If we don't have a chance at Andrew Luck I just hope he isn't in the NFC west.
That being said, who knows? The guy has every chance to have a less impressive season with out Harbaugh. Many potential #1 picks that stay in school become a "first round guy" after a fall off year.
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Mar 30, 2011 at 3:23 PM
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Mar 30, 2011 at 3:41 PM
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Just because Stanford lost some starters, I highly doubt JH left the cubbarbs bare. If Stanford goes 8-3, reaches a bowl game and Luck has good numbers. It will only solidify his position, because he had to deal with loss of starters and change of coach-which is really not that much of a change since the HC was their OC.
Especially if he meets the 26-28-60 criteria. His father (Oliver Luck) is smart, he saw the lockout coming and whether his son comes out this year or next won't make a diff if there is a salary cap on rooks. Plus by going back to college he will get more playing time vs a lockout/strike/rookie year.
Especially if he meets the 26-28-60 criteria. His father (Oliver Luck) is smart, he saw the lockout coming and whether his son comes out this year or next won't make a diff if there is a salary cap on rooks. Plus by going back to college he will get more playing time vs a lockout/strike/rookie year.
Mar 30, 2011 at 4:39 PM
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Originally posted by WildBill:
Just because Stanford lost some starters, I highly doubt JH left the cubbarbs bare. If Stanford goes 8-3, reaches a bowl game and Luck has good numbers. It will only solidify his position, because he had to deal with loss of starters and change of coach-which is really not that much of a change since the HC was their OC.
Especially if he meets the 26-28-60 criteria. His father (Oliver Luck) is smart, he saw the lockout coming and whether his son comes out this year or next won't make a diff if there is a salary cap on rooks. Plus by going back to college he will get more playing time vs a lockout/strike/rookie year.
he lost 3 lineman, in case you didn't notice Andrew had the best protection last year. How do you know the new recievers will be as good as the ones last year? Locker was thought to be the #1 pick last year had he entered but he stayed and because the players he was surrounded with his numbers went down so did his stock. I still think Locker is good he just a bad cast, Luck has talent but the rest of his team might not.
Think about it how many other names in the past 2 years have you heard from Stanford besides Andrew Luck and Toby Gerhart? not many. The only way Luck can outdo himself is by completing every throw he makes and not throwing INT's. That's not gonna happen, he's had as good a season as anyone could ask for.
He'll still be good but his draft stock will drop. And next year there's other good QB's entering the draft theres no guarantee he'll either be the first taken or even the top 10.
Mar 30, 2011 at 4:50 PM
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Mar 30, 2011 at 8:40 PM
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s**t, I'd probably give up a kidney if that was, in a very odd circumstance, the difference between getting Luck or not.
Mar 30, 2011 at 8:49 PM
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Lets do a Ricky Williams type deal. I'd make that deal tomorrow.
Seriously, I probably wouldn't go that far, but I think in the long run Andrew Luck will prove more worthy of that kind of move than Ricky was. Ricky was a good player, but not that good. Andrew of course plays QB, and can set a team up for 10 plus years potentially.
Seriously, I probably wouldn't go that far, but I think in the long run Andrew Luck will prove more worthy of that kind of move than Ricky was. Ricky was a good player, but not that good. Andrew of course plays QB, and can set a team up for 10 plus years potentially.
Mar 30, 2011 at 9:21 PM
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So I guess a better question might be, if a team needs a QB, and they're sitting in a position to get Andrew Luck, what would it take to talk them into a trade?
Mar 30, 2011 at 9:56 PM
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Mar 30, 2011 at 11:34 PM
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Mar 30, 2011 at 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by Jakemall:Originally posted by 49ersGiantspride:
I love how people automatically assume he'll be better next year despite the loss of 3 lineman,2 recievers and most of all his mentor.
Personally I think his value is at its highest right now. Next year it might not be.
Inclined to agree...I think his value will drop. Which will make him attainable for us.
Totally disagree.
Hell, Sam Bradford didn't even PLAY and he was #1 overall. Even team mentioned like Cleveland (McCoy) and Denver (Tebow) will take him. I am inclined to say Andrew Luck is the surefire #1 overall pick next year. Unless the Rams, Lions, or some other team who has just picked up their "Franchise" QB is sitting there.
