior season.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Tavon Austin 4.25 & Markus Wheaton 4.34
your boy Patton 4.46
So Patton would lose in a track meet to both of those guys......but out on the football field if speed determined performance, Darius Heyward Bey would have made Michael Crabtree his b***h if 40 times really mattered and the Raiders would the 5 or 6 time consecutive Superbowl winners.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by oregonniner:
To me, drafting wide receivers and quarterbacks are the most unpredictable positions to draft. That being said, I would trust drafting Robert Woods. He looks ready to go right away and he isn't such a developmental player. I do wonder about his ankle a little bit, but I don't think it's serious. If anything I think it is what is dropping him down draft boards, because it hurt his senior season.
Hhe wasn't even the best receiver on his own team, disappointing would be an understatement...plus I have a superstition now about WR's with the last name Woods....it'd be like drafting a defensive lineman named Balmer or a quarterback named Carmazzi......bad karma.
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Yes understood but Austin is a hands catcher unlike Heyward Bey oh god he is awful. Wheaton & Patton are more of a project but they do have alot of upside. No doubt Austin will be a late 1st round pick he helped himself alot.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by oregonniner:
To me, drafting wide receivers and quarterbacks are the most unpredictable positions to draft. That being said, I would trust drafting Robert Woods. He looks ready to go right away and he isn't such a developmental player. I do wonder about his ankle a little bit, but I don't think it's serious. If anything I think it is what is dropping him down draft boards, because it hurt his senior season.
Hhe wasn't even the best receiver on his own team, disappointing would be an understatement...plus I have a superstition now about WR's with the last name Woods....it'd be like drafting a defensive lineman named Balmer or a quarterback named Carmazzi......bad karma.
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by oregonniner:
To me, drafting wide receivers and quarterbacks are the most unpredictable positions to draft. That being said, I would trust drafting Robert Woods. He looks ready to go right away and he isn't such a developmental player. I do wonder about his ankle a little bit, but I don't think it's serious. If anything I think it is what is dropping him down draft boards, because it hurt his senior season.
Hhe wasn't even the best receiver on his own team, disappointing would be an understatement...plus I have a superstition now about WR's with the last name Woods....it'd be like drafting a defensive lineman named Balmer or a quarterback named Carmazzi......bad karma.
Woods reminds me of another USC standout Steve Smith they're good but not alot of upside imo.
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Yes Official times n Patton was 4.53 and Ace Sanders 4.58
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Patton
3 cone drill 6.91
20 yrd shuffle 4.01
Vertical 33
8 reps @ 225
Wheaton
3 cone drill 6.80
20 yrd shuffle 4.02
60 yrd shuffle 11.16
Vertical 37
20 reps @225
Its a toss up but I like Wheaton's upside