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MadDog's Niners Draft Grade and Analysis for 2012 NFL Draft

Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
I respect the hell out you MD, but Jenkins is an F grade? It filled a need and was a good pick, he is a speedster who was productive at Illinois with a s**tty QB.

James is great pick, Sproles like to me.

Based on the way the draft went, Konz and Sanu would of been reaches, they went may lower than our picks would of been.

I am also happy with the trades we made, can't beat turning one pick into a 3rd, 5th, 6th in 2013 and 2 6ths this year.

It wasn't a flashy draft, but it was what we needed, depth. We didn't have many needs or holes at all. I only see maybe 5 open roster spots for the 53 man right now.

I give us a B+, and thats not counting the 3 2013 picks that we got.

agree 1000%

Same here.
[ Edited by LAFortyNinerfan on Apr 29, 2012 at 2:29 PM ]
Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
Don't care what you think, lol

THIS
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
I respect the hell out you MD, but Jenkins is an F grade? It filled a need and was a good pick, he is a speedster who was productive at Illinois with a s**tty QB.

James is great pick, Sproles like to me.

Based on the way the draft went, Konz and Sanu would of been reaches, they went may lower than our picks would of been.

I am also happy with the trades we made, can't beat turning one pick into a 3rd, 5th, 6th in 2013 and 2 6ths this year.

It wasn't a flashy draft, but it was what we needed, depth. We didn't have many needs or holes at all. I only see maybe 5 open roster spots for the 53 man right now.

I give us a B+, and thats not counting the 3 2013 picks that we got.


I agree, and also appreciate the work Maddog and OTC do on drafts. AB has hit on many of my thoughts--Konz injury history lowered his value, and rating the Jenkins pick an F seems an over reaction to shouldawouldacoulda (not getting what you want).

Also have to agree with the rating on many late choices as they were taken much later than the various draft predictions that I had been following and deserved A grades. Looney is a huge question to me but Baalke has such a good track record that he has my respect.

Last year the only whiff was the WR Johnson, so if they are as successful this year...whahoo!

It appears that some are still not able to overcome past differences with Maddog and should let it go.
I also wonder about many "experts" - on here or in media - and I am not having a dig at anyone in particular - but I worry that far too many are wowed by rookies who do great in their 1st year - and forget about any that don't. About 95% of drafted players are just not ready.

Yet people will write off the picks of last year that haven't done anything yet - and people will call AJ a bust if he does little this year.

In fairness some have mentioned Kilgore, but some are still blinded that we lost a couple of Guards - and forget there are still other Guards on the roster, and still FAs available, and still more that will be released by other teams before the season starts. (Not to mention we already have over 80 players to whittle down to the 46 that suit up on gameday.)

Drafts should hopefully offer people that will fill roster slots for years to come - but they are not for providing multiple immediate starters, though the reaction of some would have you believe otherwise.

I love looking for draft grades immediately after a draft - but with the knowledge that no one really has a clue.

Look up past draft classes - how would you grade them? Does it matter if the 1st round pick didn't work out if you got long term players in the 5th and 6th round? For example, check the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_NFL_Draft which will always be famous for Brady's late selection. What does the Pats draft class that year get and how much can any 6th round pick affect the grade?
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Coming from the guy who wanted JJ Watt over Aldon Smith, yeah, lost your credibility a long time ago. D's and F's for the first 2 picks? lmao
people who loved taylor mays and nate davis and ripped the dog when he dared to disagree with them should talk about credibility

doesnt matter now, back on topic.
[ Edited by defenderDX on Apr 29, 2012 at 2:41 PM ]
MD first of all thank you for all your hard work during the draft process and helping these unknowlegdable people who don't know s**t about the draft (like the many who posted before me) up to date on current incoming college players. Why everyone is dissing you now after the draft? I don't know.

Round 1. When you explain the reasoning behind your grade, it makes since. To give up a third and select the best offensive guard to come out since Hutchinson, we should've moved up all day. Decastro would have made our whole line better and he would be on the field every play on offense. The F/O missed on the trade up here. As much as I'm shocked about the pick of AJ Jenkins, I still like him and I know both you and myself were high on him before the draft. I've even referred to his hands and route running being similar to Jerry Rice. Yes, J.R.
Grade B-

Round 2. If you think your an expert in the big ten, I'm your expert for the PAC 12 (excluding Colorado and Utah for now). With most of my family being Ducks fans, I can tell you this pick is an A+. LMJ is the most explosive player in this draft not named RG|||. Chris Rainey is not even on the map when compared to LMJ. I was a little surprised that we got him truthfully as he is smaller back like Kendall Hunter, but he will be a returner similar to the greatest in history, Chicago's Devin Hester. This alone gets him an A+ grade being selected in the second round. He offers more than Hester on offense, he is not afraid of contact and is so fast, no defense can account for him with only a single player. Sorry Gore but LMJ will take away more of your carries than you think.
Grade A+

