Originally posted by Travisty13:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
I challenge you find anywhere where I stated any of them were reaches.
Not quite sure why you have the rolling your eyes smiley. But anyways, that was not my point. My point was Baalke doesn't care what people think are reaches. He gets the guys he wants. Furthermore saying a guy is a reach pre-combine and pro-days isn't very accurate. Guys move up and down all offseason season prior to the draft. Ryan is considered a 1-2 round fringe guy (similar to Jenkins last year). Gholston is considered a 3rd round guy. Who's to say he'd be at our picks in the 3rd? We have a late 2nd (pretty much the same as an early 3rd). If Baalke thinks he'll be gone by our 3rd (and had a 2nd round grade on him), do you really think he wouldn't pick him?
First, I was responding to a mock done by you, not Trent Baalke. I would imagine that Trent couldn't give a rats ass about how we felt about his draft picks. Second, you are right, it isn't accurate to say anyone is a reach pre-combine. But you know what? So is your mock, and everyone else mock, and mines as well when I release it after the combine. Until players are pick all of this mock draft talk is just conjecture, fun stuff for us the fans chew on and fill our time until the season comes around. So, 3rd, when you put your mock out there expect it to be scrutinized, just as I expect mines to be.
Now, most scouting sites I've visited have Ryan as an early to mid 2nd, to no later than mid 3rd. I haven't seen many with him going in the 1st, yet. If he has a stellar combine he'll be a 1st round no brainer.Gholson, on the other hand, is all over the place, for many reasons. But the highest I seen him projected is mid/late 3rd, most have him between early to late 4th and early 5th.
Bottom line, I'm on the wagon of any guy Baalke and JH drafts. Until then imma have fun with this mock stuff like I do every year