Time to reset (round 2 and beyond)

Originally posted by JDeezy:
He's asking who you want next.....in the second I'd say Dalton is the only QB I'd consider. Others to consider Aaron Williams, Ras-I Dowling, Paea, Allen Bailey, Hankerson, Greg Little............of those I'd take Aaron Williams or Dalton.

Aaron Williams
Ras-I Dowling
Paea

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by World:
So round 1 is in the books. Pick 45 is on the way. Given who the Niners took in Round 1, and who is left on the board, who would you like to see them take in Round 2?

Personally I'd like to see either Ras-I Dowling or Dalton/Stanzi. My personal preference would be Stanzi, but if they think they can wait on him now that the rush is pretty much over on QB's and steal Dowling first, I'm all for it. I just hate to gamble too much, get too greedy, and lose out on the QB that Harbaugh wants. There is enough depth at CB this year, that I think they should take the QB this round and there will likely be a good CB waiting for them in Round 3. (Davon House, Aaron Williams, Chimde Chekwa, Ras-I Dowling are all still on the board at this point).

I also would not be shocked to see them go after another pass rusher, though maybe not in round 2. But if a guy like Brooks Reed, or even better, Justin Houston, were to still be available in Round 3, I could see them going that way again.

In the later rounds with all of those extra picks, I could see going for a NT like Fua/Powe, a WR like Kris Durham/Ricardo Lockette/Greg Little, and another CB like Chris Culliver/Byron Maxwell, a RB like Taiwan Jones, and finally another QB like Adam Froman or Greg McElroy.

I have this feeling that Harbaugh is not all that interested in any of the QBs this year. Sure, he may pick one but my take on Harbaugh is that he recognizes how poorly this team has been coached and is more likely to give Alex Smith, and other players a chance to get the proper coaching they have never had rather than draft a guy to replace them and toss them on the junk heap.

I agree that Baalke may grab yet another pass rusher before tomorrow night is through is there is value there. This team will be much better with two solid pass rushers than a "just because" QB.

Maybe Bowers will slip. That would be such a steal.

Originally posted by juycho:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by World:
So round 1 is in the books. Pick 45 is on the way. Given who the Niners took in Round 1, and who is left on the board, who would you like to see them take in Round 2?

Personally I'd like to see either Ras-I Dowling or Dalton/Stanzi. My personal preference would be Stanzi, but if they think they can wait on him now that the rush is pretty much over on QB's and steal Dowling first, I'm all for it. I just hate to gamble too much, get too greedy, and lose out on the QB that Harbaugh wants. There is enough depth at CB this year, that I think they should take the QB this round and there will likely be a good CB waiting for them in Round 3. (Davon House, Aaron Williams, Chimde Chekwa, Ras-I Dowling are all still on the board at this point).

I also would not be shocked to see them go after another pass rusher, though maybe not in round 2. But if a guy like Brooks Reed, or even better, Justin Houston, were to still be available in Round 3, I could see them going that way again.

In the later rounds with all of those extra picks, I could see going for a NT like Fua/Powe, a WR like Kris Durham/Ricardo Lockette/Greg Little, and another CB like Chris Culliver/Byron Maxwell, a RB like Taiwan Jones, and finally another QB like Adam Froman or Greg McElroy.

I have this feeling that Harbaugh is not all that interested in any of the QBs this year. Sure, he may pick one but my take on Harbaugh is that he recognizes how poorly this team has been coached and is more likely to give Alex Smith, and other players a chance to get the proper coaching they have never had rather than draft a guy to replace them and toss them on the junk heap.

I agree that Baalke may grab yet another pass rusher before tomorrow night is through is there is value there. This team will be much better with two solid pass rushers than a "just because" QB.

Maybe Bowers will slip. That would be such a steal.

Where do you play him?

Originally posted by Gore_21:
Nice list...

