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Oct 26, 2010 at 12:09 AM
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should niners have taken dez bryant rather davis or iupati?
Oct 26, 2010 at 12:11 AM
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yes but this team was no way in hell gonna take another 1st rd wr
Oct 26, 2010 at 12:13 AM
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Originally posted by hofer36:
should niners have taken dez bryant rather davis or iupati?
Dez Bryant looks phenomenal. He's a spectacular athlete and an electric player. It's too early to grade him out as he is young. But I feel many teams will kick themselves for not picking him. And BTW he's much better than Crabtree who is a slow possession WR who will NEVER compare to Dez Bryant.
[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Oct 26, 2010 at 00:14:08 ]
Oct 26, 2010 at 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by hofer36:
should niners have taken dez bryant rather davis or iupati?
Dez Bryant looks phenomenal. He's a spectacular athlete and an electric player. It's too early to grade him out as he is young. But I feel many teams will kick themselves for not picking him. And BTW he's much better than Crabtree who is a slow possession WR who will NEVER compare to Dez Bryant.
Dez Bryant has Jason Witten, Roy Williams, and Miles Austin drawing attention away from him.
Crabtree does his work against opposing team's number one corner Bryant's doing his thing against nickel corners.
Oct 26, 2010 at 12:22 AM
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Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by hofer36:
should niners have taken dez bryant rather davis or iupati?
Dez Bryant looks phenomenal. He's a spectacular athlete and an electric player. It's too early to grade him out as he is young. But I feel many teams will kick themselves for not picking him. And BTW he's much better than Crabtree who is a slow possession WR who will NEVER compare to Dez Bryant.
Dez Bryant has Jason Witten, Roy Williams, and Miles Austin drawing attention away from him.
Crabtree does his work against opposing team's number one corner Bryant's doing his thing against nickel corners.
Crabtree DOES NOT have the speed or explosiveness of Dez Bryant. First of all you would NEVER put Crabtree back to return kicks because he's not explosive enough. And if you did he would never bring it back to the house like Bryant. Dez Bryant is the superior athlete all the way around. Bigger, faster, stronger, more exlosive, more instinctive, more energy and less DIVA.
Oct 26, 2010 at 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by hofer36:
should niners have taken dez bryant rather davis or iupati?
Dez Bryant looks phenomenal. He's a spectacular athlete and an electric player. It's too early to grade him out as he is young. But I feel many teams will kick themselves for not picking him. And BTW he's much better than Crabtree who is a slow possession WR who will NEVER compare to Dez Bryant.
Dez Bryant has Jason Witten, Roy Williams, and Miles Austin drawing attention away from him.
Crabtree does his work against opposing team's number one corner Bryant's doing his thing against nickel corners.
Crabtree DOES NOT have the speed or explosiveness of Dez Bryant. First of all you would NEVER put Crabtree back to return kicks because he's not explosive enough. And if you did he would never bring it back to the house like Bryant. Dez Bryant is the superior athlete all the way around. Bigger, faster, stronger, more exlosive, more instinctive, more energy and less DIVA.
Frankly I don't care if Crabtree isn't a punt returner. How many elite receivers do you see returning punts? Jackson, Welker, Harvin and that's it.
As a receiver wake me up when the guy does something other than taking a screen pass to the end zone. That's alot easier to do when teams actually respect your surroundings. See Welker.
Less Diva, LOL. You clearly don't pay attention to the guy. He's no different than Crabtree in that department.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Oct 26, 2010 at 12:42 AM ]
Oct 26, 2010 at 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by hofer36:
should niners have taken dez bryant rather davis or iupati?
Dez Bryant looks phenomenal. He's a spectacular athlete and an electric player. It's too early to grade him out as he is young. But I feel many teams will kick themselves for not picking him. And BTW he's much better than Crabtree who is a slow possession WR who will NEVER compare to Dez Bryant.
Dez Bryant has Jason Witten, Roy Williams, and Miles Austin drawing attention away from him.
Crabtree does his work against opposing team's number one corner Bryant's doing his thing against nickel corners.
