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Best pick/worst pick?

Favorite Pick: Lupati

Least Favorite: Byham, only because I didn't think we needed another TE.

[ Edited by adrenaline on Apr 27, 2010 at 17:17:21 ]
Reading up about Dixon, people expected him to go in the round 2 or 3, and compared him to Shonn Greene, who we would've drafted last year had the Jets not traded up to take him a few spots ahead of us in the 3rd. Only Dixon has more versatility because he is a very good receiver and blocker.

This dude has really good athleticism for such a big guy, had the 3rd best broad jump among RBs but was criticized because he's not fast. Well, he ran a 4.61 at his pro day, faster than Frank Gore did before he was drafted..
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Originally posted by ninertico:
Originally posted by TX9R:
Originally posted by krizay:
best pick(s): round one

worst pick(s) round two throught 7


kind of like par for the course for us though

Agree completely. Other than the TE, I don't see any of these guys contributing long term

Really? Are you two serious? None of these players between rounds 2-7 won't be contributing long-term?



Yea, Mays will be out of a job in two years.
Yea, Bowman will be cut because he's a third rounder ILB who played OLB therefore what business do we have takin' him
Yea, Dixon obviously won't fit in since we already have Coffee
Yea, Williams sucks since he's a sixth. Nevermind Morgan's example.
Yea, Bylam as a only a blocking TE, really? What a waste!
Yea, and the dude in the seventh...uh wait, IT'S A SEVENTH ROUND PICK!

You guys are entitled to your opinions, but what short-sightedness. I can see all except maybe the seventh rounder making it on our squad.

Mays will be our future SS whether you like it or not.
Bowman will succeed Spikes and become the sleeper pick of the draft.
Dixon will compete and beat out Coffee eventually as the #2 back.
Williams will compete and may beat out Hill for Slot and back up ST. At min, he replaces Zeigler.
Bylam is a sixth and will be used just for blocking purposes and ST.
So what about the seventh pick.

This is a very good draft especially for depth and finding immediate starters.

Wow, rounds 2-7, really?

I revert back to Vernon Davis as a clear cut example of how a player can succeed under this team's umbrella lead by Iron Mike!

Mays, Bowman, and Dixon will fall in line.


Did you just compare our clas to a top6 pick, a TE no less, who was billed to be an unequivicol talent for his position to a bunch of 3rd tier talents? Mays would have been great....10 years ago. The league has changed, gus have to be able to cover....he can't. Bowman? Really? How many years do we waste a mid-early round pick on a back up ted LB (McKillop?) when that's the least important position on the field and there were FAR better talents at that slot.
How many WRs do we really need in a smash mouth offense where our 3rd WR gets maybe 30 balls all year?
We could have had : Awaksa, Sapp, Hardy, and on to fill actual needs.
Had you ever heard of any of these guys, honestly, before we drafted them?
Another heavy RB. Really? We need a speed guy, nat a 235 guy, great now we have 3 guys who aren't home run hitters.
Go ahead and drink the kool aid, but this draft from need and talent and value perspectve sux balls.
Originally posted by TX9R:
Originally posted by ninertico:
Originally posted by TX9R:
Originally posted by krizay:
best pick(s): round one

worst pick(s) round two throught 7


kind of like par for the course for us though

Agree completely. Other than the TE, I don't see any of these guys contributing long term

Really? Are you two serious? None of these players between rounds 2-7 won't be contributing long-term?



Yea, Mays will be out of a job in two years.
Yea, Bowman will be cut because he's a third rounder ILB who played OLB therefore what business do we have takin' him
Yea, Dixon obviously won't fit in since we already have Coffee
Yea, Williams sucks since he's a sixth. Nevermind Morgan's example.
Yea, Bylam as a only a blocking TE, really? What a waste!
Yea, and the dude in the seventh...uh wait, IT'S A SEVENTH ROUND PICK!

You guys are entitled to your opinions, but what short-sightedness. I can see all except maybe the seventh rounder making it on our squad.

Mays will be our future SS whether you like it or not.
Bowman will succeed Spikes and become the sleeper pick of the draft.
Dixon will compete and beat out Coffee eventually as the #2 back.
Williams will compete and may beat out Hill for Slot and back up ST. At min, he replaces Zeigler.
Bylam is a sixth and will be used just for blocking purposes and ST.
So what about the seventh pick.

This is a very good draft especially for depth and finding immediate starters.

Wow, rounds 2-7, really?

I revert back to Vernon Davis as a clear cut example of how a player can succeed under this team's umbrella lead by Iron Mike!

Mays, Bowman, and Dixon will fall in line.


Did you just compare our clas to a top6 pick, a TE no less, who was billed to be an unequivicol talent for his position to a bunch of 3rd tier talents? Mays would have been great....10 years ago. The league has changed, gus have to be able to cover....he can't. Bowman? Really? How many years do we waste a mid-early round pick on a back up ted LB (McKillop?) when that's the least important position on the field and there were FAR better talents at that slot.
How many WRs do we really need in a smash mouth offense where our 3rd WR gets maybe 30 balls all year?
We could have had : Awaksa, Sapp, Hardy, and on to fill actual needs.
Had you ever heard of any of these guys, honestly, before we drafted them?
Another heavy RB. Really? We need a speed guy, nat a 235 guy, great now we have 3 guys who aren't home run hitters.
Go ahead and drink the kool aid, but this draft from need and talent and value perspectve sux balls.

You are entitled to your opinion. That's cool. I understand your points and heavily disagree with them.

The proof will be in the pudding and we won't know until the season. Until then, there is a reason why they chose the players they did. In addition, I disagree that there were FAR better talents than Bowman. They fit the mold, Mays, Bowman, Dixon, and Byham. We got better in depth with players in the sixth who can all contribute in some way to the team for great value.

