Originally posted by AmpLee:
BS. I'm disagreeing with him. I'm still allowed to do that, right?
no but the interchange in the last page is done nothing more than to provoke MD IMO
Its not about exchanging opinions IMO
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Originally posted by AmpLee:
BS. I'm disagreeing with him. I'm still allowed to do that, right?
Originally posted by Amir:both amp and maddog were arguing their points respectively. both posted their views, opinions and facts without any name calling.
what's the problem??
Originally posted by AmpLee:Originally posted by English:Lets turn down the heat in here. When it gets personal, things get unpleasant. I don't care how right you think you are and how wrong the other guy is.
Stop.
Calm down. No one stepped over the line and a post hasn't been made since yesterday. No need to remind others of your presence.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Maddog gets a F for his evaluation of the 2011 draft. He gave the Niners a C-. Sorry but any draft that got Kaep and Aldon Smith is an A+. Two of the most dynamic and explosive young players in the NFL right now.
Would you take my 2012 draft class over Baalke's?
Originally posted by Amir:both amp and maddog were arguing their points respectively. both posted their views, opinions and facts without any name calling.
what's the problem??
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:Im talking about the 2011 draft class. And I wouldnt take yours.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Im talking about the 2011 draft class. And I wouldnt take yours.
I get that you wouldn't take my 2011 draft over Baalke's. How about the 2012 draft? Would you rather have:
Jenkins, James, Looney, Slowey, Robinson, Fleming, Johnson
OR
Peter Konz, Mohamed Sanu, Brandon Thompson, Malik Jackson, Vick Ballard, Antonio Allen, Darrius Brooks
Originally posted by Pillbusta:I for one enjoy the insight MadDog and I think that you were dead on in some instances BUT as of today I kind of like Baalke's 2011 draft and I can only wish he has more like it. 2012 was a bummer but I do think we sort of paid some of the draft capital forward to 2013 where we potentially may have had a pretty good draft. Like the old saying "you get what you pay for". I see that for 2014 we have significant draft capital as well and I expect us to have a chance to do really well again. Keep doing what you do because without it things would be dull around here. You do a hell of a lot better than I would at this!
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Here is a copy of my 2011 draft that was in a draft redo thread:
1- JJ Watt, DE, Wisconsin Simply the best player on the board at the time. Since Franklin appears to be leaving, moving Soap to NT would necessitate a new DE to take over right away.
2- Rodney Hudson, G/C, Florida State I think Hudson is the best OL in the entire draft, and is a starter at guard or center.
3- Curtis Brown, CB, Texas The team needs a cover corner, and Brown has size and speed.
4- Jordan Todman, RB, UConn I graded Todman just slightly over Hunter, who I really like as well. Both are great value picks at this point.
4- Marcus Cannon, G, TCU Since the Niners have a second fourth rounder, this can be a luxury pick. I'd burn it on a risk. Cannon is a starter at guard some time in the future if he can survive cancer and regain his strength. Worth the risk in the fourth round.
5- Tyrod Taylor, QB, Virginia Tech The Niners need QB depth, and while no one expects Taylor to be a future starter, he can be a solid backup if the starter goes down for a short time.
6- Charles Clay, FB, Tulsa A FB who can run and catch the ball. Sounds like a WCO fullback to me.
6- Justin Rogers, CB, Richmond Team needs a second corner in this draft, and Rogers had a terrific career and offseason.
6- Jerrell Powe, NT, Mississippi Simply a backup, toilet clogger. Every 3-4 team needs one.
7- Ugo Chinasa, OLB, Oklahoma St Was not drafted, but a quick, strong guy who could develop into a nice role player
. 7- Jeron Johnson, S, Boise St Also not drafted, but a talented, fast guy who has a ton of experience.
7- Dane Sanzenbacher, WR, Ohio St Competition for Williams in the slot. Sanzenbacher was a seriously clutch WR for the Buckeyes. Cheers. [ Edited by MadDog49er on May 21, 2011 at 8:19 PM ]
Read more at http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/154846-you-could-redo-one-49ers-pick-would-take/#vrwqUZ324cIjUE6b.99
The only player not in the league after cuts is Chinasa.
1. Watt is a monster
2. Hudson starts at center for KC
3. Brown is a reserve CB but may be the best special teamer for the Steelers. Bit of a disappointment at CB
4. Todman backs up Drew-jones in Jax. Had a great preseason
4. Cannon fighting for starting RG spot with NE
5. Taylor backs up Flacco for Balt
6. Clay starting TE for Dolphins
6. Rogers might start for Buffalo in Week one at CB
6. Powe is reserve DT
7. Chinasa out of league
7. Johnson top reserve safety for Seahawks and special teams star
7. Sanzenbacher made the cut for the Bengals at WR.
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Excellent overall draft class (might have 4 or 5 opening day starters this year) with depth (5 of my 6 players in the 6th and 7th rounders still in the league and on a 53 man roster...this is nearly impossible in year 3) made spectacular with Watt, who may be the best player in the game. Baalke had a great draft. People can debate which group they like better, although it is still early in everyone's career to make a final grade.
Originally posted by joey82:
If you are going to give a guy s**t when he gets it wrong you can at least give him props when he gets it right. He was right on N. Davis, Rachal and Mays just for example.
I appreciate the time you put into this draft to share your thoughts and I realize that your opinions are just that opinions.
Originally posted by joey82:I'd take JJ Watt right there with Aldon. I don't see that you could knock someone for preferring Watt.
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Coming from the guy who wanted JJ Watt over Aldon Smith, yeah, lost your credibility a long time ago. D's and F's for the first 2 picks? lmao
If you are going to give a guy s**t when he gets it wrong you can at least give him props when he gets it right. He was right on N. Davis, Rachal and Mays just for example.
I appreciate the time you put into this draft to share your thoughts and I realize that your opinions are just that opinions.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:Sure. Any of us could have done better than Baalke did in 2012. I know I was unhappy when Jenkins and James were our first 2 picks. It was simply a bad draft. But, 2010 and 2011 are wins for Baalke and I think 2013 will be as well.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I get that you wouldn't take my 2011 draft over Baalke's. How about the 2012 draft? Would you rather have:
Jenkins, James, Looney, Slowey, Robinson, Fleming, Johnson
OR
Peter Konz, Mohamed Sanu, Brandon Thompson, Malik Jackson, Vick Ballard, Antonio Allen, Darrius Brooks