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DRAFT RESULTS 2005-2011

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Some drafts we hit it big and others were just miserable.

05
1 1 Alex Smith QB Utah
2 33 David Baas G Michigan
3 65 Frank Gore RB Miami (Fla.)
3 94 Adam Snyder T Oregon
5 137 Ronald Fields DT Mississippi State
5 174 Rasheed Marshall WR West Virginia
6 205 Derrick Johnson CB Washington
7 215 Daven Holly DB Cincinnati
7 223 Marcus Maxwell WR Oregon
7 248 Patrick Estes T Virginia
7 249 Billy Bajema TE Oklahoma State

**Very Top Heavy. Smith was not worth a #1, but then again if we flipped Alex and Rogers, whould everyone say we missed on Smith? Discussion for another thread. Baas and Snyder are servicable OL and Gore was the gem. Its a wasteland after. Even though we missed on so many picks, it gets even worse below**

06
1 6 Vernon Davis TE Maryland
1 22 Manny Lawson OLB North Carolina State
3 84 Brandon Williams WR Wisconsin
4 100 Michael Robinson RB Penn State
5 140 Parys Haralson DE Tennessee
6 175 Delanie Walker TE Central Missouri State
6 192 Marcus Hudson DB North Carolina State
6 197 Melvin Oliver DE Louisiana State
7 254 Vickiel Vaughn DB Arkansas

**Vern has been our best passing weapon since he was drafted. Lawson was a big disappointment. Haralson and Walker are serviceable. The rest were a waste. Very average draft**

07
1 11 Patrick Willis ILB Mississippi
1 28 Joe Staley OT Central Michigan
3 76 Jason Hill WR Washington State
3 97 Ray McDonald DE Florida
4 104 Jay Moore LB Nebraska
4 126 Dashon Goldson SAF Washington
4 135 Joe Cohen DT Florida
5 147 Tarell Brown CB Texas
6 186 Thomas Clayton RB Kansas State

**BY FAR..our best draft since 05. 5 Probowl level players and an All Pro. We had 8 picks in the first 5 rounds and made them count**

08
1 29 Kentwan Balmer DE North Carolina
2 39 Chilo Rachal G USC
3 75 Reggie Smith DB Oklahoma
4 107 Cody Wallace C Texas A&M
6 174 Josh Morgan WR Virginia Tech
7 214 Larry Grant OLB Ohio State

**BY FAR our worst draft since 05. What a waste of a year when Morgan is the best player by a large margin**

09
1 10 Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
3 74 Glen Coffee RB Alabama
5 146 Scott McKillop LB Pittsburgh
5 171 Nate Davis QB Ball State
6 184 Bear Pascoe TE Fresno State
7 219 Curtis Taylor DB Louisiana State
7 244 Ricky Jean-Francois DT Louisiana State

**2nd worst draft since 05. Crabtree has underwhelmed and RJF is the 2nd best as a backup**

10
1 11 Anthony Davis T Rutgers
1 17 Mike Iupati G Idaho
2 49 Taylor Mays SS USC
3 91 NaVorro Bowman LB Penn State
6 173 Anthony Dixon RB Mississippi State
6 182 Nate Byham TE Pittsburgh
6 206 Kyle Williams WR Arizona State
7 224 Phillip Adams DB South Carolina State

**This is when Baalke started taking over and it showed after the s**t shows the previous two years. Davis and Iupati may be our best two OL in 2012, Bowman made the All Pro team in his first year. We will never know if it REALLY was Mad Mike who pushed for Mays, but that was a big wiff. Other than that, the rest of the roster all contributed this year other than Adams and Byham who suffered injuries**

11
1 7 Aldon Smith LB Missouri
2 36 Colin Kaepernick QB Nevada-Reno
3 80 Chris Culliver DB South Carolina
4 115 Kendall Hunter RB Oklahoma State
5 163 Daniel Kilgore G Appalachian State
6 182 Ronald Johnson WR USC
6 190 Colin Jones DB Texas Christian
7 211 Bruce Miller RB Central Florida
7 239 Mike Person G Montana State
7 250 Curtis Holcomb DB Florida A&M