WTH is wrong with that?

If Kool-Aid is drinking down heavy amounts of successful four and ones, getting talented "football" players for incredible value who "fit" our systems and overall improve the depth of the team, then TX, I will be the first in line.

Best Pick Iupati
Worst: The TE
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by Niners99:

how is a 4th round ILB drafted to replace Spikes in a year or so the worst pick? id say it was that 6th round TE. what do we need a 3rd day TE for...
lets see, which of the following needs is a stronger one: a fast CB or a ilb???

obviously they have more faith in Tarell Brown than you do. if they think were in decent shape with Spencer and Brown at CB for the next couple years, and we needed to replace Lewis at SS more, they made that call.

i think on defense its harder to judge what we think we need, and what we really need. Sing knows alot more about that than anyone else. anytime we pick a LB from now on, its fairly safe to assume Sing ok'd it.

Agreed
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SIAP - Cowboys board leaked. Reveals who were their favorite picks. Who knows when the picture was taken but it is really fun to look through:

Link here

From a 49ers perspective, it's interesting that they have Davis as a round 3 value. Rumors were that Dallas was one of a couple teams the 49ers were worried about moving ahead of them.

On the other hand, Bowman is rated by them as a 1st round prospect and Iupati is number 10 on their board. Mays shows up 8th in the 2nd round value set.

Their own 2nd round pick Lee (2-55) is 14th on their 1st round list. Bryant must be 11 or 12 obstructed by Jerry Jone's arm.

( Just signed up. Otherwise, might have created a new topic of this )
I was surprised that they didn't address the corner position earlier. That's the one part of the draft and one of our biggest needs that wasn't addressed until the 7th round. But I think that Adams might stick with the team.

I'm intrigued by Mays. The guy is a freakish athlete that if he puts it all together can be a serious weapon for Manusky to use. He can't be worse in coverage than Michael Lewis and the guy can bring it. I think he has a chance to boom or bust big time. I have to admit though I didn't watch any usc football, so I'm only looking at You tube.

The Bowman choice threw me off because he's not very big, but the guy looks like Willis. When he hits a guy.....he is going down and stays down. He seems like a real player and potential starter.


Anthony Davis and Iupati are good picks but they were taken in the first round. I think they were no brainers. Singletary and Baalke knew who they wanted. Both of these guys can turn out to be something special.

I think their best pick might have been Anthony Dixon. We get him in the 6th round. This pick was a true BPA. I still think we can use a quicker speedy back (maybe Leroy Vann can work his way in.....if he even makes the team.)

Kyle Williams has nice speed and seems to always get open.

I thought they might have also gone for a corner in the sixth, but Bynam surprised me too. I hope he makes the team, but he has the nasty attitude the Sing wants.

I thought it was solid draft.....I can't wait for Football season!
Best pick: Anthony Dixon: Based on draft slot and expected contribution.

Worst pick: Taylor Mays: I hope not, but he's a risky pick and I certainly have my doubts.
Originally posted by strickac:
Best pick: Anthony Dixon: Based on draft slot and expected contribution.

Worst pick: Taylor Mays: I hope not, but he's a risky pick and I certainly have my doubts.

He's not risky at #49 in the 2nd round. He's worth that value.
byhams the worst
Best pick: RB Dixon (good value in the 6th and fills a need too)
Worst pick: none....although giving up the 4th round pick to move up 2 spots to grab Davis was an error in my humble opinion. Still can't complain too much though, if the Niners really thought he was "their guy" at RT this year.

Solid draft overall and the reason I say that is this....

The Niners essentially got better at OT, OG, C (because by drafting the two guys they did, both Wragge and Baas play more center and Wallace doesn't make the team), RB, WR (both Ginn and K Williams are nice speedy, quick guys to help stretch the field), TE (looks they got a good blocking backup with Byham), KR (Ginn and Williams), LB (Bowman has enough strength, athleticism, and versatility to play both inside and outside), S (at the least, Mays provides the team with solid depth behind M Lewis), and perhaps CB (although I like the FA addition of Stoudamire better than the drafted Adams). You could also make the argument that they even improved at QB by adding J Brown (practice squad most likely).

One could criticize them for not upgrading the NT, DE, and especially the CB spots more (and who knows, they may add someone in training camp) but upgrading virtually every offensive position and a couple on defense seems like a pretty good offseason to me. I'm cool with what they've done.
Originally posted by BuZzB28:
Best Pick : Taylor Mays

Worst Pick : Navorro Bowman

Why is Navorro Bowman the worst pick?
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It's really hard to say best/worst when they haven't seen the field. If you base it on potential and scheme, then I'd say the following:

Best: Mike Iupati
Why? Because he fits with the mauling, run-heavy scheme we are trying to establish, and pushing Baas on the bench enhances our depth at LG, RG, and C. You could argue Anthony Davis, but I think Snyder is going to prove he can play RT or he's going to get cut.

Worst: Taylor Mays
Why? Because he hasn't proved that he can defend the pass - only proving he can make the ESPN highlight hits to force drop passes. Maybe he can work on his mechanics and ball hawking potential, but when you potentially have two safeties that may struggle in pass protection with weaknesses in the corner position and pass rushing positions, you haven't addressed the actual need. This seems like a McCloughan pick - combine and physical guy with some potential, but lack of consistency.
Best: Dixon, as I think he was a steal in the 6th. Don't know if he was the best player we drafted, but has the best value compared to our other picks, IMO.

Worst: Bowman - I don't dislike this pick, I'm just not sold he was the BPA at #3.

Also, I like the Davis pick but, IMO, don't think it was necessary to trade the 4th rounder. But at least Sing/Baalke got their guy, and I hope Davis goes Aunt Jemima on everyone.
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