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The term "reach" and the irony of the webzone during draft time.

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Not that much of a reach, since the Rams were all over him. I had Jenkins going at 37, so it was in the neighborhood. I think the disappointment by many fans is that they saw better players on the board, and I agree with their sentiment (although Fleener was not amongst the short list)

Who cares what you and other disappointed fans think. Again, the experts are far more qualified to evaluate talent. And if at the very least the Niners and supposedly Rams coveted Jenkins as a top tier WR in the draft, who the hell are we to question that he isn't one? They are the ones with all the tape, all the time spent with the players, etc. Everything else is mere speculation. Is it easy to say that someone on the board will have a more productive NFL career than Jenkins? Of course, chances are there are many players on the board that go on to be more productive than the player chosen. It's the nature of the beast. But I tend to trust the evaluators over disgruntled fans and mock draft experts.

BTW, Aldon Smith was less of a reach going, only five or six spots later in most mock drafts last year, which we know you were such a fan of.
Just b/c you reach doesn't mean it's a bad thing. Just means you drafted a guy experts think was ranked lower than when you picked him. Doesn't mean the experts think the guy sucks or that your gm is stupid. These guys are ranked and based on college production. That's not a indication of the finished product they will become once they are coached up. People on message boards are just way to sensitive.

I think many on this site were just disappointed they didn't take Fleener or Hill. Which was expected b/c those 2 guys were fan favorites
The character and personality of a player is another aspect of evaluating players which the "experts" and fans don't really have access to. This can also cause reach accusations without full knowledge of the situation. Its possible the 49ers had Hill and Jenkins ranked similarly acording to game tape, but in talking with former coaches and the player themselves they thought Jenkins would be the better pick.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Not that much of a reach, since the Rams were all over him. I had Jenkins going at 37, so it was in the neighborhood. I think the disappointment by many fans is that they saw better players on the board, and I agree with their sentiment (although Fleener was not amongst the short list)

I think the disappointment by many fans is they bought into the OVER hyped players and when Jenkins was drafted, got their feathers ruffled when THEIR "expert" and best logical pick wasn't chosen....
Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Not that much of a reach, since the Rams were all over him. I had Jenkins going at 37, so it was in the neighborhood. I think the disappointment by many fans is that they saw better players on the board, and I agree with their sentiment (although Fleener was not amongst the short list)

Who cares what you and other disappointed fans think. Again, the experts are far more qualified to evaluate talent. And if at the very least the Niners and supposedly Rams coveted Jenkins as a top tier WR in the draft, who the hell are we to question that he isn't one? They are the ones with all the tape, all the time spent with the players, etc. Everything else is mere speculation. Is it easy to say that someone on the board will have a more productive NFL career than Jenkins? Of course, chances are there are many players on the board that go on to be more productive than the player chosen. It's the nature of the beast. But I tend to trust the evaluators over disgruntled fans and mock draft experts.

BTW, Aldon Smith was less of a reach going, only five or six spots later in most mock drafts last year, which we know you were such a fan of.

lol
Well we cant say the Hawks reached for Irvin now
Originally posted by jreff22:
Well we cant say the Hawks reached for Irvin now

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/at-least-seve-teams-had-bruce-irvin-in-top-15/

Character concerns can vary so much between teams that it creates very inconsistent grades for players with them. With the "experts" having such limited knowledge on that aspect it can definitely create a false impression of a reach.
Originally posted by natrone06:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Well we cant say the Hawks reached for Irvin now

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/at-least-seve-teams-had-bruce-irvin-in-top-15/

Character concerns can vary so much between teams that it creates very inconsistent grades for players with them. With the "experts" having such limited knowledge on that aspect it can definitely create a false impression of a reach.

Rob Rang ‏ @RobRang
Sources from multiple teams indicate WVU OLB Bruce Irvin would have been the Jets, Ravens and 49ers pick in first round if available to them