**NOW WERE TALKIN! The grade on this draft is still incomplete until another year or so when we can see what Kaepernick, Kilgore, Person and Holcomb can provide, but man, just 12 month removed from this draft, it looks like the best in the league BY FAR! MAJOR contributions from Aldon, Culliver, Hunter and Miller. Plus Jones helped out on ST. One of these picks doesn't fit though. I remember reading that our WR coach pushed for Ronald Johnson. Funny how the two publicized cases of "Non Baalke Picks" are both not on the roster in the 1st year.**

Hopefully in year 3 of Baalke and year 2 of Jimbo, we can hit again this year! If we get a draft in 2012 like we did in 2011 or 2010........

The futures so brighhhhhtttttt.....
"best draft since 05..."

"worst draft since 05.. "

Originally posted by YungAce:
"best draft since 05..."

"worst draft since 05.. "


What no good? lol I had to stop at 05, wasnt going to go back any further. I didnt mean compared to 05, since 05
[ Edited by DRUSTOPO on Apr 10, 2012 at 4:05 PM ]
I looked up a month or so ago and have posted it but one thing that stands out to me is Baalke has hit twice in 2 drafts in the third round. Which is as much as the previous 10 drafts.

2010: Bowman, 2011: Culliver

2000: Giovanni Carmazzi, 2001: Kevan Barlow, 2002: Saleem Rasheed, 2003: Andrew Williams, 2004: Derrick Hamilton, 2005: Frank Gore, Adam Snyder, 2006: Brandon Williams, 2007: Ray McDonald, Jason Hill, 2008: Reggie Smith, 2009: Glenn Coffee

And if anyone wants to look at our entire draft history it's here. Just change decades at the top.
http://www.49erswebzone.com/php/alltimedraft/index.php?decade=2010
[ Edited by Gore_21 on Apr 10, 2012 at 4:10 PM ]
Wow talk about some of the dark ages. The 2008 draft in particular, it was like we drafted a natural disaster to set us back 5 more years, That has to be one of the most horrible and straight up abysmal drafts in Niners history. Its like Mccloughan was getting pointers from Matt Millen. To think we almost didnt get P-52 in 2007 and Singlebraincell didnt want him .
[ Edited by Kaz9er on Apr 10, 2012 at 4:13 PM ]
Originally posted by Gore_21:
I looked up a month or so ago and have posted it but one thing that stands out to me is Baalke has hit twice in 2 drafts in the third round. Which is as much as the previous 10 drafts.

2010: Bowman, 2011: Culliver

2000: Giovanni Carmazzi, 2001: Kevan Barlow, 2002: Saleem Rasheed, 2003: Andrew Williams, 2004: Derrick Hamilton, 2005: Frank Gore, Adam Snyder, 2006: Brandon Williams, 2007: Ray McDonald, Jason Hill, 2008: Reggie Smith, 2009: Glenn Coffee

And if anyone wants to look at our entire draft history it's here. Just change decades at the top.
http://www.49erswebzone.com/php/alltimedraft/index.php?decade=2010

Kevin Barlow and Saleem Rasheed...two names I thought I would never hear again! haha, thanks Gore!
Originally posted by Kaz9er:
Wow talk about some of the dark ages. The 2008 draft in particular, it was like we drafted a natural disaster to set us back 5 more years, That has to be one of the most horrible and straight up abysmal drafts in Niners history. Its like Mccloughan was getting pointers from Matt Millen. To think we almost didnt get P-52 in 2007 and Singlebraincell didnt want him .

Seriously, that may be one of the worst drafts in the league over the past 10 years. Cant imagine a cupboard more barren.
I was tempted to argue that 2009 was a worse draft than 2008. In '08 Larry Grant was a nice pick in the 7th round and Morgan is/was a very good WR in the 5th. One could make the case that Morgan is a better WR than Crabtree, whom we took in the 1st round ahead of Jeremy Maclin, Hakim Nicks, and Michael Oher.

