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Todd McShay

I know people seem to hate McShay here, even though they don't even know the guy, but all media guys are just there to be conversation starters and I think he does a good job at that.

That being said, I was listening to McShay and Kiper on ESPN radio this morning as they did a mock draft together; they alternated turns choosing guys. McShay had both of the Niner's picks and had them taking Anthony Davis at 13 and Earl Thomas at 17. Those sound like solid picks to me, if the Niners are unable to trade back.
Originally posted by MaliCali:
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by MaliCali:
McShay is the Jamie Dukes of ESPN...who also thinks the Browns take Dez Bryant, lol wtf?

I don't think that deserves a WTF. Bryant is a top 10 talent and the Browns have ZERO weapons.

massaqoi and robiske last year...they have talented young receivers, they dont have a quarterback.

taking bryant, with so many other needs that will definitely be available at 7 would definitely be a wtf.

Robiske had 106 yards

Massaquoi was alright but they still could use someone like Dez Bryant. It's not as crazy a thought as you were making it out to be
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by MaliCali:
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by MaliCali:
McShay is the Jamie Dukes of ESPN...who also thinks the Browns take Dez Bryant, lol wtf?

I don't think that deserves a WTF. Bryant is a top 10 talent and the Browns have ZERO weapons.

massaqoi and robiske last year...they have talented young receivers, they dont have a quarterback.

taking bryant, with so many other needs that will definitely be available at 7 would definitely be a wtf.

Robiske had 106 yards

Massaquoi was alright but they still could use someone like Dez Bryant. It's not as crazy a thought as you were making it out to be

robiske will be good...he was a rookie buried on the depth chart for most of the season..its not crazy because they dont need help at receiver, its crazy because they need a lot MORE help at so many other positions..and there will be plenty of quality recievers when they pick in th 2nd...though i still doubt they adress WR with either of these picks..
[ Edited by MaliCali on Apr 17, 2010 at 1:20 PM ]
I'm not nearly as high on Kindle as McShay is...he's good, no doubt, but I think there are better options at OLB. Graham and Sapp come to mind. Due to the fairly high bust rate for pass rushers, I'd be surprised if Baalke/Singletary took one in the 1st rd. I think CB is much more likely...Haden or Wilson. However, I'd still love to see them go full-bore OL...and get Davis and either Iupati or Pouncey. Whatever offensive progress that comes will be mostly predicated on an improved OL. Two of those studs would go a long way toward achieving that.
Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Todd McShay is a f*g

This
If we take a pasrusher I want Brandon Graham.
Originally posted by tohara3:
If we take a pasrusher I want Brandon Graham.

Absolutely, for what it's worth I do like Kindle but Graham has got to be the best prospect in the draft and would be an immediate impact player for us.
Originally posted by MaliCali:
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by MaliCali:
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by MaliCali:
McShay is the Jamie Dukes of ESPN...who also thinks the Browns take Dez Bryant, lol wtf?

I don't think that deserves a WTF. Bryant is a top 10 talent and the Browns have ZERO weapons.

massaqoi and robiske last year...they have talented young receivers, they dont have a quarterback.

taking bryant, with so many other needs that will definitely be available at 7 would definitely be a wtf.

Robiske had 106 yards

Massaquoi was alright but they still could use someone like Dez Bryant. It's not as crazy a thought as you were making it out to be

robiske will be good...he was a rookie buried on the depth chart for most of the season..its not crazy because they dont need help at receiver, its crazy because they need a lot MORE help at so many other positions..and there will be plenty of quality recievers when they pick in th 2nd...though i still doubt they adress WR with either of these picks..

They need help everywhere, if they feel Bryant is the best player available they will take him. If you want Dez Bryant you don't not take him cause some rookie on your team had 106 yards and Massaquoi had 630 yards. Come on dude.
everybody has us taking a OT which we better at either 13 or 17 and I think we all agree that will probably happen.


almost everyone has us taking either Haden or Thomas with our other pick but something tells me we may go passrusher here whether it's Graham/Kindle/Morgan who knows.
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by MaliCali:
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by MaliCali:
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by MaliCali:
McShay is the Jamie Dukes of ESPN...who also thinks the Browns take Dez Bryant, lol wtf?