Mar 31, 2011 at 12:18 AM
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is there any chance that there is no nfl draft in 2012--say the collective bargaining agreement issue isnt settled, or the draft is bargained out of the CBA...'d love to spend some of jed york's $ to be highest bidder for Luck
Mar 31, 2011 at 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by chico49erfan:Originally posted by Jakemall:Originally posted by 49ersGiantspride:
I love how people automatically assume he'll be better next year despite the loss of 3 lineman,2 recievers and most of all his mentor.
Personally I think his value is at its highest right now. Next year it might not be.
Inclined to agree...I think his value will drop. Which will make him attainable for us.
Totally disagree.
Hell, Sam Bradford didn't even PLAY and he was #1 overall. Even team mentioned like Cleveland (McCoy) and Denver (Tebow) will take him. I am inclined to say Andrew Luck is the surefire #1 overall pick next year. Unless the Rams, Lions, or some other team who has just picked up their "Franchise" QB is sitting there.
I totally Agree even if he ends up doing well next year he's still going to be the number 1 over all pick.... Plan one by jim, tell him to stay hopefully with a season and no qb and forced to start david carr we will be in the number 1 spot!
Mar 31, 2011 at 1:29 AM
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Originally posted by 49ersGiantspride:
I love how people automatically assume he'll be better next year despite the loss of 3 lineman,2 recievers and most of all his mentor.
Personally I think his value is at its highest right now. Next year it might not be.
kinda like Jake Locker huh?
Mar 31, 2011 at 2:57 AM
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Originally posted by GorefullBore:
Lets do a Ricky Williams type deal. I'd make that deal tomorrow.
Seriously, I probably wouldn't go that far, but I think in the long run Andrew Luck will prove more worthy of that kind of move than Ricky was. Ricky was a good player, but not that good. Andrew of course plays QB, and can set a team up for 10 plus years potentially.
I would prefer to do a Ricky Williams deal and lose one whole draft than the OP's idea of losing three first round picks. 3!
I dont see any draftee as being worth three 1st rounders.
Mar 31, 2011 at 7:04 AM
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Originally posted by English:Originally posted by 9erred:Originally posted by 9erred:
We have a 1in 15 chance of not giving up anything. Considering the Niners have only David Carr at qb, they are courting Alex Smith, there is a chance they could earn the #1 pick, which in a weird way would make the2011 a great season.
I said 1 in 15 because I feel the niners have not had a winnign season in 9 years, so I excluded the teams that have franchise qb's and no doubt will win more than 8 games.
Starting line up to lose 16 games.
LCB Tareel Brown
RCB adams
SS Taylor Mays
FS curtis taylor
ILB Navor Bowman
ILB scott Mckillop
OLB parys Harlson
OLB ahmad brooks
LDE ray mcdondald
NT RJF
RDE Isaac Sopaga
WR Kyle Wilson
WR Ted Ginn
TE Nate Byname
LT Alex Boone
LG snyder
LG ICter wragge
RG chilo rachal
RT anthony davis
FB Norris
RB anthony Dixon
QB David Carr
It is SCARY when you takeout GORE, CRABTREE, VD, IUPATI, JUSTIN SMITH, WILLIS, and CLEMENTS, you realize the team has only 7 players who are impact players on the team. The rest are ???
average. And that is the way most teams are. How many impact players did you expect, out of curiosity?
Per the sporting news, we have a shot at luck.
Recently the Sporting News wrote the 49ers were in the worst shape of all 32 teams in the current labor lockout.
The situation highlights the consistent bad timing and luck the team experienced over the last eight playoff-less seasons. Yes, ownership, management and coaches have mismanaged the team during the playoff drought, however the organization has also been struck by stunning bad luck.
Their lack of offensive continuity is partially attributed to their parade of offensive coordinators, two of whom (Mike McCarthy and Norv Turner) left for head-coaching positions. The team then drafted in 2005 during a slow year for quarterbacks and chose Alex Smith instead of Aaron Rodgers. Partially because of that decision, they desperately need a quarterback again and now they come into a draft with precious few prospects. This team is overdue for a break.
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