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OnTheClock's Big 253 Board - 4/18

Time is running out and predictions are starting to come into form here as we have just barely over a week before the 2012 NFL Draft. As always, let me state the multiple disclaimers you MUST READ before looking at this projection.

1) This is NOT a ranking

2) This is NOT a seven round mock. A mock outside of the first round is straight-up impossible because of the sheer volume of trades that occur.

3) This board projects the general slot area that I believe these players will fall. It may not be the exact spot, but the idea is to pinpoint the players value and likelihood of being selected in a general area or range.

**** I have bolded and specifically slotted players for the 49ers, but that is the only team I have done this for. ****

OTC Big 253 Board
2012 NFL Draft
Overall Player Position School
1 Andrew Luck* QB Stanford
2 Robert Griffin III* QB Baylor
3 Matt Kalil* OT USC
4 Justin Blackmon* WR Oklahoma State
5 Morris Claiborne* CB LSU
6 Trent Richardson* RB Alabama
7 Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame
8 Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M
9 Fletcher Cox* DT Mississippi State
10 Riley Reiff* OT Iowa
11 David DeCastro* OG Stanford
12 Quinton Coples DE UNC
13 Luke Kuechly* ILB Boston College
14 Cordy Glenn OG Georgia
15 Mark Barron S Alabama
16 Melvin Ingram DE/OLB South Carolina
17 Whitney Mercilus* DE Illinois
18 Stephon Gilmore* CB South Carolina
19 Jonathan Martin* OT Stanford
20 Michael Brockers** DT LSU
21 Dontari Poe* DT Memphis
22 Kendall Wright WR Baylor
23 Dre' Kirkpatrick* CB Alabama
24 Dont'a Hightower ILB Alabama
25 Lamar Miller** RB Miami
26 Stephen Hill* WR Georgia Tech
27 Jerel Worthy* DT Michigan State
28 Nick Perry* DE/OLB USC
29 Coby Fleener TE Stanford
30 Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin
31 Chandler Jones DE Syracuse
32 Mike Adams OT Ohio State
33 Janoris Jenkins CB North Alabama
34 Peter Konz* OC Wisconsin
35 Kendall Reyes DT Connecticut
36 Doug Martin RB Boise State
37 Rueben Randle* WR LSU
38 Bobby Massie* OT Mississippi
39 Bobby Wagner OLB Utah State
40 Alshon Jeffery* WR South Carolina
41 Josh Robinson* CB Central Florida
42 Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma State
43 Andre Branch DE/OLB Clemson
44 Brandon Thompson DT Clemson
45 Harrison Smith S Notre Dame
46 Devon Still DT Penn State
47 Mitchell Schwartz OT Cal
48 Courtney Upshaw DE/OLB Alabama
49 Ronnell Lewis* OLB Oklahoma
50 Amini Silatolu OG Midwestern State
51 Mohamed Sanu* WR Rutgers
52 Zach Brown OLB UNC
53 Kelechi Osemele OG Iowa State
54 David Wilson* RB Virginia Tech
55 Vinny Curry DE Marshall
56 Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska
57 Brandon Boykin CB Georgia
58 Mychal Kendricks ILB Cal
59 Shea McClellin OLB Boise State
60 Brandon Brooks OG Miami (Ohio)
61 Bruce Irvin OLB West Virginia
62 Chris Givens* WR Wake Forest
63 Dwayne Allen* TE Clemson
64 Lavonte David OLB Nebraska
65 Casey Hayward CB Vanderbilt
66 Markelle Martin S Oklahoma State
67 Jayron Hosley* CB Virginia Tech
68 Chris Polk* RB Washington
69 Brandon Washington* OG Miami
70 Zebrie Sanders OT Florida State
