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Draft Grades are stupid... Here is mine

The Good:

-Baalke isn't buying Scotty's philosophy that every player must come from the SEC. We clearly did our HW and drafted a number of players from small schools and lesser conferences.

-Colin Kaepernik. Anyone saying he isn't a good fit for the WCO is an idiot. Can we at least give Harbaugh the respect to assume he knows which QB fits his offense?!? Smart, hard working, with a phenomenal arm (2nd best in this class), and unmatched mobility. Far better athlete than even Cam Newton. I can't express in words how excited I am to have Harbaugh coach this guy to be the next 49er signal caller!

-Hunter. We actually got a back with some speed? Will not only help this team, but will also prolong Gore's career. Great value!

-Addressing O-line with later round picks. This is a good place to draft O-line. Tons of talent found later in the draft.

-The GM, not owner/fans/media made the 1st pick. You may not love Aldon Smith, but you can't argue that this was a thoughtless pick. The team went against expectation, and that means research went in, rather than conforming to popular opinion.

The Bad

- where the F*** is D-line help? If Franklin and McDonald leave via FA, we will literally have 3 lineman. 2 of them not of starting quality. We will Perdue very aggressively in FA I hope

- all the players we missed. Meracic could have been our 3rd Rd pick. He's worth it. Passed on Rickly Elmore in the 7th... Would of been a steal!

- last pick is a throw away. Too much CB depth. We need starters, not backups. Won't make the team. Why not try the QB Harbaugh likes? Give him the playbook early.

- too much projection. Smith and Kap are raw. Who the F* is Culliver? OTs are converting inside, and haven't exactly played outside much. A kid was drafted to play a position he's never played in his life. Hunter is the only one ready to step I'm right away. I don't mind projections, but almost every pick is a gamble!

Overall grade? In progress... I'll know by year's end..
good analysis
good synopsis

The more film I watch of Aldon Smith, the more I wonder why WEREN'T we talking about this guy as our pick!?! He looks great and his skill set should immediate help 3rd down situations.

Colin Kaepernick is a great pick, and whether or not you can handle having Alex Smith be the interim QB is immaterial. Harbaugh obviously likes him and I wouldn't be surprised if Smith put up ~90 QB rating this year. That would get us to the playoffs and would set the foundation for Kaepernick in the future.

Kendall Hunter should be an exciting change of pass back to complement Gore.

Overall, I'm impressed with Baalke, this is two years in a row that he gets the players he wants and slowly but surely building this team up.
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Overall grade? In progress... I'll know by year's end..

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
good synopsis

The more film I watch of Aldon Smith, the more I wonder why WEREN'T we talking about this guy as our pick!?! He looks great and his skill set should immediate help 3rd down situations.

Colin Kaepernick is a great pick, and whether or not you can handle having Alex Smith be the interim QB is immaterial. Harbaugh obviously likes him and I wouldn't be surprised if Smith put up ~90 QB rating this year. That would get us to the playoffs and would set the foundation for Kaepernick in the future.

Kendall Hunter should be an exciting change of pass back to complement Gore.

Overall, I'm impressed with Baalke, this is two years in a row that he gets the players he wants and slowly but surely building this team up.

I think he'll be fine. Don't see him as Ware, but I think he'll have an impact on the game. I think he'll get into the starting line-up early. If he's good he'll also help Brooks or Gibson or Haralson. But Kaep is the prize of the draft for us!
  • Walsh
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I like your comments. Culliver may end up competing with Mays at safety. Mays looked a little lost last season. Also, he may turn out to be a good return man with his speed.

Besides, the FB we drafted last year looks like he's got potential and the way we run things with Vernon and D Walker out there, it's not like FB sees a lot of play time.

I don't love the pick but it doesn't make me as crazy as everyone else on this board. I still have nightmares of Roman in our backfield. Never again Thanks.
Originally posted by Walsh:
I like your comments. Culliver may end up competing with Mays at safety. Mays looked a little lost last season. Also, he may turn out to be a good return man with his speed.

Besides, the FB we drafted last year looks like he's got potential and the way we run things with Vernon and D Walker out there, it's not like FB sees a lot of play time.

I don't love the pick but it doesn't make me as crazy as everyone else on this board. I still have nightmares of Roman in our backfield. Never again Thanks.

I don't want to put to much into Mays' "being lost last year". That was the knock on him coming into the draft and with the previous coaching regime I would bet my house he did not get the proper coaching, of course, the lockout period does not help his cause. I do agrre culliver should be a good returner but why spend a 3rd rounded on that, isn't that supossed to be the reason we got Ted Ginn?
Originally posted by boriken_9er:
Originally posted by Walsh:
I like your comments. Culliver may end up competing with Mays at safety. Mays looked a little lost last season. Also, he may turn out to be a good return man with his speed.

Besides, the FB we drafted last year looks like he's got potential and the way we run things with Vernon and D Walker out there, it's not like FB sees a lot of play time.

I don't love the pick but it doesn't make me as crazy as everyone else on this board. I still have nightmares of Roman in our backfield. Never again Thanks.

I don't want to put to much into Mays' "being lost last year". That was the knock on him coming into the draft and with the previous coaching regime I would bet my house he did not get the proper coaching, of course, the lockout period does not help his cause. I do agrre culliver should be a good returner but why spend a 3rd rounded on that, isn't that supossed to be the reason we got Ted Ginn?

