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Kiper's and McShay's final draft grades

mel kiper and mcshay didnt exactly kill it with their projections. they both missed more than 2 thirds of the picks in the 1st round. f**k them both if theyre hatin. i think we got some great players in this draft and some really intriguing later round guys.
To satisfy all the naysayers and "Draft guru/geniuses", why don't they just let Mel Kiper rank the players and divvy them out in draft order. That way we don't have to hear the "our draft sucked", "our front office blew it", whining. We can all blame Mel instead.

Plus it would make trades more fun if owners had to get in a ring and fight for the position.
Originally posted by susweel:
After this draft and last year its clear that Baalke does not know how to work the draft. He reaches constantly through out the draft, hopefully his players turn out to be good or he's gonna look really bad.

wtf was wrong with last years draft


we got two starters on our line, who played pretty well with despite our retarded offensive style.

Dixon looks good, Mays needs to be coached a bit
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SI_PeterKing Peter King

RT @storm8_24: How do you grade the chiefs on the draft? ... I don't grade teams after draft. Fruitless exercise.

SI_PeterKing Peter King

RT @jordoncooper: How come? Everyone else seems to be big into draft grades? ... I can't grade a third-round guard I've never seen.
Originally posted by ads_2006:
Originally posted by susweel:
After this draft and last year its clear that Baalke does not know how to work the draft. He reaches constantly through out the draft, hopefully his players turn out to be good or he's gonna look really bad.

wtf was wrong with last years draft


we got two starters on our line, who played pretty well with despite our retarded offensive style.

Dixon looks good, Mays needs to be coached a bit

Mays was a terrible pick, it was a fanbase-pleaser but retarded.
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Originally posted by ads_2006:
Originally posted by susweel:
After this draft and last year its clear that Baalke does not know how to work the draft. He reaches constantly through out the draft, hopefully his players turn out to be good or he's gonna look really bad.

wtf was wrong with last years draft


we got two starters on our line, who played pretty well with despite our retarded offensive style.

Dixon looks good, Mays needs to be coached a bit

Mays was a terrible pick, it was a fanbase-pleaser but retarded.

So you are saying he is a bust because he didn't play well in his ROOKIE season? That makes no sense whatsoever. You probably would have given up on Jerry and Merton Hanks too after their unspectacular rookie seasons. I'm not saying the guy is gonna be great but he is too talented to not be at least a solid safety. Judge him after the next 2-3 seasons in the same defensive system.
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Originally posted by ads_2006:
Originally posted by susweel:
After this draft and last year its clear that Baalke does not know how to work the draft. He reaches constantly through out the draft, hopefully his players turn out to be good or he's gonna look really bad.

wtf was wrong with last years draft


we got two starters on our line, who played pretty well with despite our retarded offensive style.

Dixon looks good, Mays needs to be coached a bit

Mays was a terrible pick, it was a fanbase-pleaser but retarded.

Only other cb was arenas in that area. It was a need pick and most people said Mays needed to be coached properly.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Quote:
SI_PeterKing Peter King

RT @storm8_24: How do you grade the chiefs on the draft? ... I don't grade teams after draft. Fruitless exercise.

SI_PeterKing Peter King

RT @jordoncooper: How come? Everyone else seems to be big into draft grades? ... I can't grade a third-round guard I've never seen.

For once, I agree with the giant douche.
Originally posted by ads_2006:
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Originally posted by ads_2006:
Originally posted by susweel:
After this draft and last year its clear that Baalke does not know how to work the draft. He reaches constantly through out the draft, hopefully his players turn out to be good or he's gonna look really bad.

wtf was wrong with last years draft


we got two starters on our line, who played pretty well with despite our retarded offensive style.

Dixon looks good, Mays needs to be coached a bit

Mays was a terrible pick, it was a fanbase-pleaser but retarded.

Only other cb was arenas in that area. It was a need pick and most people said Mays needed to be coached properly.

Morgan Burnett.
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Kiper gave us a C+. Says it was a little reach on Smith, but he would have not lasted much past 7. Said it was a reach on Colin but gives Harbaugh something to work with in developing his QB.

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Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Theres no such thing as a draft grade until at least a year after the draft, imo

THIS! If history has taught us anything, it's that "sure things" often fail, and "sleepers" abound. There will always be draft braintrusts who feel they know something all the other teams don't and they go for little touted players, or guys way ahead of their predicted slots. On the other hand, we have the armchair GM's who feel they know more than the professionals and are aghast at the picks! The sky is falling and the Apocalyse is nigh! Sound familiar? Well, guess what? No one really knows and they won't for some time to come. Maybe a year; maybe more. Sure, you have some players who will be immediate successes, but there will be many more who may take a while to develop, then watch out!! And, there are so many variables that will come into play.......from the initial talent of the player, to his work ethic, to his actual "ceiling", to coaching, to just how much time he's given before being thrown into the mix.... it goes on. So, have patience and let's see what transpires!
We sometimes forget too that these grades are solely based on their production in college, the systems they came from, the supporting cast they had (e.g. Lawson), coaching, etc. So many great players have probably gone to poor teams and so many average players have gone to great teams who get the most out of them.

When looking at this draft, it was clear each position coach got a new payer to develop. If this was Nolan or Singletary, how would we feel? But now that we have Harbaugh and this talented coaching staff that already has continuity together, in the same systems, how do you feel about our draft?

I bet most feel, like Baalke, we will get the best out of these guys and they will give us 100%. These guys should fit our systems well too and all fill huge needs!
Originally posted by susweel:
After this draft and last year its clear that Baalke does not know how to work the draft. He reaches constantly through out the draft, hopefully his players turn out to be good or he's gonna look really bad.


if the player is pretty much the BPA and someone else right behind you would take that player with a couple picks its not a reach
Originally posted by susweel:
After this draft and last year its clear that Baalke does not know how to work the draft. He reaches constantly through out the draft, hopefully his players turn out to be good or he's gonna look really bad.

No, I think what this draft proves is that the Niners have different criteria for evaluating players than most so-called NFL experts do.

They place a high priority on character, on a "team first" attitude, and guys who truly love the game. In other words, they value guys who may not be the most talented or highly rated but who work hard to develop their skills and eventually become better players.

Obviously, they also have a tremendous amount of confidence in their coaching staff to identify the types of guys they like and then to develop them into effective players. Bill Walsh had the same type of approach as a matter of fact, and Dwight Clark was the poster child of just such a player.

It is certainly a different way of drafting than most teams do. The only other team that has drafted this way in the past few years is New England. They tend to draft versatile, under the radar players who fit their system. It has certainly worked for the Patriots. Let's hope it does for the Niners.

Cheers!
Pretty accurate breakdown from Mel.