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Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Trade our 2nd for Kolb, bring in Gruden, and we're looking pretty good.

I rather keep our 2nd, draft Stanzi and bring in Murlarkey. Sorry, Gruden is not my first choice like everyone else around here.

And who would be the starter at QB? We have a small window of opportunity, we need to bring in a vet that can start and be at least solid right away.

Well Troy Smith is putting on a good showing, and Pennington will be available. We could always go Matt Hasselbeck as a stop-gap QB for maybe half the season.


And.... at the end of all of that we STILL won't have a QB.

Why wouldn't we, we would be grooming Stanzi.
our #1 priority this off season HAS to be to bring in a QB that can take us to the promise land.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Trade our 2nd for Kolb, bring in Gruden, and we're looking pretty good.

I rather keep our 2nd, draft Stanzi and bring in Murlarkey. Sorry, Gruden is not my first choice like everyone else around here.

And who would be the starter at QB? We have a small window of opportunity, we need to bring in a vet that can start and be at least solid right away.

Well Troy Smith is putting on a good showing, and Pennington will be available. We could always go Matt Hasselbeck as a stop-gap QB for maybe half the season.

Really? SMH
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
our #1 priority this off season HAS to be to bring in a QB that can take us to the promise land.

+1 Even if Patrick Patterson is available. We need a new QB, new hope, new buzz, new hype, new moxie... we don't have any of that. Kolb may be pretty good, but I'd rather roll the dice on Mallett.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Trade our 2nd for Kolb, bring in Gruden, and we're looking pretty good.

I rather keep our 2nd, draft Stanzi and bring in Murlarkey. Sorry, Gruden is not my first choice like everyone else around here.

And who would be the starter at QB? We have a small window of opportunity, we need to bring in a vet that can start and be at least solid right away.

Well Troy Smith is putting on a good showing, and Pennington will be available. We could always go Matt Hasselbeck as a stop-gap QB for maybe half the season.


is that you jed???
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
our #1 priority this off season HAS to be to bring in a QB that can take us to the promise land.

+1 Even if Patrick Patterson is available. We need a new QB, new hope, new buzz, new hype, new moxie... we don't have any of that. Kolb may be pretty good, but I'd rather roll the dice on Mallett.

I would take Patrick Peterson on my list over any QB in the draft besides Luck who may be gone or may not declare. I really like Stanzi alot and have been keeping my eye on him since the beginning of the season but hes not worth to pick that high up. We are getting torched by QB's and WR's in games and it really puts us in a bind. We know we are preety good against the run but we struggle against the pass (especially deep balls). If we cant stop teams from throwing the ball over our heads for TD's then we have no chance at winning games. Peterson really puts on a good show when you watch him play. I watched him shut down Julio Jones (me being a Bama fan) and he just showed so much fire and intensity to me. I would love to have this guy. He has a great physique build to him and is tough and hard nosed. If he is there I would take him over Locker, Mallet, Ponder, Devlin.
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Originally posted by YorkHater:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Trade our 2nd for Kolb, bring in Gruden, and we're looking pretty good.

I rather keep our 2nd, draft Stanzi and bring in Murlarkey. Sorry, Gruden is not my first choice like everyone else around here.

And who would be the starter at QB? We have a small window of opportunity, we need to bring in a vet that can start and be at least solid right away.

Well Troy Smith is putting on a good showing, and Pennington will be available. We could always go Matt Hasselbeck as a stop-gap QB for maybe half the season.


is that you jed???

What does Jed have to do with anything.

What don't you understand about bringing in a vet QB to groom your rookie??
Hire Brian Billick, keep Troy Smith, draft a QB in the 2nd
Originally posted by NC49erfan82:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
our #1 priority this off season HAS to be to bring in a QB that can take us to the promise land.

+1 Even if Patrick Patterson is available. We need a new QB, new hope, new buzz, new hype, new moxie... we don't have any of that. Kolb may be pretty good, but I'd rather roll the dice on Mallett.

