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oldies' quick New Year's Mock

Your mocks are fun to read, just because they're flashy and colorful -- However, this one could be a little better. Some moves I'm not so sure we'd make, but others I think you bring up some nice possibilities.

The intrigues: WR Moore, CB Washington -- I think both are strong possibilities as targets.

The not-so-thrillings: Keeping Baas, Broken-legged Heitmann, and not drafting any OL until late. I think we will pursue a lineman who can play center, whether it be a pure center, or a versatile OL who can play all over. This could be in either the draft, FA, or both.
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by bigwads:
That is the worst mock draft you could have ever generated...

Really? I thought this has been the best one I've seen on this site so far.
Other ones seem very very unrealistic (for ex: Getting OG Mankins, CB Joseph and Andrwe Luck).

This has been the most realistic mock draft ive seen so far.


Thanks, and no problem, guys. Not everyone will like and agree with every prospect or move made. That's one reason why the draft is fun... so many differing opinions floating around. Yes, definitely didn't want to stack the deck by adding crazy good FAs just to please everyone.

- The QB situation is a tough one. I'm perfectly fine with waving g'bye to Alex. Problem is, he really is the best QB on our roster... and I'm not impressed with some of the QB options we could bring in. It's not ideal... probably won't happen... but I see no real solutions going into 2011.

- I place huge portions of blame for our problems... QB, OL, pass rush, and secondary... on the coaching. So we fix that, and these players will up their play.
Much rather sign Jonathon Joseph or Marshall from Carolina than Fabian Washington. Ravens corners are suspect and they tend to look really bad once they leave that system. Not sold on Blane at all.
Love the presentation, however, the only draft picks I was really stoked on was Johnny Patrick and Brooks Reed.
Like always a lot of issues will be determined by whom the GM, HC, OC, DC. So there are so many variable it is hard to get an idea of what we are doing and where we are going.

The GM, coaches, will have to determine what our best system is for our players and then decide what to do with our current players. So A. Smith for example will have to be determined whether he is a true bust or if he is a symbol of poor coaching. Same with Crabtree.

I personally do not think that Sullivan has done much for our WRs. So he may be another one that needs to go.

But otherwise I like your stuff Oldtimer, I also like the presentation.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Blaine Gabbert in the top 10? Beautifully presented as always, but I can't believe you would think that another shotgun system QB would be worth a first round pick, much less a top 10 pick.

Coming outta college, Gabbert is much better passer than Alex Smith was. Gabbert goes through much more reads as to Urban Meyers Spread Option.

Much better passer than Smith? High 50's to low 60's completion percentage plus a 40 to 18 TD to INT ratio does not scream out to me as a much better passer than Smith's career at Utah (High 60's completion percentage plus a 47 to 8 TD to INT ratio). Another gimmick system QB, not a pro style QB by any stretch of the imagination.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Your mocks are fun to read, just because they're flashy and colorful -- However, this one could be a little better. Some moves I'm not so sure we'd make, but others I think you bring up some nice possibilities.

The intrigues: WR Moore, CB Washington -- I think both are strong possibilities as targets.

The not-so-thrillings: Keeping Baas, Broken-legged Heitmann, and not drafting any OL until late. I think we will pursue a lineman who can play center, whether it be a pure center, or a versatile OL who can play all over. This could be in either the draft, FA, or both.

Don't think bringing Baas and Heitmann back is a bad thing. Remember, before playing center, Heitmann was a damn good guard and has more talent than Wragge. Also, Baas has had his first full season at Center, and I have to admit, the rapport he's built with Iupati is pretty good (watch any run play that they combo block to the ILB, frickin' beautiful) and hasn't shown to be a negative.

I agree, we will need to pick up OL for depth, but picking up some guys in the late rounds of the draft will probably do us the best, seeing we have major needs at these positions before reaching OL needs:

1. QB
2. Pass rush DE/OLB
3. CB
4. WR
5. K

Only guy I'd rag on is Rachal, but in the second half of the season, he and Davis have actually improved and decreased on the holding/false start penalties while improving on run blocking (Davis still needs to improve on the pass blocking, but will take time. He def has the talent, just needs to be coached properly). I'd give him one more year and develop a guy just in case. Also, Boone has improved immensely so will definitely replace Sims' backup role.
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by bigwads:
That is the worst mock draft you could have ever generated...

Really? I thought this has been the best one I've seen on this site so far.
Other ones seem very very unrealistic (for ex: Getting OG Mankins, CB Joseph and Andrwe Luck).

This has been the most realistic mock draft ive seen so far.


Thanks, and no problem, guys. Not everyone will like and agree with every prospect or move made. That's one reason why the draft is fun... so many differing opinions floating around. Yes, definitely didn't want to stack the deck by adding crazy good FAs just to please everyone.

- The QB situation is a tough one. I'm perfectly fine with waving g'bye to Alex. Problem is, he really is the best QB on our roster... and I'm not impressed with some of the QB options we could bring in. It's not ideal... probably won't happen... but I see no real solutions going into 2011.

