Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by TexasNiner:
Originally posted by TalkinBoutWILLIS:
Originally posted by TexasNiner:
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
1. Patrick Peterson - need meets value meets production meets upside meets SEC
2. Robert Quinn - the "red flags" are preposterous...this guy is as violent of a pass rusher as you will see. He will be a 10+ sack guy for a decade
3. Von Miller - size worries me, and you can't avoid the fragility concerns. Still he'll be high on the list due to production, need, and Sr. Bowl performance
4. AJ Green - not a great need, but Green, Crabtree, Vernon...oh my! Sometimes you have to take the best player in the draft, and that might be AJ
5. Nick Fairly - questionable work ethic, one year wonder, and not a great schematic fit, but compares favorably from a talent standpoint to last year's rookie who dominated the league from day 1
6. Marcel Dareus - perfect fit in the scheme, and may trickle down to the OLB and CB production. Him and JS may give us the best 3/4 ends in the league for years (since JS doesn't seem to be slowing down one tad). Have been reading a number of things that question his upside however.
7. Prince Amukamara - stock is falling, but is still a quality prospect at a major position of need. Think Marcus Trufant like upside. Still a good addition, but won't be a game changer in a way Ed Reed, Palamalu or Woodson are.
So you think Prince projects more as a safety than a QB?
If that's the case, I wouldn't take him at #7. Don't get me wrong, I think he will be a fine CB in the NFL, and would be thrilled to get him at 7 if Peterson or a dominant pass rusher isn't available. But that's assuming the team believes he will be a CB.
If they are drafting him to be a S, then I'd put Jordan and Bowers ahead of him.
of course he is a better safety than QB haha but i think the relations to safety is speed concerns he has good speed but not elite
CB obviously is what I meant. Do you project him as a S or CB in our system/the NFL?
Because if we are drafting him a S, I think #7 is too high and he would drop much farther into the first round. Again, that being said, personally, I see him as a CB.
I think he'll definitely get a shake at CB, but eventually in his career will move to Safety because his speed/size will actually make him an elite safety, but his tight hips may keep him from becoming an elite CB. He'll be good as either. Also, a S is definitely worth a top pick. Eric Berry established that fact last year.
On a side note, there are several certainties in life...
1) death
2) taxes
3) if Peterson is on the board at 7, he won't be at 8
I agree with point 3 in general. But not if we are converting him to safety. That's kind of the point. VERY few CBs have successfully converted to elite safeties in their careers. Lott and Woodson are the exceptions.
Certainly, I agree that someone who can be an Ed Reed type is worth the #7 pick. But that's a rare gem. Finding that type of player, let alone converting one from another position, is very, very rare.
Usually safeties are not the dominant players on a D. They are essentially CBs who can't cover, but can hit. Not all of course, but that's more the "typical" S, than not.
So drafting someone to transition from CB to S at #7, seem like a high risk to me.
I'd take whatever pass rusher/3-4 end is available first in that case. Because a player who is at least good in that role, will be more valuable than a "good" safety.
Plus, we have a player on the roster who might still be a "good" safety. I'm not a huge believer in Mays, but he could be serviceable. Which might be all you get from Prince or any other converted CB. At least Mays has spent his entire career playing the position.