However, looking at the players that we passed up in the late first/early second to select Balmer and Rachal ... it makes me a little sick:

Brandon Flowers, Eddie Royal, DeSean Jackson, Matt Forte, Ray Rice, Calais Campbell, Jamaal Charles, Jordy Nelson, Jermichael Finley ... Ugh.
Originally posted by midrdan:
I was tempted to argue that 2009 was a worse draft than 2008. In '08 Larry Grant was a nice pick in the 7th round and Morgan is/was a very good WR in the 5th. One could make the case that Morgan is a better WR than Crabtree, whom we took in the 1st round ahead of Jeremy Maclin, Hakim Nicks, and Michael Oher.

However, looking at the players that we passed up in the late first/early second to select Balmer and Rachal ... it makes me a little sick:

Brandon Flowers, Eddie Royal, DeSean Jackson, Matt Forte, Ray Rice, Calais Campbell, Jamaal Charles, Jordy Nelson, Jermichael Finley ... Ugh.

JESUS....I think if you put up a large draft board in a room full of Chimps and you had them throw sh!t at it, they could have done better.

As far as Crabtree, I think we were all set to pick Oher until Al Davis shocked the world with DHB, thanks Al!!! What an @ss My brother is a Raiders fan and started kicking things when that pick was made...lol At the time I was thrilled with stealing Crabtree, but he's just such a p*ssy. Maybe he'll actually make it through an offseason program this year.
Originally posted by Gore_21:
I looked up a month or so ago and have posted it but one thing that stands out to me is Baalke has hit twice in 2 drafts in the third round. Which is as much as the previous 10 drafts.

2010: Bowman, 2011: Culliver

2000: Giovanni Carmazzi, 2001: Kevan Barlow, 2002: Saleem Rasheed, 2003: Andrew Williams, 2004: Derrick Hamilton, 2005: Frank Gore, Adam Snyder, 2006: Brandon Williams, 2007: Ray McDonald, Jason Hill, 2008: Reggie Smith, 2009: Glenn Coffee

And if anyone wants to look at our entire draft history it's here. Just change decades at the top.
http://www.49erswebzone.com/php/alltimedraft/index.php?decade=2010

Damn. I remember watching every draft from 2000-2011, when I really got into watching the draft every year. Carmamzzi is a local guy here in NY, went to Hofstra, hoped he would turn out. That was one of Bill Walsh's last drafts. 2001, Barlow was a good pick for a few years, till Gore got here.

03- A.Williams, 04- Hamilton, 06- B.Williams make me want to puke. Coffee in 09 makes me also wanna puke, guy quit on us. Reggie Smith was a good player in college, but shouldn't of been a 3rd rd guy.

07 was our best draft in the past 10 years. 5 Starters(McDonald, Staley, Brown, Willis and Goldson).

2010 and 2011 will turn out good too. Davis/Iupati/Bowman in 2010 is a nice trio, with Aldon/Culliver/Hunter/Miller and potentially Kilgore as all contributers in 2012, plus Jones on STs. In 2 years Baalke has done what McCloughan and Donahue couldn't do. Get players with talent, worth the pick and played up to the pick.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Damn. I remember watching every draft from 2000-2011, when I really got into watching the draft every year. Carmamzzi is a local guy here in NY, went to Hofstra, hoped he would turn out. That was one of Bill Walsh's last drafts. 2001, Barlow was a good pick for a few years, till Gore got here.

03- A.Williams, 04- Hamilton, 06- B.Williams make me want to puke. Coffee in 09 makes me also wanna puke, guy quit on us. Reggie Smith was a good player in college, but shouldn't of been a 3rd rd guy.

07 was our best draft in the past 10 years. 5 Starters(McDonald, Staley, Brown, Willis and Goldson).

2010 and 2011 will turn out good too. Davis/Iupati/Bowman in 2010 is a nice trio, with Aldon/Culliver/Hunter/Miller and potentially Kilgore as all contributers in 2012, plus Jones on STs. In 2 years Baalke has done what McCloughan and Donahue couldn't do. Get players with talent, worth the pick and played up to the pick.