I would take Patrick Peterson on my list over any QB in the draft besides Luck who may be gone or may not declare. I really like Stanzi alot and have been keeping my eye on him since the beginning of the season but hes not worth to pick that high up. We are getting torched by QB's and WR's in games and it really puts us in a bind. We know we are preety good against the run but we struggle against the pass (especially deep balls). If we cant stop teams from throwing the ball over our heads for TD's then we have no chance at winning games. Peterson really puts on a good show when you watch him play. I watched him shut down Julio Jones (me being a Bama fan) and he just showed so much fire and intensity to me. I would love to have this guy. He has a great physique build to him and is tough and hard nosed. If he is there I would take him over Locker, Mallet, Ponder, Devlin.

+1

Lions will get him. Theyre 2-6 Stafford is likely out for season, they dont have a QB. Theyll have a top 5 pick and draft him
[ Edited by CrAnKD4TCRabTree on Nov 12, 2010 at 12:38 PM ]
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Originally posted by NC49erfan82:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
our #1 priority this off season HAS to be to bring in a QB that can take us to the promise land.

+1 Even if Patrick Patterson is available. We need a new QB, new hope, new buzz, new hype, new moxie... we don't have any of that. Kolb may be pretty good, but I'd rather roll the dice on Mallett.

I would take Patrick Peterson on my list over any QB in the draft besides Luck who may be gone or may not declare. I really like Stanzi alot and have been keeping my eye on him since the beginning of the season but hes not worth to pick that high up. We are getting torched by QB's and WR's in games and it really puts us in a bind. We know we are preety good against the run but we struggle against the pass (especially deep balls). If we cant stop teams from throwing the ball over our heads for TD's then we have no chance at winning games. Peterson really puts on a good show when you watch him play. I watched him shut down Julio Jones (me being a Bama fan) and he just showed so much fire and intensity to me. I would love to have this guy. He has a great physique build to him and is tough and hard nosed. If he is there I would take him over Locker, Mallet, Ponder, Devlin.

+1

I realize that Patrick Peterson is going to be the next elite CB talent. But when it comes down to it, the teams vying for championships have franchise QBs, and until we have one of those, we will continue to be in a position to continually draft elite talented skill position players like Crabtree, Davis, Willis, and potentially A. Davis. If we are to become a championship caliber team, we need to start by selecting a QB high in the draft. Its also a perfect situation for a rookie to be successful, with an improving O-line, quality skill position players, and a good (or at least I like to think it is) defense. Add on a new coaching staff, and you have an instant turnaround situation.
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Originally posted by NC49erfan82:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
our #1 priority this off season HAS to be to bring in a QB that can take us to the promise land.

+1 Even if Patrick Patterson is available. We need a new QB, new hope, new buzz, new hype, new moxie... we don't have any of that. Kolb may be pretty good, but I'd rather roll the dice on Mallett.

I would take Patrick Peterson on my list over any QB in the draft besides Luck who may be gone or may not declare. I really like Stanzi alot and have been keeping my eye on him since the beginning of the season but hes not worth to pick that high up. We are getting torched by QB's and WR's in games and it really puts us in a bind. We know we are preety good against the run but we struggle against the pass (especially deep balls). If we cant stop teams from throwing the ball over our heads for TD's then we have no chance at winning games. Peterson really puts on a good show when you watch him play. I watched him shut down Julio Jones (me being a Bama fan) and he just showed so much fire and intensity to me. I would love to have this guy. He has a great physique build to him and is tough and hard nosed. If he is there I would take him over Locker, Mallet, Ponder, Devlin.