Crabtree DOES NOT have the speed or explosiveness of Dez Bryant. First of all you would NEVER put Crabtree back to return kicks because he's not explosive enough. And if you did he would never bring it back to the house like Bryant. Dez Bryant is the superior athlete all the way around. Bigger, faster, stronger, more exlosive, more instinctive, more energy and less DIVA.
Frankly I don't care if Crabtree isn't a punt returner. How many elite receivers do you see returning punts? Jackson, Welker, Harvin and that's it.
As a receiver wake me up when the guy does something other than taking a screen pass to the end zone. That's alot easier to do when teams actually respect your surroundings. See Welker and Moss.
Less Diva, LOL. You clearly don't pay attention to the guy. He's no different than Crabtree in that department.
Bryant has more speed and explosiveness for sure. Not that there isn't a place for a Crabtree type of player. But Crabs will always be a slower possession type WR lacking explosion and speed.
Oct 26, 2010 at 12:48 AM
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by hofer36:
should niners have taken dez bryant rather davis or iupati?
Dez Bryant looks phenomenal. He's a spectacular athlete and an electric player. It's too early to grade him out as he is young. But I feel many teams will kick themselves for not picking him. And BTW he's much better than Crabtree who is a slow possession WR who will NEVER compare to Dez Bryant.
Dez Bryant has Jason Witten, Roy Williams, and Miles Austin drawing attention away from him.
Crabtree does his work against opposing team's number one corner Bryant's doing his thing against nickel corners.
Crabtree DOES NOT have the speed or explosiveness of Dez Bryant. First of all you would NEVER put Crabtree back to return kicks because he's not explosive enough. And if you did he would never bring it back to the house like Bryant. Dez Bryant is the superior athlete all the way around. Bigger, faster, stronger, more exlosive, more instinctive, more energy and less DIVA.
Frankly I don't care if Crabtree isn't a punt returner. How many elite receivers do you see returning punts? Jackson, Welker, Harvin and that's it.
As a receiver wake me up when the guy does something other than taking a screen pass to the end zone. That's alot easier to do when teams actually respect your surroundings. See Welker and Moss.
Less Diva, LOL. You clearly don't pay attention to the guy. He's no different than Crabtree in that department.
Bryant has more speed and explosiveness for sure. Not that there isn't a place for a Crabtree type of player. But Crabs will always be a slower possession type WR lacking explosion and speed.
I don't see how you figure Bryant is stronger than Crab's, I'm not even sure you watched either of these guys in college if you feel you can just say that...
Bryant = Run away from you with speed
Crab's = Breaks of tackles and runs while you are on the ground
also instincts? out of your mind...if Crab's had the speed of Dez Bryant he would be doing to the NFL what he did to college teams..
I'll take Crab's route running, strength and HANDS over Dez any day...and he's only going to get better.
Oct 26, 2010 at 12:50 AM
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Originally posted by MaliCali:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by hofer36:
should niners have taken dez bryant rather davis or iupati?
Dez Bryant looks phenomenal. He's a spectacular athlete and an electric player. It's too early to grade him out as he is young. But I feel many teams will kick themselves for not picking him. And BTW he's much better than Crabtree who is a slow possession WR who will NEVER compare to Dez Bryant.
Dez Bryant has Jason Witten, Roy Williams, and Miles Austin drawing attention away from him.
Crabtree does his work against opposing team's number one corner Bryant's doing his thing against nickel corners.
Crabtree DOES NOT have the speed or explosiveness of Dez Bryant. First of all you would NEVER put Crabtree back to return kicks because he's not explosive enough. And if you did he would never bring it back to the house like Bryant. Dez Bryant is the superior athlete all the way around. Bigger, faster, stronger, more exlosive, more instinctive, more energy and less DIVA.
Frankly I don't care if Crabtree isn't a punt returner. How many elite receivers do you see returning punts? Jackson, Welker, Harvin and that's it.
As a receiver wake me up when the guy does something other than taking a screen pass to the end zone. That's alot easier to do when teams actually respect your surroundings. See Welker and Moss.
Less Diva, LOL. You clearly don't pay attention to the guy. He's no different than Crabtree in that department.
Bryant has more speed and explosiveness for sure. Not that there isn't a place for a Crabtree type of player. But Crabs will always be a slower possession type WR lacking explosion and speed.
