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Stephen Hill - 2 TD's today and 90 yards

Originally posted by YungAce:
Kyle Williams and Mario Manningham aren't speedy receivers. AJ Jenkins plays much faster than both of them.

Williams is fast as f**k. Remember the TD against the rams?
Originally posted by Godsleftsock:
Originally posted by YungAce:
Kyle Williams and Mario Manningham aren't speedy receivers. AJ Jenkins plays much faster than both of them.

Williams is fast as f**k. Remember the TD against the rams?


Williams is super quick into and out of his cuts. But long speed fast he is not as fast as AJ Jenkins. He's certainly not slow btw (Williams). He's fast. Just not as stop watch fast as Jenkins.
Originally posted by Godsleftsock:
Originally posted by YungAce:
Kyle Williams and Mario Manningham aren't speedy receivers. AJ Jenkins plays much faster than both of them.

Williams is fast as f**k. Remember the TD against the rams?

Yes. It's on the last page
@marty, yeah when I meant speedy I meant fast
Some people like to start fights in empty rooms.
http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/09/12/49ers-draft-class-not-paying-immediate-dividends/
Seems like Jenkins isn't the only puzzling pick Baalke made
Nothing against Hill I think he's a fantastic prospect and can end up being an elite receiver, he's got the skills, but how good he ends up has nothing to do with the AJ Jenkins selection.

If AJ Jenkins ends up being as good as Jennings who cares if you could have gotten a different great receiver.

As far as him not playing now. Well we drafted him for the long term not the short term. We're fine at receiver right now. You know how many yards Victor Cruz had in his rookie season? Try 0. 1,500 yards in his 2nd season when he did get the opportunity. Show some patience.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Sep 13, 2012 at 7:49 AM ]
Originally posted by 16to87:
http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/09/12/49ers-draft-class-not-paying-immediate-dividends/
Seems like Jenkins isn't the only puzzling pick Baalke made

They werent drafted for immediate dividends.

Theres been lots of players who started out looking great as rookies only to fizzle out and never be heard of again after a couple years. Theres also been lots of players who started out slow as rookies and didnt offer much, then they went on to probowlers and hall of famers.
[ Edited by btthepunk on Sep 13, 2012 at 8:27 AM ]
calm down, calm down...we have em right where we want em...

We have 3 DANG good receivers...we don't really need AJ to be a superstar right now...we have depth...which is something a lot of other teams don't have
Replace the names Stephen Hill with JJ Watt and AJ Jenkins with Aldon Smith.

Those naming Jenkins a bust and calling for Baalke's head are the same people that wanted him out of the organization prior to 2011. They're irrational and need to subconsciously justify their dead wrong opinion of him.
Originally posted by simplyfloyd:
calm down, calm down...we have em right where we want em...

We have 3 DANG good receivers...we don't really need AJ to be a superstar right now...we have depth...which is something a lot of other teams don't have


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Originally posted by redrathman:
Replace the names Stephen Hill with JJ Watt and AJ Jenkins with Aldon Smith.

Those naming Jenkins a bust and calling for Baalke's head are the same people that wanted him out of the organization prior to 2011. They're irrational and need to subconsciously justify their dead wrong opinion of him.

It's not like JJ Watts is a bad football player. On Sunday he had 4 batted passes and 1.5 sacks. Plays on one of the best defenses in the league too. It's like with Alex. Some people just can't get over their personal opinions. They fall in love with someone and are just waiting for any glimpse to say they were right.

Also kind of funny that Houston wanted Aldon over Watts. Smith was never the reach people thought he was. When Wade Phillips is drooling over a prospect you should probally take note of it.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Sep 13, 2012 at 11:05 AM ]
Originally posted by redrathman:
Replace the names Stephen Hill with JJ Watt and AJ Jenkins with Aldon Smith.

Those naming Jenkins a bust and calling for Baalke's head are the same people that wanted him out of the organization prior to 2011. They're irrational and need to subconsciously justify their dead wrong opinion of him.

I'll take those first two over the second two every day of the week...although you speak the truth that it is irrational to call any rookie a bust. Jenkins could end up a superstar, or a bust.

Watt was probably the most impactful defender in Week One of the NFL. The Texans were struggling, and he makes back to back tips that ended up in interceptions. It completely turned the game around. Goes on to add two more deflections, and 1 1/2 sacks. He is on his way to another stud year, and at this pace will be All-Pro at the end of the season.

As for Hill, the kid is still learning how to play WR, and with his size and speed, the ceiling is very high. Will surely have ups and downs, as all rookie WR's do, but a stellar first game out of the box is a lot better than a tough outing.
Remember Baldwin of Seattle last year? He did pretty good for a UFA. While I liked hill in the draft, the truth is that with all the niners brought in, Hill would have sat like Jenkins. The reason I brought up Baldwin is that if a team doesn't have any competition at a position, you have more chances to produce.

Fleener did good too for the Colts, but he wouldn't unseat VD, at best he would get the same looks as Walker. Thing is also, will Alex trust any of them as compared to long time teammates Crab, VD? Will he trust them over proven pros like Manningham and Moss? No. The niners future will get there. Right now they need to sit and learn, yet be ready if we stumble like last year. Look at Jacobs and Ginn. This is the first game only. Let the game come to them and not force them.

As for Hill, teams will figure him out and what the Jets doing with him. Just like the Packers, teams will figure out a way using the Giants and the Niners basic blueprint, not all will be successful, but more will than last year.
I think Harbaugh just likes to bring his picks along a little slower than most. It seems he really likes to bring along young guys and develop them he is not the type of coach to just throw a kid into the fire. He is not going to start a guy just because there a high round pick they have to prove their better then whos in front of them or they will be on the bench till there ready.