Coaching Changes -
HC: Jim Harbaugh (Stanford's Head Coach, former QB and QB Coach in NFL)
OC/Ast. HC: Bill Callahan (NYJ's O-line/Ast. HC, former HC and OC in NFL)
QB: Mike Sheppard (Bengals WR Coach, former NFL QB Coach)
RB: Tom Rathman
TE: Greg Roman (Stanford's TE Coach)
WR: Jerry Sullivan, Pep Hamilton (Stanford's WR Coach, former 49ers QB coach)
OL: Mike Solari, Ray Brown
DC: Marvin Lewis (Bengals Head Coach, former Ravens DC in 4-3 scheme)
DL: Jim Tomsula
LB: Vic Fangio (DC/LB Coach for Stanford, former NFL DC and LB coach)
DB: Kevin Coyle (Current DB coach for Bengals), Rod Woodson (current Bengals DB Coach Intern)
ST: Brian Polian (Stanford's ST Coordinator)
Personnel Changes -
Gone/Cut:
Alex Smith - QB
David Carr - QB
Nate Davis - QB
Brian Westbrook - RB
Moran Norris - FB (cut)
Barry Sims - OT
David Baas - OG/C
DeMetric Evans - DT/DE
Aubrayo Franklin - NT
Will James - CB
Nate Clements - CB (cut)
Resign:
Manny Lawson - LB (Franchise)
DaShon Goldson - S (RFA - 1 year)
Ray McDonald - DT (RFA - 1 year)
Tory Smith - QB (RFA - 1 year)
Tony Wragge - OT/OG/C (2 year, 3M)
Alex Boone - OT (1 year, min.)
Takeo Spikes - LB (2 year, 6M)
Travis La Boy - DE (1 year, 2M)
Free Agency:
Leon Washington - RB/KR - 3 year, 9M (Seahawks)
Logan Mankins - OG - 5 year, 35M (Patriots)
Johnathan Joseph - CB - 6 year, 42M (Bengals)
Gabe Watson - DT/NT - 2 year, 4M (Cardinals)
Trade:
Chilo Rachal - OG for Raiders 6th round draft pick
49ers 2011 3rd round and 2012 1st round pick for Kevin Kolb - QB - Eagles
NFL Draft:
R1: Nick Fairly - DT - Auburn
R2: Mike Pouncey - C/OG - Florida
R4: Colin Kaepernick - QB - Nevada
R4: Chimdi Chekwa - CB - Ohio State (from Chargers)
R5: Owen Marecic - FB - Stanford
R6: Adam Grant - OT - Arizona
R6: Ryan Whalen - WR - Stanford (from proposed Raiders trade)
R7: Kris Adams - WR - UTEP (practice squad)
Depth Chart:
QB: Kolb*/Smith/Kaepernick*
RB: Gore/Washington*/Dixon
FB: Marecic*
TE: Davis/Walker/Byham
WR: Crabtree/Whalen*
WR: Ginn/Williams
WR: Morgan
LT: Staley/Boone
LG: Mankins*/Wragge
C: Heitmann/Pouncey*
RG: Iupati/Snyder
RT: Davis/Grant*
LE: Smith/McDonald
NT: Sopoaga/Watson*
DT: Fairly*/RJF
RE: La Boy/Haralson
OLB: Lawson/Brooks
ILB: Willis/McKillop
OLB: Spikes/Bowman
CB: Spencer/Brown/Adams
CB: Joseph*/Chekwa*
FS: Goldson/Smith
SS: Mays/Taylor
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GEEK's First Mock Plan/Draft
Nov 25, 2010 at 12:55 PM
- GEEK
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Nov 25, 2010 at 3:21 PM
- SanDiego49er
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It's unrealistic for the Yorks to make that many coaching changes and there are some very high end coordinators in there. Not going to happen on this team.
Nov 25, 2010 at 3:32 PM
- PTulini
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I think they will re-sign David Baas. He has proven to be valuable.
[ Edited by PTulini on Nov 25, 2010 at 15:33:24 ]
[ Edited by PTulini on Nov 25, 2010 at 15:33:24 ]
Nov 25, 2010 at 3:39 PM
- jojomellon
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Mankins turned down 50+ million from the Pats. Hes not signing for a cellar dweller for 35.
And with a new cba, assuming its the same as the previous, would mean that Troy Smith is NOT a RFA but an UFA. Same with McDonald and Goldson. Unless you have inside info that the new CBA will increase the years needed to be a FA?
Jonathan's contract is pretty low too. The last rash of FA-to-be CBs all got around 9-10 mil a year. (Samuel, Trufant, Newman) Joseph on the open market is not going to settle for 6 for 42.
[ Edited by jojomellon on Nov 25, 2010 at 15:52:24 ]
And with a new cba, assuming its the same as the previous, would mean that Troy Smith is NOT a RFA but an UFA. Same with McDonald and Goldson. Unless you have inside info that the new CBA will increase the years needed to be a FA?
Jonathan's contract is pretty low too. The last rash of FA-to-be CBs all got around 9-10 mil a year. (Samuel, Trufant, Newman) Joseph on the open market is not going to settle for 6 for 42.