71 Jamell Fleming CB Oklahoma
72 Marvin Jones WR Cal
73 Ben Jones C/OG Georgia
74 Alameda Ta'amu NT Washington
75 Jared Crick DT/DE Nebraska
76 George Iloka S Boise State
77 Isaiah Pead RB Cincinnati
78 Mike Martin NT Michigan
79 Orson Charles* TE Georgia
80 Brock Osweiler* QB Arizona State
81 Dwight Bentley CB Louisiana-Lafayette
82 Demario Davis OLB Arkansas State
83 LaMichael James* RB Oregon
84 Tyrone Crawford DE Boise State
85 Josh Norman CB Coastal Carolina
86 Robert Turbin* RB Utah State
87 Nigel Bradham OLB Florida State
88 Brian Quick WR Appalachian State
89 Cam Johnson DE Virginia
90 Trumaine Johnson CB Montana
91 Brandon Mosley OT Auburn
92 Greg Childs WR Arkansas
93 Leonard Johnson CB Iowa State
94 Jarius Wright WR Arkansas
95 James Brown OG Troy
96 Tony Bergstrom OT/OG Utah
97 Michael Egnew TE Missouri
98 Kheeston Randall DT Texas
99 Jeff Allen OT/OG Illinois
100 Marcus Forston* DT Miami
101 Chase Minnifield CB Virginia
102 Josh Chapman DT Alabama
103 Ladarius Green TE Louisiana-Lafayette
104 Nick Toon WR Wisconsin
105 Jake Bequette DE Arkansas
106 Keenan Robinson OLB Texas
107 Kirk Cousins QB Michigan State
108 Shaun Prater CB Iowa
109 Antonio Allen S South Carolina
110 Chris Rainey RB Florida
111 Derek Wolfe DT Cincinnati
112 Juron Criner WR Arizona
113 Jonathan Massaquoi* DE/OLB Troy
114 James-Michael Johnson ILB Nevada
115 Billy Winn DT/DE Boise State
116 Tommy Streeter* WR Miami
117 Ronnie Hillman** RB San Diego State
118 Trevor Guyton DT/DE Cal
119 Bernard Pierce* RB Temple
120 Joe Adams WR Arkansas
121 Philip Blake OC Baylor
122 Trenton Robinson S Michigan State
123 Kyle Wilber OLB Wake Forest
124 A.J. Jenkins WR Illinois
125 DaJohn Harris DT/DE USC
126 Vick Ballard RB Mississippi State
127 Donald Stephenson OT Oklahoma
128 Mike Brewster OC Ohio State
129 Rishard Matthews WR Nevada
130 T.Y. Hilton WR Florida International
131 Tank Carder LB TCU
132 DeAngelo Peterson TE LSU
133 Coryell Judie CB Texas A&M
134 Aaron Henry S Wisconsin
135 Josh LeRibeus OG SMU
136 Andrew Datko OT Florida State
137 Cyrus Gray RB Texas A&M
138 Alex Hoffman-Ellis OLB Washington State
139 DeVier Posey WR Ohio State
140 Malik Jackson DE Tennessee
141 Joe Looney OG Wake Forest
142 Marvin McNutt WR Iowa
143 Josh Kaddu OLB Oregon
144 Omar Bolden CB Arizona State
145 Russell Wilson QB Wisconsin
146 Senio Kelemete OG Washington
147 Terrell Manning* OLB North Carolina State
148 Jaye Howard DT Florida
149 Travis Lewis OLB Oklahoma
150 Asa Jackson CB Cal Poly
151 Ryan Miller OG Colorado
152 Levy Adcock OT Oklahoma State
153 Emmanuel Acho OLB Texas
154 Kelcie McCray S Arkansas State
155 Devon Wylie WR Fresno State
156 Tauren Poole RB Tennessee
157 Sean Spence OLB Miami
158 Brandon Taylor S LSU
159 Nate Potter OT Boise State
160 Trevin Wade CB Arizona
161 Jerry Franklin ILB Arkansas
162 Brandon Hardin S Oregon State
163 Justin Bethel CB/S Presbyterian
164 Terrance Ganaway RB Baylor
165 Ron Brooks CB LSU
166 Junior Hemingway WR Michigan
167 Desmond Wynn OG Rutgers
168 James Hanna TE Oklahoma
169 Ryan Steed CB Furman
170 Rishaw Johnson OG California (PA)
171 Matt McCants OT UAB
172 Donnie Fletcher CB Boston College
173 Gerrell Robinson WR Arizona State
174 Evan Rodriguez FB Temple