I don't see how you figure Bryant is stronger than Crab's, I'm not even sure you watched either of these guys in college if you feel you can just say that...
Bryant = Run away from you with speed
Crab's = Breaks of tackles and runs while you are on the ground
also instincts? out of your mind...if Crab's had the speed of Dez Bryant he would be doing to the NFL what he did to college teams..
I'll take Crab's route running, strength and HANDS over Dez any day...and he's only going to get better.
But he doesn't have the speed of Dez Bryant you see...
Oct 26, 2010 at 12:51 AM
- tjd808185
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by hofer36:
should niners have taken dez bryant rather davis or iupati?
Dez Bryant looks phenomenal. He's a spectacular athlete and an electric player. It's too early to grade him out as he is young. But I feel many teams will kick themselves for not picking him. And BTW he's much better than Crabtree who is a slow possession WR who will NEVER compare to Dez Bryant.
Dez Bryant has Jason Witten, Roy Williams, and Miles Austin drawing attention away from him.
Crabtree does his work against opposing team's number one corner Bryant's doing his thing against nickel corners.
Crabtree DOES NOT have the speed or explosiveness of Dez Bryant. First of all you would NEVER put Crabtree back to return kicks because he's not explosive enough. And if you did he would never bring it back to the house like Bryant. Dez Bryant is the superior athlete all the way around. Bigger, faster, stronger, more exlosive, more instinctive, more energy and less DIVA.
Frankly I don't care if Crabtree isn't a punt returner. How many elite receivers do you see returning punts? Jackson, Welker, Harvin and that's it.
As a receiver wake me up when the guy does something other than taking a screen pass to the end zone. That's alot easier to do when teams actually respect your surroundings. See Welker and Moss.
Less Diva, LOL. You clearly don't pay attention to the guy. He's no different than Crabtree in that department.
Bryant has more speed and explosiveness for sure. Not that there isn't a place for a Crabtree type of player. But Crabs will always be a slower possession type WR lacking explosion and speed.
I don't see why people care about this anyways. It's not like we picked Crabtree over Bryant. There's not an organization in football that thinks well next year there's "x" guy coming out let's wait to grab him.
Would I take Oher and Bryant over Crabs and Davis. Hell yeah but you can only draft one year at a time.
Oct 26, 2010 at 12:51 AM
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by hofer36:
should niners have taken dez bryant rather davis or iupati?
Dez Bryant looks phenomenal. He's a spectacular athlete and an electric player. It's too early to grade him out as he is young. But I feel many teams will kick themselves for not picking him. And BTW he's much better than Crabtree who is a slow possession WR who will NEVER compare to Dez Bryant.
Dez Bryant has Jason Witten, Roy Williams, and Miles Austin drawing attention away from him.
Crabtree does his work against opposing team's number one corner Bryant's doing his thing against nickel corners.
Crabtree DOES NOT have the speed or explosiveness of Dez Bryant. First of all you would NEVER put Crabtree back to return kicks because he's not explosive enough. And if you did he would never bring it back to the house like Bryant. Dez Bryant is the superior athlete all the way around. Bigger, faster, stronger, more exlosive, more instinctive, more energy and less DIVA.
Frankly I don't care if Crabtree isn't a punt returner. How many elite receivers do you see returning punts? Jackson, Welker, Harvin and that's it.
As a receiver wake me up when the guy does something other than taking a screen pass to the end zone. That's alot easier to do when teams actually respect your surroundings. See Welker and Moss.
Less Diva, LOL. You clearly don't pay attention to the guy. He's no different than Crabtree in that department.
Bryant has more speed and explosiveness for sure. Not that there isn't a place for a Crabtree type of player. But Crabs will always be a slower possession type WR lacking explosion and speed.
Everything you're saying about Dez Bryant, is exactly what they said of Felix Jones. He was very explosive his rookie season returning kicks and running the ball. But what has he done since then?
Oct 26, 2010 at 12:52 AM
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Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by hofer36:
should niners have taken dez bryant rather davis or iupati?
Dez Bryant looks phenomenal. He's a spectacular athlete and an electric player. It's too early to grade him out as he is young. But I feel many teams will kick themselves for not picking him. And BTW he's much better than Crabtree who is a slow possession WR who will NEVER compare to Dez Bryant.