[ Edited by jojomellon on Nov 25, 2010 at 15:52:24 ]
Nov 25, 2010 at 4:46 PM
- toeknee
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I'm sorry but you lost me at a first for kolb, I don't think he has played enough to warrant that
Nov 25, 2010 at 6:50 PM
- communist
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Quote:
Coaching Changes -
HC: Jim Harbaugh (Stanford's Head Coach, former QB and QB Coach in NFL)
OC/Ast. HC: Bill Callahan (NYJ's O-line/Ast. HC, former HC and OC in NFL)
Quote:
Personnel Changes -
Gone/Cut:
Brian Westbrook - RB why? b/c you haven't seen anything special from him? how many chances has he get so far?
Barry Sims - OT why? he is a solid backup
David Baas - OG/C why? he plays solid at center...would be a wonderful backup for heitmann if not a starter
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Resign:
Manny Lawson - LB (Franchise) since when is manny worth a franchise tag? he is too limited in his opportunities, i.e. he is a run-stopper only.
DaShon Goldson - S (RFA - 1 year) that guy has to go...
Takeo Spikes - LB (2 year, 6M) 2 years is too long b/c this would send a wrong signal to his potential successors
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Free Agency:
Leon Washington - RB/KR - 3 year, 9M (Seahawks) we have ginn jr., its more than enough.
Gabe Watson - DT/NT - 2 year, 4M (Cardinals) and that guy is REALLY good?
Quote:
Trade:
Chilo Rachal - OG for Raiders 6th round draft pick even the raiders arent that stupid anymore...but you could try it with the bills
Quote:
49ers 2011 3rd round and 2012 1st round pick for Kevin Kolb - QB - Eagles
a future 1st-rounder for a relatively unproven QB???
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NFL Draft:
R1: Nick Fairly - DT - Auburn if and only if both top CB-prospects are already off the board with this pick
R2: Mike Pouncey - C/OG - Florida 1.i don't think that mike would be available in the 2nd, 2.our qb-need is every bit as big as at RG if not bigger. hence, i would take a qb here and take a OG in the 4th round.
R4: Colin Kaepernick - QB - Nevada
R4: Chimdi Chekwa - CB - Ohio State (from Chargers)
R5: Owen Marecic - FB - Stanford
R6: Adam Grant - OT - Arizona
R6: Ryan Whalen - WR - Stanford (from proposed Raiders trade)
R7: Kris Adams - WR - UTEP (practice squad)
Nov 25, 2010 at 7:02 PM
- ninergold
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i'm not sold on kolb either. i'm thinking he's going to fetch a 3rd at best.
Nov 25, 2010 at 7:02 PM
- evil
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Interesting you have Callahan....if Gruden goes back to the sidelines, don't be shocked to see him go with Chucky yet again. Either way, Callahan is a great OL coach as well, so to bring him in to be an OC once more would add another coach with great experience and a track record in the trenches.
Nov 25, 2010 at 7:11 PM
- evil
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Originally posted by communist:Quote:
Coaching Changes -
HC: Jim Harbaugh (Stanford's Head Coach, former QB and QB Coach in NFL)
OC/Ast. HC: Bill Callahan (NYJ's O-line/Ast. HC, former HC and OC in NFL)Quote:
Personnel Changes -
Gone/Cut:
Brian Westbrook - RB why? b/c you haven't seen anything special from him? how many chances has he get so far?
Barry Sims - OT why? he is a solid backup
David Baas - OG/C why? he plays solid at center...would be a wonderful backup for heitmann if not a starter
Quote:
Resign:
Manny Lawson - LB (Franchise) since when is manny worth a franchise tag? he is too limited in his opportunities, i.e. he is a run-stopper only.
DaShon Goldson - S (RFA - 1 year) that guy has to go...
Takeo Spikes - LB (2 year, 6M) 2 years is too long b/c this would send a wrong signal to his potential successors
Quote:
Free Agency:
Leon Washington - RB/KR - 3 year, 9M (Seahawks) we have ginn jr., its more than enough.
Gabe Watson - DT/NT - 2 year, 4M (Cardinals) and that guy is REALLY good?
Quote:
Trade:
Chilo Rachal - OG for Raiders 6th round draft pick even the raiders arent that stupid anymore...but you could try it with the bills
Quote:
49ers 2011 3rd round and 2012 1st round pick for Kevin Kolb - QB - Eagles
a future 1st-rounder for a relatively unproven QB???
Quote:
NFL Draft:
R1: Nick Fairly - DT - Auburn if and only if both top CB-prospects are already off the board with this pick
R2: Mike Pouncey - C/OG - Florida 1.i don't think that mike would be available in the 2nd, 2.our qb-need is every bit as big as at RG if not bigger. hence, i would take a qb here and take a OG in the 4th round.