Damn it feels good to have real football people steering the ship, what a difference. You're from NY AB? I'm from North Jersey, by Morristown. Im going to the 49ers/Jets game this year with my other buddy who's a 9ers fan. Let me know if you end up going.
With all of the speculation about our first round pick, I'm really interested with what we do with the later round picks. This is where Baalke has truly shined. To be able to consistently get contributors in the lower rounds is what allows you to have some actual depth, which is what will set you up to be good for years to come.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
With all of the speculation about our first round pick, I'm really interested with what we do with the later round picks. This is where Baalke has truly shined. To be able to consistently get contributors in the lower rounds is what allows you to have some actual depth, which is what will set you up to be good for years to come.

Indeed, thats what all the good teams do. Those organizations feast on their weaker counterparts in the later parts of the draft. Its one of the reasons why teams like the Pats and Steelers have been good for such a long time ( that and having franchise QB's ). NO during the Sean Payton era have killed the draft after the big boys were off the board=

Jiimmy Graham - 3rd round
Jermon Bushrod - 4th round
Carl Nick - 5th round
Jahri Evans - 4th round
Colston - 7th round
If you make an NFL roster at 5th round and above, the minimum grade is "C-".

05
1 1 Alex Smith QB Utah -- No grade (don't want to debate it)
2 33 David Baas G Michigan -- B+ (effective NFL starter)
3 65 Frank Gore RB Miami (Fla.) -- A+
3 94 Adam Snyder T Oregon -- B+ (very valuable backup at every position, signed as a starter with another team)
5 137 Ronald Fields DT Mississippi State -- B+ (Made roster, effective rotational player for several years in the league)
5 174 Rasheed Marshall WR West Virginia -- C- (Made roster, but always looked out of place at WR)
6 205 Derrick Johnson CB Washington -- B (A good contributor as a 4th corner for a year or two)
7 215 Daven Holly DB Cincinnati -- A (Started for the Browns after they signed him off our practice squad.)
7 223 Marcus Maxwell WR Oregon -- B (Hung around on our practice squad for a while, could not take the next step)
7 248 Patrick Estes T Virginia -- B (Made our roster I believe for one or two years?)
7 249 Billy Bajema TE Oklahoma State -- A+ (A player in the league)


06
1 6 Vernon Davis TE Maryland -- A (Has always been a little raw, despite epic athleticism)
1 22 Manny Lawson OLB North Carolina State -- B (Good player at everything except what we drafted him to do)
3 84 Brandon Williams WR Wisconsin -- D (He had some moments, but wasn't very effective)
4 100 Michael Robinson RB Penn State -- B (Great special teams player, teammate, and role player)
5 140 Parys Haralson DE Tennessee -- A- (Has been a starter, and a solid NFL player when you consider where he was drafted)
6 175 Delanie Walker TE Central Missouri State -- A (A good TE, great athlete, does lots of things. A poor mans Vernon Davis, living in his shadow)
6 192 Marcus Hudson DB North Carolina State -- B (A good contributor for several years)
6 197 Melvin Oliver DE Louisiana State -- B+ (Got a lot of playing time for us for a couple years)
7 254 Vickiel Vaughn DB Arkansas -- C (Had talent, but was lost in the shuffle. Had the injury bug)


07
1 11 Patrick Willis ILB Mississippi -- A+
1 28 Joe Staley OT Central Michigan -- A- (Not elite, but recognized by his peers as a pro-bowler)
3 76 Jason Hill WR Washington State -- C- (Still in the league. Not sure what happened with him)
3 97 Ray McDonald DE Florida -- A+ (A darn good player, in Justin Smith's shadow)
4 104 Jay Moore LB Nebraska -- No grade (Always injured. We could never even evaluate him)
4 126 Dashon Goldson SAF Washington -- A+ (Fourth round. Pro Bowl. Great pick)
4 135 Joe Cohen DT Florida -- F (Never did anything, nor flash any ability)
5 147 Tarell Brown CB Texas -- A- (A solid starter in the fifth round)
6 186 Thomas Clayton RB Kansas State -- B (Showed plenty of ability. But injuries derailed his career)


08
1 29 Kentwan Balmer DE North Carolina -- D- (Is he still in the league? If not, change it to an "F")
2 39 Chilo Rachal G USC -- D+ (Just can't pass block. Which makes him unplayable)
3 75 Reggie Smith DB Oklahoma -- B- (Solid but unspectacular)
4 107 Cody Wallace C Texas A&M -- D (We needed a backup center, he stuck around for a few years)
6 174 Josh Morgan WR Virginia Tech -- A+ (Great pick in the sixth round)
7 214 Larry Grant OLB Ohio State -- A (Great pick in the seventh round)

Flip that draft upside down and it makes more sense.