Dez Bryant has Jason Witten, Roy Williams, and Miles Austin drawing attention away from him.
Crabtree does his work against opposing team's number one corner Bryant's doing his thing against nickel corners.
Crabtree DOES NOT have the speed or explosiveness of Dez Bryant. First of all you would NEVER put Crabtree back to return kicks because he's not explosive enough. And if you did he would never bring it back to the house like Bryant. Dez Bryant is the superior athlete all the way around. Bigger, faster, stronger, more exlosive, more instinctive, more energy and less DIVA.
Frankly I don't care if Crabtree isn't a punt returner. How many elite receivers do you see returning punts? Jackson, Welker, Harvin and that's it.
As a receiver wake me up when the guy does something other than taking a screen pass to the end zone. That's alot easier to do when teams actually respect your surroundings. See Welker and Moss.
Less Diva, LOL. You clearly don't pay attention to the guy. He's no different than Crabtree in that department.
Bryant has more speed and explosiveness for sure. Not that there isn't a place for a Crabtree type of player. But Crabs will always be a slower possession type WR lacking explosion and speed.
I don't see why people care about this anyways. It's not like we picked Crabtree over Bryant. There's not an organization in football that thinks well next year there's "x" guy coming out let's wait to grab him.
Would I take Oher and Bryant over Crabs and Davis. Hell yeah but you can only draft one year at a time.
LOL. This team is so bad at drafting...
Oct 26, 2010 at 12:54 AM
- MaliCali
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by MaliCali:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by hofer36:
should niners have taken dez bryant rather davis or iupati?
Dez Bryant looks phenomenal. He's a spectacular athlete and an electric player. It's too early to grade him out as he is young. But I feel many teams will kick themselves for not picking him. And BTW he's much better than Crabtree who is a slow possession WR who will NEVER compare to Dez Bryant.
Dez Bryant has Jason Witten, Roy Williams, and Miles Austin drawing attention away from him.
Crabtree does his work against opposing team's number one corner Bryant's doing his thing against nickel corners.
Crabtree DOES NOT have the speed or explosiveness of Dez Bryant. First of all you would NEVER put Crabtree back to return kicks because he's not explosive enough. And if you did he would never bring it back to the house like Bryant. Dez Bryant is the superior athlete all the way around. Bigger, faster, stronger, more exlosive, more instinctive, more energy and less DIVA.
Frankly I don't care if Crabtree isn't a punt returner. How many elite receivers do you see returning punts? Jackson, Welker, Harvin and that's it.
As a receiver wake me up when the guy does something other than taking a screen pass to the end zone. That's alot easier to do when teams actually respect your surroundings. See Welker and Moss.
Less Diva, LOL. You clearly don't pay attention to the guy. He's no different than Crabtree in that department.
Bryant has more speed and explosiveness for sure. Not that there isn't a place for a Crabtree type of player. But Crabs will always be a slower possession type WR lacking explosion and speed.
I don't see how you figure Bryant is stronger than Crab's, I'm not even sure you watched either of these guys in college if you feel you can just say that...
Bryant = Run away from you with speed
Crab's = Breaks of tackles and runs while you are on the ground
also instincts? out of your mind...if Crab's had the speed of Dez Bryant he would be doing to the NFL what he did to college teams..
I'll take Crab's route running, strength and HANDS over Dez any day...and he's only going to get better.
But he doesn't have the speed of Dez Bryant you see...
Who cares?
in the last 13 years there have been 3 receivers who have come out possessing just about all of the measurable's you could ask for..
..Randy Moss
..Larry Fitzgerald
..Calvin Johnson
Oct 26, 2010 at 12:58 AM
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Originally posted by MaliCali:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by MaliCali:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by hofer36:
should niners have taken dez bryant rather davis or iupati?
Dez Bryant looks phenomenal. He's a spectacular athlete and an electric player. It's too early to grade him out as he is young. But I feel many teams will kick themselves for not picking him. And BTW he's much better than Crabtree who is a slow possession WR who will NEVER compare to Dez Bryant.
Dez Bryant has Jason Witten, Roy Williams, and Miles Austin drawing attention away from him.