I don't think that deserves a WTF. Bryant is a top 10 talent and the Browns have ZERO weapons.

massaqoi and robiske last year...they have talented young receivers, they dont have a quarterback.

taking bryant, with so many other needs that will definitely be available at 7 would definitely be a wtf.

Robiske had 106 yards

Massaquoi was alright but they still could use someone like Dez Bryant. It's not as crazy a thought as you were making it out to be

robiske will be good...he was a rookie buried on the depth chart for most of the season..its not crazy because they dont need help at receiver, its crazy because they need a lot MORE help at so many other positions..and there will be plenty of quality recievers when they pick in th 2nd...though i still doubt they adress WR with either of these picks..

They need help everywhere, if they feel Bryant is the best player available they will take him. If you want Dez Bryant you don't not take him cause some rookie on your team had 106 yards and Massaquoi had 630 yards. Come on dude.

Except the browns do not want Dez Bryant. stop. you sound silly.
Originally posted by jreff22:
TX9R would be the best to answer that.

For general info:
Read & React: A chase-down player who attacks and plays very well when free to roam. Excellent closing speed to the ball and strong reaction once a ballcarrier makes his move. Relies on his athleticism too much and his instincts are questionable. Will overrun plays and can be fooled by misdirection. Could improve his awareness by keeping eyes in the backfield when rushing the passer.

Run defense: Has the length and change-of-direction agility to hold the corner. Closes down the line well, and has improved his willingness to chase downfield. Must improve his ability to disengage from blocks of NFL-caliber tackles, or even tight ends, on the edge. Strong enough to hold his ground on run plays and stand up in the trash when fresh, but his lack of bulk causes him to tire quickly when playing every down. Will run around blocks at times. Athletic enough to avoid cuts but doesn't always use his hands well.

Pass defense: His speed and length stops receivers and backs in their tracks on screen passes to at least force them inside. Quick enough to stay with tight ends in the flat or down the seam. A step late catching bootlegs run toward him, and not quite smooth or agile enough to make up ground. Brings down receivers quickly when dropping into zone from linebacker spot. Needs work on route recognition. Knocks down passes on the line and in coverage using his long arms, but does not have great hands for the interception.

Tackling: Has very good closing speed. Difficult to avoid in space as he can break down and quickly change direction. Has the length to wrap up ballcarriers in the open field or shut down the edge after getting off outside blocks. Strong enough to arm-tackle backs and receivers. Proved more than capable on special teams early in his career because of his size and speed.

Pass Rush/Blitz: Owns prototypical height, length and speed for an elite pass rusher. Quick off the snap whether lined up with his hand down or standing up. Explodes into quarterback. Can turn the corner and square to the quarterback quickly. Flashes a bull rush against tackles, but does not get off straight-on blocks to get secondary pressure. Stops his rush effort after initial contact. Gets picked up by running backs too easily, tries to dance around them instead of attacking.

Intangibles: Nagging injuries, off-field issues and inconsistency are red flags to scouts. A quiet leader in the locker room who doesn't act out when things are down or let negative press get to him.

Kindle started 25-of-46 games at Texas, including 11 at strong-side linebacker and fifteen at defensive end … His official NCAA statistics read, 151 tackles (106 solos), 16.5 sacks for minus-120 yards, 33.5 stops for losses of 166 yards and 18 quarterback pressures … Caused three fumbles and recovered three others … Also deflected five passes and blocked a kick … Added 14 tackles (nine solo) for the special team coverage unit.


That's three strikes if you ask me. With all three issues how do you pin this guy in the first round period??
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Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by MaliCali:
McShay is the Jamie Dukes of ESPN...who also thinks the Browns take Dez Bryant, lol wtf?

I don't think that deserves a WTF. Bryant is a top 10 talent and the Browns have ZERO weapons.

I agree. I actually think the Browns could use a couple of receivers from this draft, and they should. They could actually go Bryant with the 1st pick and McCoy with the 2nd. That's how I would draft if I were Cleveland or Holmgren.