09
1 10 Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech -- No grade (His ability is intertwined with the Smith debate. Don't want to debate it)
3 74 Glen Coffee RB Alabama -- D (We should have researched this guy more)
5 146 Scott McKillop LB Pittsburgh -- C (Meh)
5 171 Nate Davis QB Ball State -- No grade (Don't want to debate it)
6 184 Bear Pascoe TE Fresno State -- A (Lots of playing time on the Super Bowl champions team)
7 219 Curtis Taylor DB Louisiana State -- B (Hung around with us for a while. Not a bad 7th round pick)
7 244 Ricky Jean-Francois DT Louisiana State -- A+ (An excellent backup for a 7th round pick)


10
1 11 Anthony Davis T Rutgers -- B (Young, raw and improving)
1 17 Mike Iupati G Idaho -- A (A powerful, great, athletic player)
2 49 Taylor Mays SS USC -- D+ (He still has a chance)
3 91 NaVorro Bowman LB Penn State -- A+ (Out-of-this-world athlete. Arguably outperformed Willis last year)
6 173 Anthony Dixon RB Mississippi State -- B (Solid contributor and special teams player)
6 182 Nate Byham TE Pittsburgh -- B (A good blocking TE with some ability. Hurt last year)
6 206 Kyle Williams WR Arizona State -- A- (Great pick in the 6th round)
7 224 Phillip Adams DB South Carolina State -- B (Made the roster and contributed for a year)


11
1 7 Aldon Smith LB Missouri -- A+
2 36 Colin Kaepernick QB Nevada-Reno -- No grade (Don't want to debate, and we don't know enough yet)
3 80 Chris Culliver DB South Carolina -- A (A very talented player)
4 115 Kendall Hunter RB Oklahoma State -- A (Another very talented player)
5 163 Daniel Kilgore G Appalachian State -- B (Haven't seen him play a whole lot yet)
6 182 Ronald Johnson WR USC -- F (We needed WR's, but he didn't even make the practice squad, which is kind of amazing because he had good worth ethic, character and no injuries)
6 190 Colin Jones DB Texas Christian -- B+ (Becoming a special teams player-maker)
7 211 Bruce Miller RB Central Florida -- A+ (How on earth did we pull this off?)
7 239 Mike Person G Montana State -- No grade (Don't know enough yet)
7 250 Curtis Holcomb DB Florida A&M -- No grade (Don't know enough yet)



For the last couple years, I've said we are one of the most talented teams in the league. Now, there is no more doubt about that. We still have some issues to debate however. Hopefully those debates will be settled sooner rather than later.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Damn. I remember watching every draft from 2000-2011, when I really got into watching the draft every year. Carmamzzi is a local guy here in NY, went to Hofstra, hoped he would turn out. That was one of Bill Walsh's last drafts. 2001, Barlow was a good pick for a few years, till Gore got here.

03- A.Williams, 04- Hamilton, 06- B.Williams make me want to puke. Coffee in 09 makes me also wanna puke, guy quit on us. Reggie Smith was a good player in college, but shouldn't of been a 3rd rd guy.

07 was our best draft in the past 10 years. 5 Starters(McDonald, Staley, Brown, Willis and Goldson).

2010 and 2011 will turn out good too. Davis/Iupati/Bowman in 2010 is a nice trio, with Aldon/Culliver/Hunter/Miller and potentially Kilgore as all contributers in 2012, plus Jones on STs. In 2 years Baalke has done what McCloughan and Donahue couldn't do. Get players with talent, worth the pick and played up to the pick.

Off topic, do you have a mock on here AB? I wanna see how a non bay area draft guy places Fleener.