Crabtree does his work against opposing team's number one corner Bryant's doing his thing against nickel corners.
Crabtree DOES NOT have the speed or explosiveness of Dez Bryant. First of all you would NEVER put Crabtree back to return kicks because he's not explosive enough. And if you did he would never bring it back to the house like Bryant. Dez Bryant is the superior athlete all the way around. Bigger, faster, stronger, more exlosive, more instinctive, more energy and less DIVA.
Frankly I don't care if Crabtree isn't a punt returner. How many elite receivers do you see returning punts? Jackson, Welker, Harvin and that's it.
As a receiver wake me up when the guy does something other than taking a screen pass to the end zone. That's alot easier to do when teams actually respect your surroundings. See Welker and Moss.
Less Diva, LOL. You clearly don't pay attention to the guy. He's no different than Crabtree in that department.
Bryant has more speed and explosiveness for sure. Not that there isn't a place for a Crabtree type of player. But Crabs will always be a slower possession type WR lacking explosion and speed.
I don't see how you figure Bryant is stronger than Crab's, I'm not even sure you watched either of these guys in college if you feel you can just say that...
Bryant = Run away from you with speed
Crab's = Breaks of tackles and runs while you are on the ground
also instincts? out of your mind...if Crab's had the speed of Dez Bryant he would be doing to the NFL what he did to college teams..
I'll take Crab's route running, strength and HANDS over Dez any day...and he's only going to get better.
But he doesn't have the speed of Dez Bryant you see...
Who cares?
in the last 13 years there have been 3 receivers who have come out possessing just about all of the measurable's you could ask for..
..Randy Moss
..Larry Fitzgerald
..Calvin Johnson
Fitzgerald is not that fast. Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson possess every measurable you could dream of.
Oct 26, 2010 at 3:18 AM
- MaliCali
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by MaliCali:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by MaliCali:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by hofer36:
should niners have taken dez bryant rather davis or iupati?
Dez Bryant looks phenomenal. He's a spectacular athlete and an electric player. It's too early to grade him out as he is young. But I feel many teams will kick themselves for not picking him. And BTW he's much better than Crabtree who is a slow possession WR who will NEVER compare to Dez Bryant.
Dez Bryant has Jason Witten, Roy Williams, and Miles Austin drawing attention away from him.
Crabtree does his work against opposing team's number one corner Bryant's doing his thing against nickel corners.
Crabtree DOES NOT have the speed or explosiveness of Dez Bryant. First of all you would NEVER put Crabtree back to return kicks because he's not explosive enough. And if you did he would never bring it back to the house like Bryant. Dez Bryant is the superior athlete all the way around. Bigger, faster, stronger, more exlosive, more instinctive, more energy and less DIVA.
Frankly I don't care if Crabtree isn't a punt returner. How many elite receivers do you see returning punts? Jackson, Welker, Harvin and that's it.
As a receiver wake me up when the guy does something other than taking a screen pass to the end zone. That's alot easier to do when teams actually respect your surroundings. See Welker and Moss.
Less Diva, LOL. You clearly don't pay attention to the guy. He's no different than Crabtree in that department.
Bryant has more speed and explosiveness for sure. Not that there isn't a place for a Crabtree type of player. But Crabs will always be a slower possession type WR lacking explosion and speed.
I don't see how you figure Bryant is stronger than Crab's, I'm not even sure you watched either of these guys in college if you feel you can just say that...
Bryant = Run away from you with speed
Crab's = Breaks of tackles and runs while you are on the ground
also instincts? out of your mind...if Crab's had the speed of Dez Bryant he would be doing to the NFL what he did to college teams..
I'll take Crab's route running, strength and HANDS over Dez any day...and he's only going to get better.
But he doesn't have the speed of Dez Bryant you see...
Who cares?
in the last 13 years there have been 3 receivers who have come out possessing just about all of the measurable's you could ask for..
..Randy Moss
..Larry Fitzgerald
..Calvin Johnson
Fitzgerald is not that fast. Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson possess every measurable you could dream of.
timed speed perhaps..
but please show me a clip of Fitz ever being caught from behind...niner fans should know a thing or two about game speed...
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