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GEEK's First Mock Plan/Draft

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Coaching Changes -

HC: Jim Harbaugh (Stanford's Head Coach, former QB and QB Coach in NFL)

OC/Ast. HC: Bill Callahan (NYJ's O-line/Ast. HC, former HC and OC in NFL)

QB: Mike Sheppard (Bengals WR Coach, former NFL QB Coach)
RB: Tom Rathman
TE: Greg Roman (Stanford's TE Coach)
WR: Jerry Sullivan, Pep Hamilton (Stanford's WR Coach, former 49ers QB coach)
OL: Mike Solari, Ray Brown

DC: Marvin Lewis (Bengals Head Coach, former Ravens DC in 4-3 scheme)
DL: Jim Tomsula
LB: Vic Fangio (DC/LB Coach for Stanford, former NFL DC and LB coach)
DB: Kevin Coyle (Current DB coach for Bengals), Rod Woodson (current Bengals DB Coach Intern)

ST: Brian Polian (Stanford's ST Coordinator)

Personnel Changes -

Gone/Cut:

Alex Smith - QB
David Carr - QB
Nate Davis - QB
Brian Westbrook - RB
Moran Norris - FB (cut)
Barry Sims - OT
David Baas - OG/C
DeMetric Evans - DT/DE
Aubrayo Franklin - NT
Will James - CB
Nate Clements - CB (cut)


Resign:

Manny Lawson - LB (Franchise)
DaShon Goldson - S (RFA - 1 year)
Ray McDonald - DT (RFA - 1 year)
Tory Smith - QB (RFA - 1 year)
Tony Wragge - OT/OG/C (2 year, 3M)
Alex Boone - OT (1 year, min.)
Takeo Spikes - LB (2 year, 6M)
Travis La Boy - DE (1 year, 2M)

Free Agency:

Leon Washington - RB/KR - 3 year, 9M (Seahawks)
Logan Mankins - OG - 5 year, 35M (Patriots)
Johnathan Joseph - CB - 6 year, 42M (Bengals)
Gabe Watson - DT/NT - 2 year, 4M (Cardinals)

Trade:

Chilo Rachal - OG for Raiders 6th round draft pick

49ers 2011 3rd round and 2012 1st round pick for Kevin Kolb - QB - Eagles

NFL Draft:

R1: Nick Fairly - DT - Auburn
R2: Mike Pouncey - C/OG - Florida
R4: Colin Kaepernick - QB - Nevada
R4: Chimdi Chekwa - CB - Ohio State (from Chargers)
R5: Owen Marecic - FB - Stanford
R6: Adam Grant - OT - Arizona
R6: Ryan Whalen - WR - Stanford (from proposed Raiders trade)
R7: Kris Adams - WR - UTEP (practice squad)

Depth Chart:

QB: Kolb*/Smith/Kaepernick*
RB: Gore/Washington*/Dixon
FB: Marecic*
TE: Davis/Walker/Byham

WR: Crabtree/Whalen*
WR: Ginn/Williams
WR: Morgan

LT: Staley/Boone
LG: Mankins*/Wragge
C: Heitmann/Pouncey*
RG: Iupati/Snyder
RT: Davis/Grant*

LE: Smith/McDonald
NT: Sopoaga/Watson*
DT: Fairly*/RJF
RE: La Boy/Haralson

OLB: Lawson/Brooks
ILB: Willis/McKillop
OLB: Spikes/Bowman

CB: Spencer/Brown/Adams
CB: Joseph*/Chekwa*
FS: Goldson/Smith
SS: Mays/Taylor
It's unrealistic for the Yorks to make that many coaching changes and there are some very high end coordinators in there. Not going to happen on this team.
I think they will re-sign David Baas. He has proven to be valuable.

[ Edited by PTulini on Nov 25, 2010 at 15:33:24 ]
Mankins turned down 50+ million from the Pats. Hes not signing for a cellar dweller for 35.

And with a new cba, assuming its the same as the previous, would mean that Troy Smith is NOT a RFA but an UFA. Same with McDonald and Goldson. Unless you have inside info that the new CBA will increase the years needed to be a FA?

Jonathan's contract is pretty low too. The last rash of FA-to-be CBs all got around 9-10 mil a year. (Samuel, Trufant, Newman) Joseph on the open market is not going to settle for 6 for 42.