175 Jeff Fuller WR Texas A&M
176 Michael Smith RB Utah State
177 Miles Burris OLB San Diego State
178 Tom Compton OT South Dakota
179 Bobby Rainey RB Western Kentucky
180 Keith Tandy CB West Virginia
181 Najee Good ILB West Virginia
182 Coty Sensabaugh CB Clemson
183 Akiem Hicks DT Regina
184 Nick Foles QB Arizona
185 Christian Thompson S South Carolina State
186 Emil Egwenagu FB Massachusetts
187 Lucas Nix OG Pittsburgh
188 Edwin Baker* RB Michigan State
189 Drake Dunsmore TE/FB Northwestern
190 Sammy Brown OLB Houston
191 Neiko Thorpe S Auburn
192 Audie Cole ILB North Carolina State
193 Hebron Fangupo DT BYU
194 Bryan Anger P Cal
195 Ryan Broyles WR Oklahoma
196 Chase Ford TE Miami
197 Jacquies Smith OLB Missouri
198 Eddie Whitley S Virginia Tech
199 Kashif Moore WR Connecticut
200 Micah Pellerin CB Hampton
201 Duke Ihenacho S San Jose State
202 Tim Fugger DE/OLB Vanderbilt
203 Taylor Thompson TE SMU
204 Rokevious Watkins OT/OG South Carolina
205 Dan Herron RB Ohio State
206 David Molk OC Michigan
207 Mike Harris CB Florida State
208 Danny Coale WR Virginia Tech
209 Matt Reynolds OT BYU
210 Quentin Saulsberry OC Mississippi State
211 T.J. Graham WR North Carolina State
212 Derrick Coleman FB UCLA
213 Sean Richardson S Vanderbilt
214 Olivier Vernon* DE Miami
215 Brett Roy DL Nevada
216 Eric Page* WR Toledo
217 Chris Greenwood CB Albion
218 Ryan Lindley QB San Diego State
219 Vaughn Meatoga DT Hawaii
220 Tavon Wilson S Illinois
221 Dwight Jones WR UNC
222 Ron Leary OG Memphis
223 Jordan Bernstine S Iowa
224 Ian Thomas ILB Illinois
225 Chris Owusu WR Stanford
226 Robert Golden CB/S Arizona
227 Eddie Pleasant S Oregon
228 Travis Benjamin WR Miami
229 Joe Holland OLB Purdue
230 Keshawn Martin WR Michigan State
231 Terrence Frederick CB Texas A&M
232 Rhett Ellison TE USC
233 Dale Moss WR South Dakota State
234 Rennie Moore DE Clemson
235 Case Keenum QB Houston
236 Braylon Broughton OLB TCU
237 DeShawn Shead S/CB Portland State
238 Isaiah Frey CB Nevada
239 Korey Toomer ILB Idaho
240 Brian Linthicum TE Michigan State
241 Derrius Brooks CB Western Kentucky
242 Markus Kuhn DT North Carolina State
243 Jewel Hampton* RB Southern Illinois
244 Chandler Burden OT Kentucky
245 Darius Fleming OLB Notre Dame
246 Travian Robertson DT South Carolina
247 Frank Alexander DE Oklahoma
248 Jaymes Brooks OG Virginia Tech
249 Ernest Owusu DE Cal
250 Louis Nzegwou DE/OLB Wisconsin
251 Don Barclay OT/OG West Virginia
252 Tim Benford WR Tennessee Tech
253 Marcus Dowtin ILB North Alabama
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Apr 17, 2012 at 10:28 PM ]
Like all but if we take A receiver at 199 i would take Dale Moss of South Dakota St.
Although the two open starting positions are on offense, I agree with you that the Niners will go defense with the second pick. Baalke and Harbaugh have mostly held to this balance in the past. What do you see in Greg Childs that would make him a good pick for the Niners? And why Zeitler over Konz?
[ Edited by Paul_Hofer on Apr 18, 2012 at 7:23 AM ]
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Originally posted by rafachivas12:
Like all but if we take A receiver at 199 i would take Dale Moss of South Dakota St.