Dalton
Stanzi
Aaron Williams
Ras-I Dowling
Fua
Powe
Kris Durham
Ricardo Lockette - really like this guy
Greg Little - really like this guy
Taiwan Jones
Greg McElroy
Vincent Brown
Stanford guys - Marecic, Keiser, Sherman, Fua

I say stand put or trade down... lots of good guys left at 45 for starters... We will see with 76.

lots of good names there pal. I like alot of them, especially Jones, and the Stanford kids.

Originally posted by juycho:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by World:
So round 1 is in the books. Pick 45 is on the way. Given who the Niners took in Round 1, and who is left on the board, who would you like to see them take in Round 2?

Personally I'd like to see either Ras-I Dowling or Dalton/Stanzi. My personal preference would be Stanzi, but if they think they can wait on him now that the rush is pretty much over on QB's and steal Dowling first, I'm all for it. I just hate to gamble too much, get too greedy, and lose out on the QB that Harbaugh wants. There is enough depth at CB this year, that I think they should take the QB this round and there will likely be a good CB waiting for them in Round 3. (Davon House, Aaron Williams, Chimde Chekwa, Ras-I Dowling are all still on the board at this point).

I also would not be shocked to see them go after another pass rusher, though maybe not in round 2. But if a guy like Brooks Reed, or even better, Justin Houston, were to still be available in Round 3, I could see them going that way again.

In the later rounds with all of those extra picks, I could see going for a NT like Fua/Powe, a WR like Kris Durham/Ricardo Lockette/Greg Little, and another CB like Chris Culliver/Byron Maxwell, a RB like Taiwan Jones, and finally another QB like Adam Froman or Greg McElroy.

I have this feeling that Harbaugh is not all that interested in any of the QBs this year. Sure, he may pick one but my take on Harbaugh is that he recognizes how poorly this team has been coached and is more likely to give Alex Smith, and other players a chance to get the proper coaching they have never had rather than draft a guy to replace them and toss them on the junk heap.

I agree that Baalke may grab yet another pass rusher before tomorrow night is through is there is value there. This team will be much better with two solid pass rushers than a "just because" QB.

Maybe Bowers will slip. That would be such a steal.

Major health issues plus he doesn't really fit the system.

Greg Little, Titus Young, Ryan Mallett, Andy Dalton, Aaron William, Ryan Williams... there's still a lot of talent on the board.

Package it with a late pick and trade for a 2012 1st, if the opportunity is there.

Trading back for Hankerson, K. Ellis, Paea, a CB...


Should be fun to watch.

I would say Paea or Austin. get tougher on the dline. CB and QB might come through free agency. Stanzi or TJ yates might be an eventually QB pick. I wouldn't be shocked if Harbs get his speedy RB today though, maybe Jones...

Alot of very good talent left over from Rd. 1.

I think we go Paea if he's still there.

Round 3 = a cb (lots of good ones in this draft and one should fall to us)

Originally posted by rk1642:
Alot of very good talent left over from Rd. 1.

I think we go Paea if he's still there.

Round 3 = a cb (lots of good ones in this draft and one should fall to us)

You can never have too many pass rushers.

I think I see the QB strategy, go with Alex Smith this year and go 1-15 and then we can get Luck next year. Losing another year in developing our future QB ugggggh.

That or he has his eye on Dalton/Kap and thinks they will be available the 13th pick today (I don't think so).

Round 2 board for me:

QB: Colin Kaepernick, Andy Dalton
CB: Ras-I Dowling,
DE/NT: Marvin Austin
FS: Rahim Moore

If all are gone, please trade down and get a late 2nd and 3rd for our #45. There will a few players in the #55 to #90 range that will help us greatly at QB/DT/CB/RB

Id like to trade a pick for Josh Johnson or Kolb.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Id like to trade a pick for Josh Johnson or Kolb.

Sure we can spare a 5th rounder for Kolb or a 6th for JJ.

My three favorite QB's are still on the board. Mallet, Kapearnick, Stanzi.

