Originally posted by 24plus25er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
In fangio's system we need elite/above average corners, since he will be sending a blitzer on damn near every play
I agree...mostly. But what good 3-4 coaches do is use their CB's more physically up at the LOS b/c with a good pass rush, they only need to cover for a few seconds as opposed to under manusky where our CB's played 35 yards off a WR on 3rd and 3 and asked his LBers to drop back in coverage. That's why I first looked at defensive philosophy/scheme, our current players and how they would be utilized, before I finally slightly leaned towards Quinn. Spencer and Clements have both been used incorrectly iMHO as was Mays last year as well.
Let me try and be the voice of reason here;
Peterson is pretty much hands down the "safest" pick in this draft, and gives us a very good chance of adding another "elite" player to our roster. He also happens to play a position in which we are weak at, and he will be a day one starter. If we don't get Pete Pat or Amukamara in the first our odds of getting a guy who can be an impact player from day one is slim.
Quinn on the the other hand is a beast, and had he actually played last season would easily be a top three pick and we would be having this debate. He also is pro ready and can start from day one. The diffrence between the two is that I think we can add a pass rusher in the second round and possibly later rounds as well.
My pick: Peterson, gives us an impact player at a position that is hard to fill. We can always trade back into the 1st or upper second round to get a better pass rusher.
Good post...which is easier to obtain? A premier CB or pass rusher via draft or FA? We tried with Nate and others to no avail. We tried with Lawson & TBC.
That may be the next step...we've been minus a dominat pass rusher at the LB position, at least one that needs to be accounted for, for 10+ years now (Julian Peterson
)? CB, we've developed some solid ones. So if we go Peterson, then who and when do we address the gem for the pass rush? During the Nolan-era, he was all about the CB's and that failed to buy any time for a pass rush to develop. Granted, with Nolan and Manusky, it's safe to say these were vanilla schemes that didn't exactly play to our strengths. So if we go Quinn, who's our CB's?
Both positions certainly need a premier player at each. Both are critical to the defensive scheme we will be running.
My contention is that better utilization of Willis, Brooks and Quinn (even TKO in spurts) means CB's only need to cover for a very short period of time and this plays into the physical strengths of all of our current secondary esp. Clements/Spencer and even Mays. With a dominating 3 or 4 LB's plus Smith on the line and a more green-lighted Sopoaga and even McDonald, now our CB's can play their game, be physical and play tight and run blitz off those corners and make TFL's which both Spencer/Clements are great at.
We've learned that with an inconsistent pass rush or none at all, WR's, TE's and RB's have had all day to get open and QB's have had all day to throw. I don't think even a Revis and Sanders could have made that much difference let alone a rookie in Peterson. The other thing to consider is the complexity of the roles they will be playing. Especially at the WILL, right out of the gate, Quinn will be allowed to attack, attack, attack and be moved around and attack again. I think Peterson will have a larger learning curve before we'll see his true talents...the speed of the game will not affect Quinn like it will Peterson.
While I recognize the skill-set of Peterson and would be happy with him, no doubt, Quinn, IMHO has the slight edge.
[ Edited by NCommand on Apr 21, 2011 at 7:57 PM ]