[ Edited by jojomellon on Nov 25, 2010 at 15:52:24 ]
I'm sorry but you lost me at a first for kolb, I don't think he has played enough to warrant that
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Coaching Changes -

HC: Jim Harbaugh (Stanford's Head Coach, former QB and QB Coach in NFL)

OC/Ast. HC: Bill Callahan (NYJ's O-line/Ast. HC, former HC and OC in NFL)
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Personnel Changes -

Gone/Cut:
Brian Westbrook - RB why? b/c you haven't seen anything special from him? how many chances has he get so far?
Barry Sims - OT why? he is a solid backup
David Baas - OG/C why? he plays solid at center...would be a wonderful backup for heitmann if not a starter


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Resign:

Manny Lawson - LB (Franchise) since when is manny worth a franchise tag? he is too limited in his opportunities, i.e. he is a run-stopper only.
DaShon Goldson - S (RFA - 1 year) that guy has to go...
Takeo Spikes - LB (2 year, 6M) 2 years is too long b/c this would send a wrong signal to his potential successors

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Free Agency:

Leon Washington - RB/KR - 3 year, 9M (Seahawks) we have ginn jr., its more than enough.
Gabe Watson - DT/NT - 2 year, 4M (Cardinals) and that guy is REALLY good?

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Trade:

Chilo Rachal - OG for Raiders 6th round draft pick even the raiders arent that stupid anymore...but you could try it with the bills

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49ers 2011 3rd round and 2012 1st round pick for Kevin Kolb - QB - Eagles

a future 1st-rounder for a relatively unproven QB???
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NFL Draft:

R1: Nick Fairly - DT - Auburn if and only if both top CB-prospects are already off the board with this pick
R2: Mike Pouncey - C/OG - Florida 1.i don't think that mike would be available in the 2nd, 2.our qb-need is every bit as big as at RG if not bigger. hence, i would take a qb here and take a OG in the 4th round.
R4: Colin Kaepernick - QB - Nevada
R4: Chimdi Chekwa - CB - Ohio State (from Chargers)
R5: Owen Marecic - FB - Stanford
R6: Adam Grant - OT - Arizona
R6: Ryan Whalen - WR - Stanford (from proposed Raiders trade)
R7: Kris Adams - WR - UTEP (practice squad)
i'm not sold on kolb either. i'm thinking he's going to fetch a 3rd at best.
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Interesting you have Callahan....if Gruden goes back to the sidelines, don't be shocked to see him go with Chucky yet again. Either way, Callahan is a great OL coach as well, so to bring him in to be an OC once more would add another coach with great experience and a track record in the trenches.
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Originally posted by communist:
Quote:
Coaching Changes -

HC: Jim Harbaugh (Stanford's Head Coach, former QB and QB Coach in NFL)

OC/Ast. HC: Bill Callahan (NYJ's O-line/Ast. HC, former HC and OC in NFL)
Quote:
Personnel Changes -

Gone/Cut:
Brian Westbrook - RB why? b/c you haven't seen anything special from him? how many chances has he get so far?
Barry Sims - OT why? he is a solid backup
David Baas - OG/C why? he plays solid at center...would be a wonderful backup for heitmann if not a starter


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Resign:

Manny Lawson - LB (Franchise) since when is manny worth a franchise tag? he is too limited in his opportunities, i.e. he is a run-stopper only.
DaShon Goldson - S (RFA - 1 year) that guy has to go...
Takeo Spikes - LB (2 year, 6M) 2 years is too long b/c this would send a wrong signal to his potential successors

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Free Agency:

Leon Washington - RB/KR - 3 year, 9M (Seahawks) we have ginn jr., its more than enough.
Gabe Watson - DT/NT - 2 year, 4M (Cardinals) and that guy is REALLY good?

Quote:
Trade:

Chilo Rachal - OG for Raiders 6th round draft pick even the raiders arent that stupid anymore...but you could try it with the bills

Quote:
49ers 2011 3rd round and 2012 1st round pick for Kevin Kolb - QB - Eagles

a future 1st-rounder for a relatively unproven QB???
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NFL Draft:

R1: Nick Fairly - DT - Auburn if and only if both top CB-prospects are already off the board with this pick
R2: Mike Pouncey - C/OG - Florida 1.i don't think that mike would be available in the 2nd, 2.our qb-need is every bit as big as at RG if not bigger. hence, i would take a qb here and take a OG in the 4th round.
R4: Colin Kaepernick - QB - Nevada
R4: Chimdi Chekwa - CB - Ohio State (from Chargers)
R5: Owen Marecic - FB - Stanford
R6: Adam Grant - OT - Arizona
R6: Ryan Whalen - WR - Stanford (from proposed Raiders trade)
R7: Kris Adams - WR - UTEP (practice squad)

-Baas I can see as someone who gets overpaid ont he open market because he put together his first decent year.

