Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Three things I noticed from the Nebraska/OSU clip:
1) Initially Prince played well ... because the Nebraska DL had a great pass-rush
2) Once the pass-rush was picked up and adjustments made, Price gets beat bad
It's like the story of the 49er defense for 6 years running now? When our pedestrian pass-rush is nullified, the secondary get torched.
3) Prince is a press corner - like Nate and Spencer. He's not an elite speed guy who can make up ground once he's beaten. He'll have to overcome with technique in the NFL and that will take time. That being said, he will not beat out any of our players on this secondary day one.
So if Price better because in those games Nebraska's pass-rush was far and away better than their opponents? I have a feeling that was the case.
Well that's the case for all corners not named Sanders, and Revis. If the qb has the time he's gonna complete a pass on almost any CB. Nebraska had the 29th ranked sack total so they were pretty solid in the pass rush department. LSU's ranking is even higher so the same could be said for Patrick Peterson. I've seen Prince lock guys down and I've seen him get beaten. It's gonna happen that part of being a CB. The majority of games I saw he wasn't beat often regardless of the pressure. I didn't see the OSU game. He is a press corner but that doesn't mean he's slow. i have no idea what his projected .40 times are. Revis and Cromartie are both press corners that have elite speed. And the guy's technique is pretty solid and he has very fluid hips. It wouldn't take a lot of time. He can start day one. We will have to wait and see on exactly how fast he is.
Pass rush vs CB debate basically. Hard one to call
Great analysis lamontb
! Thanks for the response. I think this is a great debate and reminds of discussions we had around with WR vs
Don't know if this is hard to call at all. If the pass-rush get's to the QB, there is no completion or if the QB is hurried, the CB gets credit for a "pass defended". IMHO, Pass-rush and QB server similar roles for their respective units. Everyone says it's a QB-driven league that a good QB can make average WRs look great given protection. The reverse is true - for defense, it's a pressure-driven league. If you have edge rushers who can get to the QB, it makes your secondary look a lot better. And even Revis and Sanders had problems when their respective teams were not able to generate a pass-rush (vs Pats 1st game vs 2nd game).
Yes, Prince can start day one but will he? Will he beat out Spencer and Clements? Highly, highly unlikely.
And still, the 49ers will be without an elite pass-rusher, something that has hounded this squad for years. Like Rob Ryan said in a 3-4 D, if you have no pressure OLBs, you have no defense....
GREAT point Ghost!!!
and Woodson was a FA pick-up from Oakland.
[ Edited by NinerGM on Jan 28, 2011 at 14:00:51 ]