R4: Colin Kaepernick - QB - Nevada
R4: Chimdi Chekwa - CB - Ohio State (from Chargers)
R5: Owen Marecic - FB - Stanford
R6: Adam Grant - OT - Arizona
R6: Ryan Whalen - WR - Stanford (from proposed Raiders trade)
R7: Kris Adams - WR - UTEP (practice squad)
-Baas I can see as someone who gets overpaid ont he open market because he put together his first decent year.
-While I think Goldson hasn't earned an extension, tendering him would make a lot of sense. New DB coaches and new DC give him another year. If someone chooses to match the tender we could let him walk for a draft pick (depending on what the tender amount is)
-2 years is not too much for Spikes and sends zero message. It doesn't guarantee a roster spot for either year, he still has to earn it. Vets get these kind of deals all the time and it doesn't mean he'd be here for 2 more years.
-Washington gives you an additional player with return skills yes, however he'd be over a year removed from the broken leg. He is a change of pace back to Gore/Dixon and has proven before the broken leg his worth as a pass catcher out of the backfield as well.
Nov 25, 2010 at 7:48 PM
- jojomellon
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Originally posted by KRS-1:
-While I think Goldson hasn't earned an extension, tendering him would make a lot of sense. New DB coaches and new DC give him another year. If someone chooses to match the tender we could let him walk for a draft pick (depending on what the tender amount is)
-2 years is not too much for Spikes and sends zero message. It doesn't guarantee a roster spot for either year, he still has to earn it. Vets get these kind of deals all the time and it doesn't mean he'd be here for 2 more years.
-Washington gives you an additional player with return skills yes, however he'd be over a year removed from the broken leg. He is a change of pace back to Gore/Dixon and has proven before the broken leg his worth as a pass catcher out of the backfield as well.
Goldson will be an unrestricted free agent unless the new cba ups the amount of years needed for free agency, which i doubt it will.
Nov 25, 2010 at 7:53 PM
- evil
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Originally posted by jojomellon:Originally posted by KRS-1:
-While I think Goldson hasn't earned an extension, tendering him would make a lot of sense. New DB coaches and new DC give him another year. If someone chooses to match the tender we could let him walk for a draft pick (depending on what the tender amount is)
-2 years is not too much for Spikes and sends zero message. It doesn't guarantee a roster spot for either year, he still has to earn it. Vets get these kind of deals all the time and it doesn't mean he'd be here for 2 more years.
-Washington gives you an additional player with return skills yes, however he'd be over a year removed from the broken leg. He is a change of pace back to Gore/Dixon and has proven before the broken leg his worth as a pass catcher out of the backfield as well.
Goldson will be an unrestricted free agent unless the new cba ups the amount of years needed for free agency, which i doubt it will.
I didn't look it up, just went with what GEEK had as he is usually got his s**t straight. With him being an UFA, I'd let him test the open market.
Nov 25, 2010 at 8:33 PM
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I agree with ALMOST EVERYTHING but the 'Jerry Sullivan' bit, that bum needs to go.
Nov 25, 2010 at 8:43 PM
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Originally posted by KRS-1:Originally posted by jojomellon:Originally posted by KRS-1:
-While I think Goldson hasn't earned an extension, tendering him would make a lot of sense. New DB coaches and new DC give him another year. If someone chooses to match the tender we could let him walk for a draft pick (depending on what the tender amount is)
-2 years is not too much for Spikes and sends zero message. It doesn't guarantee a roster spot for either year, he still has to earn it. Vets get these kind of deals all the time and it doesn't mean he'd be here for 2 more years.
-Washington gives you an additional player with return skills yes, however he'd be over a year removed from the broken leg. He is a change of pace back to Gore/Dixon and has proven before the broken leg his worth as a pass catcher out of the backfield as well.
Goldson will be an unrestricted free agent unless the new cba ups the amount of years needed for free agency, which i doubt it will.
I didn't look it up, just went with what GEEK had as he is usually got his s**t straight. With him being an UFA, I'd let him test the open market.
I am assuming the current format of terms for the mock, which will make goldson a FFA.
Nov 25, 2010 at 8:54 PM
- toeknee
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I thought AB had him as a UFA
Nov 25, 2010 at 9:04 PM
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Originally posted by GEEK:Originally posted by KRS-1:Originally posted by jojomellon:Originally posted by KRS-1:
-While I think Goldson hasn't earned an extension, tendering him would make a lot of sense. New DB coaches and new DC give him another year. If someone chooses to match the tender we could let him walk for a draft pick (depending on what the tender amount is)
-2 years is not too much for Spikes and sends zero message. It doesn't guarantee a roster spot for either year, he still has to earn it. Vets get these kind of deals all the time and it doesn't mean he'd be here for 2 more years.
-Washington gives you an additional player with return skills yes, however he'd be over a year removed from the broken leg. He is a change of pace back to Gore/Dixon and has proven before the broken leg his worth as a pass catcher out of the backfield as well.
Goldson will be an unrestricted free agent unless the new cba ups the amount of years needed for free agency, which i doubt it will.
I didn't look it up, just went with what GEEK had as he is usually got his s**t straight. With him being an UFA, I'd let him test the open market.
I am assuming the current format of terms for the mock, which will make goldson a RFA.