- I place huge portions of blame for our problems... QB, OL, pass rush, and secondary... on the coaching. So we fix that, and these players will up their play.

Once again, great info and pick oldman9er

Only negative I have is bringing back Alex. I know he's the most talented QB we got (threw up a lil bit just saying that), but the strained relationship between the fanbase and Alex has gone past he point of no return. Even IF he can put up Brady or Rivers numbers next year, first sign of trouble and the "We want Blaine" chant will rumble throughout the Stick...

I'm a little unsure about the Gabbert pick, especially after the Nebraska, Texas Tech, and Iowa games this year. He seems to disappear at the most key moments of the biggest games, either an INT or a badly thrown pass, but I think that may be due to him feeling he has to make the play, which is easily fixed with proper coaching.

But, watching him against Oklahoma, Kansas, and San Diego State this year, he shows a lot of promise. For his mediocre OL and relatively unknown WR core (lost Alexander this year but found T.J. Moe), he has a lot of accuracy and can throw both the short crossing route and deep ball.

He does seem like a 1 year project similar to Mallett, but the 6-5, 235lb QB with both movement and pocket presence, could be a damn good starter.

Outside of that, loooooooooooooooooooove the Beal, Mouton, and Claiborne picks. You also have some HUGE steals:

- Johnny Patrick: Third rounder with late 1st potential. Very physical and has a Greer-type feel (great #2 CB to move Spencer down...only reason why we keep Spencer is b/c he's the only CB in the NFL who knows how to guard Fitz)

- Matt Szczur: Potential to be the next great slot receiver. Possession WR with deceptive speed. Will have much to prove and feel he will.

- Brooks Reed: Can you say "Clay Mathews" carbon copy? With him and Smith as bookends, I feel sorry for the OTs having to protect the opposing QBs.


Finally, also wanted to commend you on the FA pick ups. I agree that we won't be picking up any marquee top tier names, but with Moore and Washington, we fix two of our biggest needs (CB depth and speedy WR).

Once again, kick-@$$ job oldman9er, definitely beats out my mock by a mile and looking forward to another one in the future
I don't know much about Gabbert but love the FA ideas and if we end up with Devine in the 4th I'd be ecstatic.
Originally posted by Crazy49er1313:

Once again, kick-@$$ job oldman9er, definitely beats out my mock by a mile and looking forward to another one in the future

You're very kind... lots of good feedback in that overall post, thanks.


Originally posted by thedude:
I don't know much about Gabbert but love the FA ideas and if we end up with Devine in the 4th I'd be ecstatic.

Here are a couple of interesting Gabbert articles...

Quote:
Missouri quarterback Blaine Gabbert may have solidified first-round draft status at the detriment of Iowa’s defense. Save for one mistake, Gabbert had a career day against the Hawkeyes in a 27-24 loss Tuesday night at the Insight Bowl. He completed 41 of 57 passes for 434 yards – all Missouri bowl records. But it was the pass that got away that nagged at him after the game.
http://thegazette.com/2010/12/29/mistake-aside-missouris-blaine-gabbert-solidifies-top-shelf-status/

http://seahawksdraftblog.com/?p=1000

Quote:
Not many people are talking about Blaine Gabbert as a first round prospect. That may begin to change after a largley impressive display against Iowa in the Insight Bowl. So what about the positives? There were lots of them and these shouldn’t be over shadowed. The big arm is there for all to see and that’s never been in question. Gabbert makes a full range of throws and understands when to bring out the cannon and when he needs to tone it down. Over and over again Gabbert was able to fit the ball into windows a lot of NFL QBs couldn’t. He consistently found the soft-spot between safety and CB. He isn’t afraid to throw down the middle and whilst there were scripted plays and underneath completions – the Tigers could make any play callwith confidence. Gabbert flashed a full repetoire of passes. Gabbert remained cool and unemotional and kept his composure despite being asked to make a number of difficult throws downfield. But what do you want from a franchise QB? Accuracy? Mobility? Character? Big arm? Gabbert has all of these things. I put Gabbert at #13 in my mock. Expect to see him in every other mock draft over the next few days.

I was surprised to see this one about Devine. No way IMHO do I see him falling that far. He may be undersized, but that's crazy to me.

http://draftace.com/blog/2010/12/28/prospects-to-watch-in-the-champs-sports-bowl/
Quote:
The most well-known prospect in this game is West Virginia running back Noel Devine. He’s an explosive athlete, but probably isn’t anything more than a kick returner/3rd-string running back at the next level. His stock has also been hurt by a foot injury which has slowed him for much of this season. He probably won’t come off the board until the 6th or 7th round and may struggle to make a roster if he can’t win a job on special teams.
Lets see if Gabbert declares. If he does its possible I may or may not like the offseason
Originally posted by ninerlifer:
Lets see if Gabbert declares. If he does its possible I may or may not like the offseason

Feel free to share thoughts on the other aspects as well.