Round 3- no player picked as the pick was traded for a third, fifth, and sixth round selections next year and a sixth this year. If you're going to give me 15 cents for 10 cents. I'm a winner and so was Baalke.
Grade A

Round 4- moving up to grab a position of need. No question this pick was forced for us to take guard as we passed over guard the first three rounds. I'm not too familiar with the player myself but the position needed starter material through the draft and we didn't get that for this year. Giving up that extra pick in the sixth doesn't hurt us much, I just don't know if this pick does us much good this year besides inexperienced depth.
Grade C-

Round 5- with the best linebacking crew in the League, we knew this position only needed depth and a special teamer. I think we got more than that in Flemming an overlooked linebacker playing next to Teo? At Norte Dame. His numbers don't suggest he was a pass rich specialist but I think he develops nicely and has the time to do so, quality pick here
Grade B

Round 6- this pick is horrible. I have to completely disagree with you on this. He can run with wideouts and should be switched to corner, if he stays at safety we messed up. Duke Ihenacho from SJSU should've been the pick here. Robinson may be a willing tackler but that doesn't mean he is good at it. He was constantly getting run over by running backs and wideouts in college. This was the worst pick of the draft for me as we filled a need but did not select a quality player.
Grade D-

Round 7- okay pick here the problem with him is straight up, his medical condition of carrying the sickle cell trait. He could be very similar to Rasheed Saleem? A lb we drafted in the third round a while back but became tired quicker and easier due to his Muslim religion and fasting during training camp( not a good idea). If Harbaugh can somehow give Johnson special treatment and break him more during practice and games, this may be a great pick, I just don't see Harbaugh slowing down for anyone. The fact that he's a seventh rounder who could make the team makes this pick that much better.
Grade C+

Understand what your saying about transitioning back to real life. haha. And to all you hating on MD STFU. Ha. Look I'm glad we got Aldon Smith but JJ Watt is just as good. And is the Texans version of Aldon Smith , both would've been great picks last year at seven.
[ Edited by D-Money on Apr 29, 2012 at 2:42 PM ]
Originally posted by LieutKaffee:
MadDog, thanks for the analysis. As the first draft was unfolding I was hoping like heck the 49ers were going to make a move for DeCastro. Then, in the second round, I was hoping like heck Konz would fall just a little bit further (after the Bears traded up for Jeffrey instead of Konz, I thought he had a chance).

But don't you think it's obvious in hindsight that (1) the 49ers didn't consider OL a big need, (2) they didn't have DeCastro or Konz graded as highly as most of us (for that matter, none of the NFL teams seemed to)?

Given (1) and (2), don't you think your grades are too low? You're projecting your own draft crush (DeCastro) onto what you think the 49ers should have done, but the 49ers did exactly what they set out to do. It's not like they botched their plan. They just didn't want the guys that we wanted them to want...

Great post. I completely agree with you. I think this draft was outstanding.
Great Job D-Money

Love the grades.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by Janitor:
Warnings are being handed out, bannings will follow soon so knock it off.

What happened?

monsterzero789 said his draft analysis blows cock like always. I'd say that would suffice for a warning
Thanks MD.

Don't necessarily agree w/you but I always appreciate your input.

Hope to prove you wrong.
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by Janitor:
Warnings are being handed out, bannings will follow soon so knock it off.

What happened?

monsterzero789 said his draft analysis blows cock like always. I'd say that would suffice for a warning

Before you call for warnings on others I suggest you remember that STFU is generally considered warnable.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Yeah, I agree about Jenkins, not necessarily the grade, but him being a #2. I think he would be an excellent #3 with Crabtree being our #2. Hence, we still need to get a #1. Maybe, next year with all our picks we can do something.

I just have the feeling the FO and coaching staff looks at Jenkins and thinks they can use him like the Panthers have used Steve Smith, whom he resembles in terms of measurables (height/weight/speed/etc.). Although AJ probably has the larger hands.
If memory serves, last years draft got a similar if not even more damning review.
I think people put too much weight on the "value" of these picks. Almost every mock I saw, people had us trading back and acquiring more picks. This isn't to say that they are worthless, however, there is a reason others are trying to trade up. The reason are the players. OP is calling the Jenkins pick an F because of the value. To the 49ers, the value was appropriate (and clearly this sentiment was echoed by the Rams). In three years, if the pick pans out, nobody is going to care where this guy was taken, or if the 49ers should have traded back. If there is a player you want, you grab him. It is that simple.
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by Janitor:
Warnings are being handed out, bannings will follow soon so knock it off.

What happened?

monsterzero789 said his draft analysis blows cock like always. I'd say that would suffice for a warning

Before you call for warnings on others I suggest you remember that STFU is generally considered warnable.


i wasnt calling for a warning I was just letting AB83 know that I thought what monster said is what Janitor is referring to