-While I think Goldson hasn't earned an extension, tendering him would make a lot of sense. New DB coaches and new DC give him another year. If someone chooses to match the tender we could let him walk for a draft pick (depending on what the tender amount is)

-2 years is not too much for Spikes and sends zero message. It doesn't guarantee a roster spot for either year, he still has to earn it. Vets get these kind of deals all the time and it doesn't mean he'd be here for 2 more years.

-Washington gives you an additional player with return skills yes, however he'd be over a year removed from the broken leg. He is a change of pace back to Gore/Dixon and has proven before the broken leg his worth as a pass catcher out of the backfield as well.
Originally posted by KRS-1:

-While I think Goldson hasn't earned an extension, tendering him would make a lot of sense. New DB coaches and new DC give him another year. If someone chooses to match the tender we could let him walk for a draft pick (depending on what the tender amount is)

-2 years is not too much for Spikes and sends zero message. It doesn't guarantee a roster spot for either year, he still has to earn it. Vets get these kind of deals all the time and it doesn't mean he'd be here for 2 more years.

-Washington gives you an additional player with return skills yes, however he'd be over a year removed from the broken leg. He is a change of pace back to Gore/Dixon and has proven before the broken leg his worth as a pass catcher out of the backfield as well.

Goldson will be an unrestricted free agent unless the new cba ups the amount of years needed for free agency, which i doubt it will.
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Originally posted by jojomellon:
Originally posted by KRS-1:

-While I think Goldson hasn't earned an extension, tendering him would make a lot of sense. New DB coaches and new DC give him another year. If someone chooses to match the tender we could let him walk for a draft pick (depending on what the tender amount is)

-2 years is not too much for Spikes and sends zero message. It doesn't guarantee a roster spot for either year, he still has to earn it. Vets get these kind of deals all the time and it doesn't mean he'd be here for 2 more years.

-Washington gives you an additional player with return skills yes, however he'd be over a year removed from the broken leg. He is a change of pace back to Gore/Dixon and has proven before the broken leg his worth as a pass catcher out of the backfield as well.

Goldson will be an unrestricted free agent unless the new cba ups the amount of years needed for free agency, which i doubt it will.

I didn't look it up, just went with what GEEK had as he is usually got his s**t straight. With him being an UFA, I'd let him test the open market.
I agree with ALMOST EVERYTHING but the 'Jerry Sullivan' bit, that bum needs to go.
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Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by jojomellon:
Originally posted by KRS-1:

-While I think Goldson hasn't earned an extension, tendering him would make a lot of sense. New DB coaches and new DC give him another year. If someone chooses to match the tender we could let him walk for a draft pick (depending on what the tender amount is)

-2 years is not too much for Spikes and sends zero message. It doesn't guarantee a roster spot for either year, he still has to earn it. Vets get these kind of deals all the time and it doesn't mean he'd be here for 2 more years.

-Washington gives you an additional player with return skills yes, however he'd be over a year removed from the broken leg. He is a change of pace back to Gore/Dixon and has proven before the broken leg his worth as a pass catcher out of the backfield as well.

Goldson will be an unrestricted free agent unless the new cba ups the amount of years needed for free agency, which i doubt it will.

I didn't look it up, just went with what GEEK had as he is usually got his s**t straight. With him being an UFA, I'd let him test the open market.

I am assuming the current format of terms for the mock, which will make goldson a FFA.
I thought AB had him as a UFA
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Originally posted by GEEK:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by jojomellon:
Originally posted by KRS-1:

-While I think Goldson hasn't earned an extension, tendering him would make a lot of sense. New DB coaches and new DC give him another year. If someone chooses to match the tender we could let him walk for a draft pick (depending on what the tender amount is)

-2 years is not too much for Spikes and sends zero message. It doesn't guarantee a roster spot for either year, he still has to earn it. Vets get these kind of deals all the time and it doesn't mean he'd be here for 2 more years.

-Washington gives you an additional player with return skills yes, however he'd be over a year removed from the broken leg. He is a change of pace back to Gore/Dixon and has proven before the broken leg his worth as a pass catcher out of the backfield as well.

Goldson will be an unrestricted free agent unless the new cba ups the amount of years needed for free agency, which i doubt it will.

I didn't look it up, just went with what GEEK had as he is usually got his s**t straight. With him being an UFA, I'd let him test the open market.

I am assuming the current format of terms for the mock, which will make goldson a RFA.