+1

I realize that Patrick Peterson is going to be the next elite CB talent. But when it comes down to it, the teams vying for championships have franchise QBs, and until we have one of those, we will continue to be in a position to continually draft elite talented skill position players like Crabtree, Davis, Willis, and potentially A. Davis. If we are to become a championship caliber team, we need to start by selecting a QB high in the draft. Its also a perfect situation for a rookie to be successful, with an improving O-line, quality skill position players, and a good (or at least I like to think it is) defense. Add on a new coaching staff, and you have an instant turnaround situation.

I agree, if we're in position to land a franchise QB in the 1st round, we need to pull the trigger or see if we can move up a couple spots to get one. But if the top QB's are taken, then we need to draft Patrick Peterson without a doubt. Then take the best available QB in the 2nd round or jump back in the late 1st. Its not like we haven't been coming away with two 1st round picks or moving up or down in the draft anyway. But if there's a chance to move up in the draft, this is time we really need to do it. But if we do miss in the first two rounds, we need to do what we did in the 2000 draft and select two QB's.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by binary2nd:
Trade our 2nd for Kolb, bring in Gruden, and we're looking pretty good.

I rather keep our 2nd, draft Stanzi and bring in Murlarkey. Sorry, Gruden is not my first choice like everyone else around here.

Didn't Mularky completely flop in his last opportunity as a head coach? I don't know, I'm just nervous about these guys who don't at least have a little bit of a good track record.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Originally posted by NC49erfan82:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
our #1 priority this off season HAS to be to bring in a QB that can take us to the promise land.

+1 Even if Patrick Patterson is available. We need a new QB, new hope, new buzz, new hype, new moxie... we don't have any of that. Kolb may be pretty good, but I'd rather roll the dice on Mallett.

I would take Patrick Peterson on my list over any QB in the draft besides Luck who may be gone or may not declare. I really like Stanzi alot and have been keeping my eye on him since the beginning of the season but hes not worth to pick that high up. We are getting torched by QB's and WR's in games and it really puts us in a bind. We know we are preety good against the run but we struggle against the pass (especially deep balls). If we cant stop teams from throwing the ball over our heads for TD's then we have no chance at winning games. Peterson really puts on a good show when you watch him play. I watched him shut down Julio Jones (me being a Bama fan) and he just showed so much fire and intensity to me. I would love to have this guy. He has a great physique build to him and is tough and hard nosed. If he is there I would take him over Locker, Mallet, Ponder, Devlin.

+1

I realize that Patrick Peterson is going to be the next elite CB talent. But when it comes down to it, the teams vying for championships have franchise QBs, and until we have one of those, we will continue to be in a position to continually draft elite talented skill position players like Crabtree, Davis, Willis, and potentially A. Davis. If we are to become a championship caliber team, we need to start by selecting a QB high in the draft. Its also a perfect situation for a rookie to be successful, with an improving O-line, quality skill position players, and a good (or at least I like to think it is) defense. Add on a new coaching staff, and you have an instant turnaround situation.

I agree, if we're in position to land a franchise QB in the 1st round, we need to pull the trigger or see if we can move up a couple spots to get one. But if the top QB's are taken, then we need to draft Patrick Peterson without a doubt. Then take the best available QB in the 2nd round or jump back in the late 1st. Its not like we haven't been coming away with two 1st round picks or moving up or down in the draft anyway. But if there's a chance to move up in the draft, this is time we really need to do it. But if we do miss in the first two rounds, we need to do what we did in the 2000 draft and select two QB's.

I don't care if we have to mortgage the farm, we have to get a new QB. Its got to be rookie too. And we just have to hope that Mallett or Locker or Stanzi or Ponder will be it, but its got to be now!

1st Round QBs:
2010: Bradford, Tebow
2009: Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman
2008: Ryan, Flacco
2007: Russel, Quinn

Bradford, Sanchez, Freeman, Ryan, and Flacco seem to be franchise QBs. 56%

Remains to be seen: Tebow, Stafford 22%

Busts: Russell, Quinn 22%

A better situation than we have now: 78%!!!! Not bad!!!