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We could theoretically get Luck without sucking...
Sep 10, 2011 at 7:17 PM
- SanDiego49er
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LOL. What? We can't get him unless we go 0 - 16 which we could do.
Sep 10, 2011 at 8:51 PM
- 49erAddict
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Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
My top 5 terrible teams this season (in no particular order):
Carolina Panthers
Cincinnati Bengals
Miami Dolphins
Washington Redskins
Arizona Cardinals
I'd actually take out Arizona and put Seattle there. They can't be serious if Carroll is trying to get everyone to believe they can make the playoffs with Jackson and Whitehurst at QB. Lofa Tatupu was the only one Gore had to worry about on Seattle's defense, now he has no worries.
True true. You can make a case for both teams. IMO, I think the Cardinals are going to have a rude awakening when they notice that Kolb isn't the answer. It also doesn't help that their top running backs are all injury prone. Their defense is also very old and they lost their top corner.
You also make a good point bout their running game, their defense isn't scary either, same as Seattle even with Patrick Peterson, now if they kept DRC then its a different story. But after thinking about it more, I'd take out Miami and switch them for Seattle, their offense will be much more decent outta the teams mentioned, and Nolan is a pretty good DC, that has more than enough tools to work with.If I had to guess:
Redskins with the top pick
Cincy with the second.
Carolina with the third.
Seattle fourth.
Arizona fifth.
Bills sixth.
Broncos seventh.
Miami eight.
Raiders ninth.
?????? I can't decide.
I'll agree with that. Simple fix: Peterson is in AZ, not Seattle
Originally posted by Kolohe:49ers pick last
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
My top 5 terrible teams this season (in no particular order):
Carolina Panthers
Cincinnati Bengals
Miami Dolphins
Washington Redskins
Arizona Cardinals
I'd actually take out Arizona and put Seattle there. They can't be serious if Carroll is trying to get everyone to believe they can make the playoffs with Jackson and Whitehurst at QB. Lofa Tatupu was the only one Gore had to worry about on Seattle's defense, now he has no worries.
True true. You can make a case for both teams. IMO, I think the Cardinals are going to have a rude awakening when they notice that Kolb isn't the answer. It also doesn't help that their top running backs are all injury prone. Their defense is also very old and they lost their top corner.
You also make a good point bout their running game, their defense isn't scary either, same as Seattle even with Patrick Peterson, now if they kept DRC then its a different story. But after thinking about it more, I'd take out Miami and switch them for Seattle, their offense will be much more decent outta the teams mentioned, and Nolan is a pretty good DC, that has more than enough tools to work with.If I had to guess:
Redskins with the top pick
Cincy with the second.
Carolina with the third.
Seattle fourth.
Arizona fifth.
Bills sixth.
Broncos seventh.
Miami eight.
Raiders ninth.
?????? I can't decide.
Sep 10, 2011 at 9:35 PM
- Willisfn4life
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Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:
Not a chance that would do it. Luck is a once in a generation type of prospect. The Falcons gave that up to move up to 6, when there was no franchise qb on the board. We would need to give up a player like Patrick Willis or Vernon Davis in addition to 2 first round picks. Teams are crazy over franchise qb's and to land the best qb prospect since Peyton Manning, you will pay heavily. To be honest, 2 first round picks are pretty negligible given how we've spent them. I'd give up 2 firsts and VD in a second. We could trade our 2nd in 2012 for a first in 2013, and only really miss a beat in one draft by not having a 1st or 2nd in 2012.
I never understood this. Every year there is some prospect that comes out that people say is the best at his position in a decade and every once in awhile it's true. The quarterback position though, we could do the list of twenty or more prospects that were the next montana's and it never materialized. Does Luck look great, absolutely. However giving up two first rounders and perhaps a mid round choice is enough for somebody that has never stepped foot on a NFL field. But, to throw a proven player in too that is on the cusp of possibly becoming the best in the NFL at his position and is one of the true leaders of our team is absurd. Vernon Davis is probably the most atheletic freak in the game for somebody his size and a true difference maker. Somebody that can take over a game for your offense and I would never give that up for a college player not even Andrew Luck.
Sep 10, 2011 at 9:49 PM
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Here's to Luck getting injured Harbaugh drafting him late in the first round.......
I joke, kind of....
I joke, kind of....
Sep 10, 2011 at 11:30 PM
- noblood
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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Here's to Luck getting injured Harbaugh drafting him late in the first round.......
I joke, kind of....
if he got hurt he would still go number 1
Sep 11, 2011 at 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by btthepunk:
I dont think Carolina will pick in the top 5.
They had a good offseason. Cam Newton will make a difference. Steve Smith and Deangelo Williams will be back. They added Greg Olsen and Jeremy Shockey. I say 6-10 at worst 8-8 at best.
Carolina will have a top 5, if not a top 2 pick. Book it.
Sep 11, 2011 at 12:34 AM
- FredFlintstone
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Originally posted by TexasNiner:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
I dont think Carolina will pick in the top 5.
They had a good offseason. Cam Newton will make a difference. Steve Smith and Deangelo Williams will be back. They added Greg Olsen and Jeremy Shockey. I say 6-10 at worst 8-8 at best.
Carolina will have a top 5, if not a top 2 pick. Book it.
with those players carolina has they still will get their ass beat by an average cardinals team, carolina will be picking top 5 unless newton wins rookie of the yr
Sep 11, 2011 at 1:29 AM
- TheGoldDiggerrrr
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Originally posted by noblood:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Here's to Luck getting injured Harbaugh drafting him late in the first round.......
I joke, kind of....
if he got hurt he would still go number 1
Unless he's a total head case like ryan leaf he will be the 1.
Sep 13, 2011 at 7:04 PM
- 49ersGiantspride
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so no one sees Luck's stock dropping? Manning stayed but he had the same coach. Im not saying he wont be picked first but with Jones and Barkley as well as others he has competition. Not to mention despite the wins Luck and Stanford dont look as dominant as the score would dictate. Its just a thought.
Sep 13, 2011 at 7:50 PM
- DaveWilcox
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The Seattle Seahawks devised an eloborate plan to be the worst team in the league this season, thus ensuring they will win the Luck sweepstakes.
Sep 13, 2011 at 8:41 PM
- YungAce
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or Luck could just blow this season
Sep 13, 2011 at 10:01 PM
- jreff22
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we wont get him, I just hope he goes to the AFC
Sep 13, 2011 at 10:43 PM
- BETTERDAYZ9ERS
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I can see Luck sitting behind Peyton Manning for a year now that there's a rookie wage scale.
Sep 14, 2011 at 1:57 AM
- DonnieDarko
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Pete Carroll + Andrew Luck for the next 12 years, deal with it.
Sep 14, 2011 at 10:53 AM
- English
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:Pete Carroll + Andrew Luck for the next 12 years, deal with it.
Carroll wont last twelve years in Seattle.