Are you kidding me!!!!

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by owiseone:
Blaine Gabbert threw only 16 touchdowns in the spread offense last year! Are you guys kidding me! You want us to draft a guy that throws 16 touchdowns in his last year of college oppose to the heisman trophy winner who accounted for 40 touchdowns and a national championship while playing in the sec!!! If he throws for only 16 touchdowns in division he was in I wonder if he would have even started on an sec team at all! You guys want us to take him #7 with 16 touchdowns? Are you kidding me!

How do Matt Cassell's college stats look like?

Originally posted by owiseone:

Originally posted by CoachingMatters:

Originally posted by owiseone:

Originally posted by CoachingMatters:

Originally posted by owiseone:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by owiseone:
Blaine Gabbert threw only 16 touchdowns in the spread offense last year! Are you guys kidding me! You want us to draft a guy that throws 16 touchdowns in his last year of college oppose to the heisman trophy winner who accounted for 40 touchdowns and a national championship while playing in the sec!!! If he throws for only 16 touchdowns in division he was in I wonder if he would have even started on an sec team at all! You guys want us to take him #7 with 16 touchdowns? Are you kidding me!

All Heisman winning QB turn out to be NFL gold. well, except for Andre Ware, Ty Detmer , Gino Torretta, Charlie Ward, Danny Wuerffel, Chris Weinke, Eric Crouch, Jason White, Matt Leinart, Troy Smith, and Tim Tebow. oh wait....

college stats mean nothing. from 1989 to 2007, 12 QB have won the Heisman for their college stats and performance. 11 of them have been NFL busts, or not made it far enough to even bust. Carson Palmer is the only winner that was worth anything in that span. obviously its looking good for Sam Bradford so far, but the point is its fundamentally sound guys with the leadership intangibles that make it in the NFL, not guys like Cam Newton who can throw it 85 yds and was the college MVP.

That's right it's those intangibles that made him win the Heisman Trophy and the National Championship and the Junior College Championship. Remember what Bill Walsh said if they win Championships on multiple levels then they are probably going to probably play on a championship level in the pros!

Thats a crock, plenty of great player come from less then great teams/programs. Great players cant help where they play.

Yeah but when your the quaterback then your suppose to carry your team, throwing for 16 touchdowns is not carrying your team!

You are taking one number (16) and making it a corner stone for your argument. To many variables go into that one number though. Pass protection, WRs ability to create space and get open, a solid ground game to force an extra man down in the box, etc.

You cant take one number and say thats why somone cant perform. Its just not ethical or logical.

Since when has the truth been unethical? You don't want the truth to come out about this guy, and we I bring the truth out you say it's unethical to tell the people who's not thinking or doing their own homework on a guy that he only threw for 16 touchdowns in a spread offence that is designed for him to throw for 25 to 35 touchdowns. Say what you want but we have enough Alex Smiths we don't need another one.

Originally posted by communist:

Originally posted by CoachingMatters:

You are taking one number (16) and making it a corner stone for your argument. To many variables go into that one number though. Pass protection, WRs ability to create space and get open, a solid ground game to force an extra man down in the box, etc.

You cant take one number and say thats why somone cant perform. Its just not ethical or logical.

just take a look at the contra-locker posts...

Originally posted by CoachingMatters:

Originally posted by owiseone:

Originally posted by CoachingMatters:

Originally posted by owiseone:

Originally posted by CoachingMatters:

Originally posted by owiseone:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by owiseone:
Blaine Gabbert threw only 16 touchdowns in the spread offense last year! Are you guys kidding me! You want us to draft a guy that throws 16 touchdowns in his last year of college oppose to the heisman trophy winner who accounted for 40 touchdowns and a national championship while playing in the sec!!! If he throws for only 16 touchdowns in division he was in I wonder if he would have even started on an sec team at all! You guys want us to take him #7 with 16 touchdowns? Are you kidding me!

All Heisman winning QB turn out to be NFL gold. well, except for Andre Ware, Ty Detmer , Gino Torretta, Charlie Ward, Danny Wuerffel, Chris Weinke, Eric Crouch, Jason White, Matt Leinart, Troy Smith, and Tim Tebow. oh wait....

college stats mean nothing. from 1989 to 2007, 12 QB have won the Heisman for their college stats and performance. 11 of them have been NFL busts, or not made it far enough to even bust. Carson Palmer is the only winner that was worth anything in that span. obviously its looking good for Sam Bradford so far, but the point is its fundamentally sound guys with the leadership intangibles that make it in the NFL, not guys like Cam Newton who can throw it 85 yds and was the college MVP.

That's right it's those intangibles that made him win the Heisman Trophy and the National Championship and the Junior College Championship. Remember what Bill Walsh said if they win Championships on multiple levels then they are probably going to probably play on a championship level in the pros!

Thats a crock, plenty of great player come from less then great teams/programs. Great players cant help where they play.

Yeah but when your the quaterback then your suppose to carry your team, throwing for 16 touchdowns is not carrying your team!

You are taking one number (16) and making it a corner stone for your argument. To many variables go into that one number though. Pass protection, WRs ability to create space and get open, a solid ground game to force an extra man down in the box, etc.

You cant take one number and say thats why somone cant perform. Its just not ethical or logical.

Since when has the truth been unethical? You don't want the truth to come out about this guy, and we I bring the truth out you say it's unethical to tell the people who's not thinking or doing their own homework on a guy that he only threw for 16 touchdowns in a spread offence that is designed for him to throw for 25 to 35 touchdowns. Say what you want but we have enough Alex Smiths we don't need another one.

Actually I believe Alex had about 32 tds his senior campaign. One number proves nothing.

Originally posted by CoachingMatters:

Originally posted by communist:

Originally posted by CoachingMatters:

You are taking one number (16) and making it a corner stone for your argument. To many variables go into that one number though. Pass protection, WRs ability to create space and get open, a solid ground game to force an extra man down in the box, etc.

You cant take one number and say thats why somone cant perform. Its just not ethical or logical.

just take a look at the contra-locker posts...

searched "contra-locker" and came up with nothing.

Originally posted by communist:

Originally posted by CoachingMatters:

Originally posted by communist:

Originally posted by CoachingMatters:

You are taking one number (16) and making it a corner stone for your argument. To many variables go into that one number though. Pass protection, WRs ability to create space and get open, a solid ground game to force an extra man down in the box, etc.

You cant take one number and say thats why somone cant perform. Its just not ethical or logical.

just take a look at the contra-locker posts...

searched "contra-locker" and came up with nothing.

i assume that was a serious answer...i am talking about those postings which argue against locker by taking his completion pct as the major point, if not the only one.