The first two will not be there at #45. IMO they are both special and will prove better than all of the first rounders. I am not holding out much hope of the Niners working a trade to get either though (something the Raiders, actually, might pull off).

Just the Niners persistent talk on the subject of QB's tends to make me feel that they don't view this area of concern as one that they need to critically addreess through the draft. This is a HUGH dissappointment to me and IMO will set back development in this area another year.

For reference the following is a breakdown of the best of the rest from MadDog's 4/22 big board (the number before the pick indicates the slot where MadDog slotted the pick, so obviously if we pick a player with a higher slot value than the pick itself, it's a solid value pick... If you want you can do what I do and input these into excel with a column next to it for the pick number to track players/picks and have a better idea for who will fall to which picks. Once a player is picked, delete from the pick and player column accordingly. It gives you a much better idea for the value that is falling and gets you even more excited when another team reaches on a player thus dropping value to the niners pick. I will try and keep this up to date throughout the day for everyone to follow....Enjoy!




Pick Player (with MD Ranking)
33 15 Andy Dalton TCU QB
34 20 Da'Quan Bowers Clemson DE
35 30 Akeem Ayers UCLA OLB
36 33 Colin Kaepernick Nevada QB
37 34 Marvin Austin North Carolina DT
38 35 Torrey Smith Maryland WR
39 36 Mikel LeShoure Illinois RB
40 37 Aaron Williams Texas CB
41 38 Kyle Rudolph Notre Dame TE
42 39 Ryan Mallett Arkansas QB
43 41 Stephen Paea Oregon St DT
44 42 Brooks Reed Arizona DE
45 44 Ben Ijalana Villanova OT/OG
46 45 Randall Cobb Kentucky WR
47 46 Greg Little North Carolina WR
48 47 Titus Young Boise St WR
49 48 Martez Wilson Illinois LB
50 49 Ryan Williams Virginia Tech RB
51 50 Brandon Harris Miami CB
52 51 Bruce Carter North Carolina LB
53 52 Ras-I Dowling Virginia CB
54 53 Allen Bailey Miami DE
55 55 Jabaal Sheard Pittsburgh DE
56 56 Rahim Moore UCLA S
57 57 Will Rackley Lehigh G
58 58 Mason Foster Washington OLB
59 59 Rodney Hudson Florida State G/C
60 60 Taiwan Jones Eastern Washington RB
61 61 Daniel Thomas Kansas St RB
62 62 Jerrel Jernigan Troy WR
63 63 Kenrick Ellis Hampton DT
64 64 Drake Nevis LSU DT
65 65 Leonard Hankerson Miami WR
66 66 Edmond Gates Abilene Christian WR
67 67 Jarvis Jenkins Clemson DT
68 68 Kendall Hunter Oklahoma St RB
69 69 Dontay Moch Nevada OLB
70 70 Davon House New Mexico St. CB
71 71 Marcus Gilchrist Clemson CB
72 72 Jordan Todman Connecticut RB
73 73 Curtis Brown Texas CB
74 74 Marcus Gilbert Florida OT
75 75 Justin Houston Georgia OLB
76 76 Sam Acho Texas DE
77 77 Ricky Stanzi Iowa QB
78 78 James Brewer Indiana G/OT
79 79 Jaiquawn Jarrett Temple S
80 80 Chris Culliver South Carolina S
81 81 Lance Kendricks Wisconsin TE
82 82 DeMarco Murray Oklahoma RB