its not a mock these are just the players who are conveniently valued at the same # we pick.
A lot of hard work, will be interesting to see how your big board compares to the final. From past drafts you are pretty good.

I think Konz has to be over Zeitler, I would put a premium on a player who plays center and guards.

If this was the draft and assuming you could not trade down.
1. Rueben Randle WR LSU- I think he will be one of the best WR's in this draft.
2. Shea McLellin OLB Boise State
3. Billy Winn DE Boise State
4. Seno Kelemete OG Washington
5. Ron Brooks CB LSU
6. Duke -Safety san jose state
7. Korey toomer ILB idaho.

The last three picks are developmental players that would need to play Special teams to make the team.
I hope to post two more boards, one today and one next week on Tuesday or Wednesday. Thanks for the effort, and let the games begin. Really beginning to form firm convictions on most players.
Are we going to get your opinions of what the Niners draft board looks like? Baalke implied such when he stated today that the Niners are looking for players that about half of the draft is looking for. That list must have some Niner parameters about it so it would be interesting to see it and speculate from a list of fewer players.
[ Edited by Ninefan56 on Apr 18, 2012 at 2:18 PM ]
Just curious what do you guys (OTC and Maddog) use to form opinions on these players ?
What are your thoughts on Mike Brewster? Does he have versatility to play Guard or does he project to be strictly a center?
Originally posted by susweel:
Just curious what do you guys (OTC and Maddog) use to form opinions on these players ?

me too
Originally posted by susweel:
Just curious what do you guys (OTC and Maddog) use to form opinions on these players ?

nickbradley threads
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I hope to post two more boards, one today and one next week on Tuesday or Wednesday. Thanks for the effort, and let the games begin. Really beginning to form firm convictions on most players.

can you post a top 10 at each position that would fit the 9ers
Based on your board:

1st - Zietler - nails a major need for us
2nd - Chris Givens - gives us a speedster who can be a a down the field threat.
3rd - Michael Egnew - Gives us a pass catching TE to develop. He will need time to develop strength and blocking, but could definately be used in Harbaugh's system as a 2nd TE
4th - Michael Brewster - I'd love to add another interior lineman for depth, possibly take over Center down the road
5th - Ron Brooks - super athletic corner to develop
6th - Hebron Fangopu - NT to develop
7th - DeShawn Shead - special teams player
Originally posted by susweel:
Just curious what do you guys (OTC and Maddog) use to form opinions on these players ?

Both OTC and I watch a lot of games. I DVR a lot of games to isolate players in review. Don't read much in publications for my BPA boards. Often form strong opinions based on post season weeks of practice, and some field drills at combine. I am a firm believer in footwork as a strong sign of someone's ability to play well at the next level, but also like watching initial reaction off the snap. Look at specifics in games, practices, combine drills. Does WR round out routes, or does he break down and pivot toward sidelines without leaning or rounding route. Guys like Sanu and Joe Adams (neither burners in forty times) create separation by clean route running. Look at catch radius for WR's. Can they snatch the ball from extended position.

For talent at LB and S, really look for initial step off the ball. It is what separates a player like Taylor Mays from Ed Reed. Very high on LB Bobby Wagner long before the studly Pro-Day due to first step off the snap. Just puts himself in position to make plays.

For edge defenders, really looking at ten yard split, not forty yard times. Two best this year at combine: Bruce Irvin and Andre Branch (way undervalued).

To me, these are a tiny fraction of the things I use to grade players and how I think they will play at the next level.
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
What are your thoughts on Mike Brewster? Does he have versatility to play Guard or does he project to be strictly a center?

OTC knows my thoughts on him, as I believe I have seen every snap in his OSU career: Wildly overrated as a prospect, but we are seeing a projection now that is far more realistic (5th, 6th rounds) than from a year ago.

Gets beat way too much and in horrible times. He might be best suited to move to guard, but to me, I have him as the sixth best center in this draft and seventh round/priority free agent value.