Originally posted by MadDog49er:
You make a compelling argument with that.....One thread on Jenkins with a grand total of...33 posts. Overwhelming.
Tommy Streeter- 2 threads and 144 posts
Stephen Hill- 6 threads and more than 1000 posts
Rueben Randle- 3 threads with Nearly 300 posts
Marvin Jones- 3 threads
A combine Mohamed Sanu thread with 217 posts
Dwight Jones (undrafted)- 3 threads
Brian Quick- 2 threads
You are reaching at this point. But, let's get back to the subject. You argue strongly that the Niners' draft would be superior to mine, although you previously stated that you didn't know AJ Jenkins. As I stated, you want to see Jenkins succeed, as we all do, thus you grade him highly, post selection, and you state the weakness of other options with the pick. As I have stated, this is not an objective way to look into the draft. It appears that you would find whatever rational to defend any Niners pick, post-selection, regardless of the player (sub in Brian Quick or Stephen Hill or Rueben Randle or anyone).
Final note, you continue to state, deliberately, and in error, that I hate, dislike, object to, every Baalke selection. This is categorically false, and you know it, since you have read my review with numerous high grades in this draft as well as a final grade of a C+.
You said "happy hunting" to anyone looking for ANY support for Jenkins on this board before the draft. I simply point out that such support did exist. Now your only response is "its not really that much support." Bottom line is that you're wrong about all the fans on the board being mindless drones who are simply slaves to the Niner front office. Some guys liked Jenkins well before he was drafted. So much for the sweeping condemnation of all Niner fans on this board. Its simply not supported.
You're also wrong about your statement that I would try to "find whatever rational [rationale] to defend any Niners pick, post selection." I did not compare your "mock" to the Niners in order to defend
the Niner's. Baalke and Harbaugh don't need any help from me to defend themselves.
As I have repeatedly stated, my comparison was done to help understand, discuss and analyse what the Niners did in the draft. I really don't care what your "mock" opinion was--you don't field an actual team that I follow. Your mock just served as a foil, a means for comparison.
I did not grade the Niners draft either, or any of the players, Jenkins included. Such grades are pointless, IMO. The "C" you gave to Aldon Smith last year did not seem to slow him down much, or prevent him from accumulating 14 regular season sacks. Had you given him an "A" or an "F" the same would be true. Post draft grades are meaningless.
Its all too easy for someone to come up with a "mock" draft after
they've seen the Niner's selections, then post one that mimics their position picks in a different order and claim to have greater value. "I took a RG in the first, and got the explosive guy in the 5th, so I'm great an the Niners screwed up." No one knew they were even looking for explosive guys until they took them. Second guessing, and Monday morning quarterbacking; its not even very interesting.
Not as interesting, to me, as trying to figure out the thinking process that went into the Niners draft. Discussing with other Niner fans what occurred, who was selected, and why, maybe in the context of a comparison with someone's "mock" draft, helps analyse what might have gone on in the Niner's war room. Its likely as close as any of us will get to actually eavesdropping on Baalke and Harbaugh when they discuss a selection.
You are also wrong about my statement regarding Jenkins. I said I did not recognize him at first
, when he was initially announced as the Niner's selection. I was not expecting him, and it took me a minute to recall who he was. That doesn't mean I didn't know about him before the draft. In fact, I read the thread about him on this board, among other things, before the draft.
Finally, you are also wrong when you state that I "continue to state, deliberately and in error, that [you] dislike, hate and object to every Baalke selection." I have never stated that at all. Last year you went on the record as disliking Baalke's managment style and drafting strategy. You said you preferred more of a take charge, gambler type. I assumed that you continue to feel that way, especially in light of the fact that you give Baalke's #1 selection an F, not because of anything about the pick, Jenkins, but because you speculate that Baalke passed on a chance to trade up for DeCastro. The mythical missed "golden opportunity."
If you no longer have objections to Baalke's management style, you need to make it more clear. Obviously, you don't hate every one of his selections, given some of the very high (and very meaningless) grades you gave some of them this year. Robinson, Slowey, Cam Johnson, for example.
So, "down boy." Get over the amateur psychology about all Niner fans believing that every pick becomes a star when he's selected by the Niners. It may be true for a few, but there are alot of very, very knowledgeable football minds on this board, and they are more than capable of evaluating football talent, even if they are also Niner fans.
[ Edited by oldninerdude on May 5, 2012 at 11:05 PM ]