83 83 Chris Carter Fresno St OLB
84 84 Orlando Franklin Miami G/OT
85 85 Terrell McClain South Florida DT
86 86 Christian Ballard Iowa DE
87 87 Curtis Marsh Utah St CB
88 88 Marcus Cannon TCU OT/OG
89 89 Quinton Carter Oklahoma S
90 90 Lawrence Guy Arizona St DT
91 91 Stefen Wisniewski Penn State C
92 92 Quan Sturdivant North Carolina LB
93 93 Clint Boling Georgia G
94 94 Jordan Cameron USC TE
95 95 Tandon Doss Indiana WR
96 96 DJ Williams Arkansas TE
97 97 Tyler Sash Iowa S
98 98 Jurrell Casey USC DT
99 99 Rashad Carmichael Virginia Tech CB
100 100 Julius Thomas Portland St TE
101 101 Johnny Patrick Louisville CB
102 102 Richard Sherman Stanford CB
103 103 Jason Pinkston Pittsburgh G/OT
104 104 Austin Pettis Boise St WR
105 105 Shareece Wright USC CB
106 106 Dion Lewis Pittsburgh RB
107 107 John Moffitt Wisconsin G/C
108 108 Jerrell Powe Mississippi DT
109 109 Derrick Locke Kentucky RB
110 110 Alex Green Hawaii RB
111 111 Jacquizz Rodgers Oregon St RB
112 112 Colin McCarthy Miami ILB
113 113 Ian Williams Notre Dame DT
114 114 Virgil Green Nevada TE
115 115 Roy Helu Nebraska RB
116 116 Buster Skrine Chattanooga CB
117 117 Chris Conte Cal S
118 119 Luke Stocker Tennessee TE
119 119 Da'Rel Scott Maryland RB
120 120 DeAndre McDaniel Clemson S
121 121 Nate Irving NC State LB
122 122 Deleone Carter Syracuse RB
123 123 Shane Vereen Cal RB
124 124 DeMarcus Van Dyke Miami CB
125 125 Byron Stingily Lousville OT
126 126 Jalil Brown Colorado CB
127 127 Jeron Johnson Boise St S
128 128 Korey Lindsey-Woods Southern Illinois CB
129 129 KJ Wright Mississippi St OLB
130 130 Sione Fua Stanford DT
131 131 Cecil Shorts III Mount Union WR
132 132 Chimdi Chekwa Ohio State CB
133 133 Greg Salas Hawaii WR
134 134 Brandon Burton Utah CB
135 135 Owen Marecic Stanford FB
136 136 Aldrick Robinson SMU WR
137 137 Kelvin Sheppard LSU ILB
138 138 Stephen Burton West Texas A&M WR
139 139 Greg Jones Michigan St LB
140 140 Lawrence Wilson Connecticut OLB
141 141 Tyrod Taylor Virginia Tech QB
142 142 Charles Clay Tulsa FB
143 143 Ugo Chinasa Oklahoma St DE
144 144 Justin Rogers Richmond CB
145 145 Joe Lefeged Rutgers S
146 146 Terrance Tolliver LSU WR
147 147 Robert Sands West Virginia S
148 148 Josh Thomas Buffalo CB
149 149 David Carter UCLA DE/DT
150 150 Ronald Johnson USC WR
151 151 Jah Reid Central Florida OT
152 152 Mario Fannin Auburn RB
153 153 Rob Housler Florida Atlantic TE
154 154 Deunta Williams North Carolina S
155 155 Tim Barnes Missouri C
156 156 Stephen Schilling Michigan G
157 157 Niles Paul Nebraska WR
158 158 Ricardo Lockette Fort Valley St WR
159 159 Alex Henery Nebraska K
160 160 Cliff Matthews South Carolina DE
161 161 Anthony Allen Georgia Tech RB
162 162 Stanley Havili USC FB
163 163 Vincent Brown San Diego St WR
164 164 DeMarcus Love Arkansas OT/G
165 165 Jamie Harper Clemson RB
166 166 Johnny White North Carolina RB
167 167 Joseph Barksdale LSU OT
168 168 Bilal Powell Louisville RB
169 169 Zane Taylor Utah C
170 170 Brandon Fusco Slippery Rock C
