Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Don't like the idea of going safety, safety in Thomas and Jones. Yeah that plan is to convert Thomas to corner but I'm just not high on that idea.
In the NFL these days, it's all about being able to make plays in the secondary...this guy has that ability. Will it take him a year or two to put it all together as a CB, very likely...but that probably goes for any "pure" CB we would draft who would also sit behind Clements and Spencer. The more research you do on Thomas, the more you see what a talent he is, and adding him to your secondary in ANY capacity is simply a smart move.
The problem I have is I don't want him pegged at corner. I'm fine with drafting him and using him in a role similiar to Meriweather but if he's best suited to be a safety then that's where he should go. We lose some of that luxury with the Jones pick.
Personally I would only take one of those two guys.
You plug in Iupati or Ducasse at guard instead and the line is set for years to come.
Yea that's the only thing I don't understand about this mock. Two of your 1st 3 picks will just be sitting and learning. That's not a recipe for success theses days in the NFL. If your secondary is suspect why are you drafting guys who can't come in and play right now. Last time i checked coaches don't have enough job security to wait 2/3 seasons for guys to develop and make an impact. The good teams identify guys who can come in and contribute right away. Then what if Thomas has to move back to safety and you have him and Jones along with Goldson. One of those draft picks becomes a complete waste. I like Thomas and Jones I just don't get drafting them both. I'd take an OG like Jon Jerry over Jones in the 2nd and this would be perfect.
Sidenote I really think Casserly and Kiper talk to each other a lot b/c they say almost the something about the same players specifically Bulaga. Kiper was saying the something on a podcast bout 3 weeks ago that many teams view him as strictly and RT and he lacks athleticism.
I disagree on a few counts here.
1.) I see 2 out of the 3 top picks being able to contribute heavily right away. Obviously Bulaga, but also Thomas. Now, it's a matter of being realistic. No CB that we draft is going to start over Nate and Spencer and I'm sure you realize this. However, Thomas has the kind of cover/playmaking skills that allow him to immediately contribute as a nickel CB, and given how often teams play nickel, he'll be on the field a lot. We have to remember, just because a guy isn't starting doesn't mean he's not contributing heavily. Now, after a year of playing heavy nickel and maybe even picking up a few starts here and there, Thomas could be ready to take over for Nate in 2011 (as his contract just gets more bloated and his production seems to wane). Should we just grab a pure CB like Kyle Wilson? Sure, I wouldn't have a problem with that...I just prefer Thomas' overall skills and versatility over Wilson's, so it's more a matter of preference for me.
2.) I believe the best teams identify guys who can develop into star players over time. We fans want instant satisfaction, so we want our teams to draft guys that can fill areas of need and get on the field right away. That doesn't always translate into long-term success, though. A guy like Reshad Jones is an ideal combo safety in that he's big enough to be a force against the run, and athletic enough to make plays in pass coverage....however, he's very raw and needs seasoning. You might want to pass on a guy like that for instant impact in 2010 (and I'm not saying you're wrong either), but a smart team will see a guy like Jones and work with him to develop his skills and hopefully turn him into a pro-bowl safety in the years to come.
3.) I always take what Kiper says with a grain of salt. If I remember correctly, he said neither David Carr or Joey Harrington would be a bust.
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on Apr 15, 2010 at 10:59 AM ]