Several things lead me to believe that Baalke never wanted Mays, and that the pick was the first major Baalke/Singletary disagreement.
Originally posted by boriken_9er:
Originally posted by Walsh:
I like your comments. Culliver may end up competing with Mays at safety. Mays looked a little lost last season. Also, he may turn out to be a good return man with his speed.

Besides, the FB we drafted last year looks like he's got potential and the way we run things with Vernon and D Walker out there, it's not like FB sees a lot of play time.

I don't love the pick but it doesn't make me as crazy as everyone else on this board. I still have nightmares of Roman in our backfield. Never again Thanks.

I don't want to put to much into Mays' "being lost last year". That was the knock on him coming into the draft and with the previous coaching regime I would bet my house he did not get the proper coaching, of course, the lockout period does not help his cause. I do agrre culliver should be a good returner but why spend a 3rd rounded on that, isn't that supossed to be the reason we got Ted Ginn?

There's also a good chance that Ginn will be on the way out soon, since he's more tuned to a Coryell vertical offense than a West Coast system. (i.e. blazing speed, but not the best hands and not the cleanest routes)

I must be one of the only folks on the board who don't have heartburn over the Culliver pick. Vic Fangio runs a 3-4 zone blitz system ... zone coverage and the ability to read plays are more important than being able to stick onto a guy in tight man coverage. The system is all about hurrying QB throws into moving coverages to generate turnovers.

Both the Smith and Culliver picks contribute to this philosophy.
Originally posted by Next9erDynasty:
Originally posted by boriken_9er:
Originally posted by Walsh:
I like your comments. Culliver may end up competing with Mays at safety. Mays looked a little lost last season. Also, he may turn out to be a good return man with his speed.

Besides, the FB we drafted last year looks like he's got potential and the way we run things with Vernon and D Walker out there, it's not like FB sees a lot of play time.

I don't love the pick but it doesn't make me as crazy as everyone else on this board. I still have nightmares of Roman in our backfield. Never again Thanks.

I don't want to put to much into Mays' "being lost last year". That was the knock on him coming into the draft and with the previous coaching regime I would bet my house he did not get the proper coaching, of course, the lockout period does not help his cause. I do agrre culliver should be a good returner but why spend a 3rd rounded on that, isn't that supossed to be the reason we got Ted Ginn?

There's also a good chance that Ginn will be on the way out soon, since he's more tuned to a Coryell vertical offense than a West Coast system. (i.e. blazing speed, but not the best hands and not the cleanest routes)

I must be one of the only folks on the board who don't have heartburn over the Culliver pick. Vic Fangio runs a 3-4 zone blitz system ... zone coverage and the ability to read plays are more important than being able to stick onto a guy in tight man coverage. The system is all about hurrying QB throws into moving coverages to generate turnovers.

Both the Smith and Culliver picks contribute to this philosophy.

Culliver is a HSW guy, his biggest flaw is instincts... That doesn't bode well for the zone blitz scheme
They wanted Mays. Just they didn't want the people who coached him last year. Where are they now?
Originally posted by Next9erDynasty:
Originally posted by boriken_9er:
Originally posted by Walsh:
I like your comments. Culliver may end up competing with Mays at safety. Mays looked a little lost last season. Also, he may turn out to be a good return man with his speed.

Besides, the FB we drafted last year looks like he's got potential and the way we run things with Vernon and D Walker out there, it's not like FB sees a lot of play time.

I don't love the pick but it doesn't make me as crazy as everyone else on this board. I still have nightmares of Roman in our backfield. Never again Thanks.

I don't want to put to much into Mays' "being lost last year". That was the knock on him coming into the draft and with the previous coaching regime I would bet my house he did not get the proper coaching, of course, the lockout period does not help his cause. I do agrre culliver should be a good returner but why spend a 3rd rounded on that, isn't that supossed to be the reason we got Ted Ginn?

There's also a good chance that Ginn will be on the way out soon, since he's more tuned to a Coryell vertical offense than a West Coast system. (i.e. blazing speed, but not the best hands and not the cleanest routes)

I must be one of the only folks on the board who don't have heartburn over the Culliver pick. Vic Fangio runs a 3-4 zone blitz system ... zone coverage and the ability to read plays are more important than being able to stick onto a guy in tight man coverage. The system is all about hurrying QB throws into moving coverages to generate turnovers.

Both the Smith and Culliver picks contribute to this philosophy.

Didn't think about that until you brought that up.
  • Ring6
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great analysis. After reading, I'm thinking that Aubrayo will almost certainly be back.
Originally posted by Negrodamus:
Quote:
Overall grade? In progress... I'll know by year's end..


Yeah....

Be bold!!!!!!

Make a forecast NOW! - when it is not clear - always easier a year later to be accurate.

.... but I agree with most of your comments. Good analysis!!!!
Originally posted by socal9er42:
Originally posted by Negrodamus:
Quote:
Overall grade? In progress... I'll know by year's end..


Yeah....

Be bold!!!!!!

Make a forecast NOW! - when it is not clear - always easier a year later to be accurate.

.... but I agree with most of your comments. Good analysis!!!!

I can make guesses, but to call them grades is just rude. People did work and research, and made a hypothesis (picking a player is essentially the hypothesis that he'll be a good fit). Then casual fans and moron "experts" on ESPN give them grades w/o having even 1/10th of the knowledge. Give me a break! At the end of the day if CK is a franchise QB the rest goes out the window. Who else did the Colts draft the year they picked Manning? Who else did the pats get the year they drafted Brady? Who cares?!? Grade for both those drafts: A+. If Kaep is legit this draft is an A, and I believe he will be.
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