171 171 Martin Parker Richmond DT
172 172 Denarius Moore Tennessee WR
173 173 Derek Newton Arkansas St OT
174 174 Cortez Allen Citadel CB
175 175 Chris Hairston Clemson OT
176 176 Willie Smith East Carolina OT
177 177 Brandyn Thompson Boise St CB
178 178 Jerrard Tarrant Georgia Tech S
179 179 Da'Norris Searcy North Carolina S
180 180 Mario Harvey Marshall ILB
181 181 Greg McElroy Alabama QB
182 182 Doug Hogue Syracuse LB
183 183 Mike Mohamed Cal LB
184 184 Chris Neild West Virginia DT
185 185 Chykie Brown Texas CB
186 186 Chris White Mississippi St LB
187 187 Kendric Burney North Carolina CB
188 188 Darrin Walls Notre Dame CB
189 189 Cedric Thorton Central Arkansas DT
190 190 Anthony Sherman Connecticut FB
191 191 Pierre Allen Nebraska DE
192 192 Stevan Ridley LSU RB
193 193 Brian Rolle Ohio St LB
194 194 Mark Herzlich Boston College OLB
195 195 Adrian Moten Maryland LB
196 196 Ricky Elmore Arizona DE
197 197 Pernell McPhee Mississippi St DE
198 198 TJ Yates North Carolina QB
199 199 Schuylar Oordt Northern Iowa TE
200 200 Josh Bynes Auburn LB
201 201 Brandon Bair Oregon DE
202 202 Jeremy Beal Oklahoma OLB/ILB
203 203 Eric Hagg Nebraska S
204 204 Dwayne Harris East Carolina WR
205 205 Shiloh Keo Idaho S
206 206 Mark Legree Appalachian St S
207 207 Jeremy Kerley TCU WR
208 208 Lee Ziemba Auburn OT
209 209 Greg Romeus Pittsburgh DE
210 210 Kris Durham Georgia WR
211 211 Jake Kirkpatrick TCU C
212 212 Akeem Dent Georgia LB
213 213 Nathan Enderle Idaho QB
214 214 Ahmad Black Florida S
215 215 Chas Henry Florida P
216 216 Dane Sanzenbacker Ohio St WR
217 217 Casey Matthews Oregon LB
218 218 Kris O'Dowd USC C
219 219 Ross Homan Ohio St LB
220 220 Pat Devlin Delaware QB
221 221 Markell Carter Central Arkansas DE/OLB
222 222 Jason Kelce Cincinnati C
223 223 Ray Dominguez Arkansas G
224 224 Zach Clayton Auburn DT
225 225 Adam Froman Louisville QB
226 226 Colin Jones TCU S
227 227 Zach Hurd Connecticut G
228 228 Lee Smith Marshall TE
229 229 Jarred Fayson Illinois WR
230 230 David Arkin Missouri St G
231 231 Brett Brackett Penn St TE
232 232 Ryan Whalen Stanford WR
233 233 Kevin Rutland Missouri CB
234 234 Keith Williams Nebraska G
235 235 Josh Gatlin North Dakota St CB
236 236 Matt Murphy UNLV OT/G
237 237 Henry Hynoski Pittsburgh FB
238 238 Chris Prosinski Wyoming S
239 239 Johnny Culbreath South Carolina St OT
240 240 Dontavia Bogan South Florida WR
241 241 Ryan Taylor North Carolina FB
242 242 Jeff Tarpinian Iowa LB
243 243 DJ Young Michigan St OT
244 244 David Mims Virginia Union OT
245 245 Jabara Williams Stephen F Austin LB
246 246 Byron Bell New Mexico G/OT
247 247 Antareis Bryan Baylor CB
248 248 Anthony Gray Southern Mississippi DT
249 249 Ryan Jones Northwest Missouri St CB
250 250 Marc Schiecl Colorado School of Mines DE/OLB
251 251 Collin Franklin Iowa St TE
252 252 Kealoha Pilares Hawaii WR
253 253 Eric Gordon Michigan St LB
254 254 Anthony Walters Delaware S

[ Edited by 49oz2superbowl on Apr 29, 2011 at 10:23:51 ]