Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Seriously, what's with all the damn 'Joe Haden at #13' love throughout every mock draft on the web lately? I've seen endless tape on this guy (bowls/highlights/regular games) and I find his draft stock to be very misleading (within terms of delusional college-super-stardom over the realistic payoff in the NFL).
1. Haden was working with THE BEST D-LINE IN THE NATION (at Florida), so Joe barely had to worry about relying upon 'raw' instinctual coverage situations, and looked REALLY good because he had guys like Ahmad Black and Major Wright behind him, allowing Haden to harp upon (spread-out) positional advantages.
2. Guys built like Haden can only (really) find NFL success within stoic Tampa-2 based defenses (which we're not), where Joe would rarely play man coverage (based on how undersized Joe is realistically going to be compared to #1 WRs in the NFL).
Yes, Joe has NFL-ready potential (and playing in the SEC helps a lot), but no speed or fluidity (and I'm not even counting the misleading 40-time bs, this dude just has a low-motor). -Now I'm not bringing hate on this guy, but I'm just saying he isn't worth more than a mid-20 pick, taking him at the #13 spot sounds a little 'over the top'.
What do you mean by over rated? Any CB that falls to 13 means that he is not expected (unanimously, maybe the jets expected Revis to be be a shutdown) to be a shutdown corner like Sanders, Bailey, Woodson who were all drafted near the top 5 but should be a solid starter for years like Cromatie, Jammer, D Robinson, C Mcallister, M Trufant and so on. I think Haden at worst will have be a solid starter and better than what we have now and at best be maybe become a top corner. Either way He would be worth the 13th pick. However, if both him and Thomas and one of the top 4 tackles are availible at 13 and the Seahawks already took a OT then I would rather them draft Thomas at 13 and the 4th OT at 17 because the OT will be there at 17 unless someone trades up because Tenn and NYG will not draft an OT. If thomas is gone though I have no problem with Haden at 13.