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Apr 14, 2010 at 5:49 PM
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Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
^^ The way I see it, if you can get 2-3 "REALLY good" players and 1-2 "role" players out of each draft, you are WAY ahead of the game. I personally see Bulaga, Thomas and Jones as high-end talents and at least 2 of those guys should be top-notch.

I can see Butler, Vann and Troup turning into nice role players and decent contributors down the road, so I'd personally be happy with that.

You think it would be wise to move Earl Thomas to CB? Even though it's not a huge move from FS i still dont like the idea of moving 1st round picks to other positions
Apr 14, 2010 at 5:50 PM
Good work Ghost. I like the Bulaga, Troup, Vann and a second return specialist choices. Also, Thomas as a CB is a good thought.

Given how the offense was so far behind the defense last year, I'd prefer two of the first three picks were offensive players. Perhaps McCluster in the second round. I also don't see such a high need for a strong safety. The late OG is questionable. We have enough backups at OL. Perhaps a TE.
[ Edited by Paul_Hofer on Apr 14, 2010 at 6:00 PM ]
Apr 14, 2010 at 5:51 PM
Don't like the idea of going safety, safety in Thomas and Jones. Yeah that plan is to convert Thomas to corner but I'm just not high on that idea.
Apr 14, 2010 at 5:58 PM
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
^^ The way I see it, if you can get 2-3 "REALLY good" players and 1-2 "role" players out of each draft, you are WAY ahead of the game. I personally see Bulaga, Thomas and Jones as high-end talents and at least 2 of those guys should be top-notch.

I can see Butler, Vann and Troup turning into nice role players and decent contributors down the road, so I'd personally be happy with that.

You think it would be wise to move Earl Thomas to CB? Even though it's not a huge move from FS i still dont like the idea of moving 1st round picks to other positions

If we had to have Thomas start immediately at CB, I'd be worried to the point where i wouldn't draft him. Given that he can sit behind Nate and Spencer his first year while playing the slot, I really don't see an issue with it. We really need talent/speed/instincts/playmaking ability in our secondary, and this guy has all of the above. I'll take my chances with guys like that any day of the week.
Apr 14, 2010 at 6:03 PM
This is a well thought out mock draft. The first 12 picks are all reasonable, and I would be happy with Bulaga at 13 and Thomas at 17. Vann is a neat solution to the Spiller problem, not nearly as good, but a speedster in the later rounds might be enough to solve the KR/PR problem, plus adding a speedy WR. Would that it happens this way!
Apr 14, 2010 at 6:08 PM
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Don't like the idea of going safety, safety in Thomas and Jones. Yeah that plan is to convert Thomas to corner but I'm just not high on that idea.

In the NFL these days, it's all about being able to make plays in the secondary...this guy has that ability. Will it take him a year or two to put it all together as a CB, very likely...but that probably goes for any "pure" CB we would draft who would also sit behind Clements and Spencer. The more research you do on Thomas, the more you see what a talent he is, and adding him to your secondary in ANY capacity is simply a smart move.
Apr 14, 2010 at 6:16 PM
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Good work Ghost. I like the Bulaga, Troup, Vann and a second return specialist choices. Also, Thomas as a CB is a good thought.

Given how the offense was so far behind the defense last year, I'd prefer two of the first three picks were offensive players. Perhaps McCluster in the second round. I also don't see such a high need for a strong safety. The late OG is questionable. We have enough backups at OL. Perhaps a TE.

I actually had McCluster as my 2nd rounder before I switched to Jones...I'd be ok with that, but I really don't like our current SS situation and think Jones could eventually be a real impact player.
Apr 14, 2010 at 6:19 PM
This is pretty good, Ghost.

Only thing I have to say is Troup should go by the 3rd round. I can't see him lasting to our pick in the 4th, even if he makes it to the 4th round itself. He's built like Iupati, exceptionally strong, yet mobile. He's worked out for a multitude of very interested teams already. He's a very good NT prospect -- well-suited for the role of gap control.

If he somehow made it to us, I'd be quite ecstatic to land Troup.
Apr 14, 2010 at 6:24 PM
Not feeling two defensive picks out of our top 3 let alone two picks in the secondary.

Chris Scott ftw though.
Apr 14, 2010 at 6:49 PM
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Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
^^ The way I see it, if you can get 2-3 "REALLY good" players and 1-2 "role" players out of each draft, you are WAY ahead of the game. I personally see Bulaga, Thomas and Jones as high-end talents and at least 2 of those guys should be top-notch.

I can see Butler, Vann and Troup turning into nice role players and decent contributors down the road, so I'd personally be happy with that.

You think it would be wise to move Earl Thomas to CB? Even though it's not a huge move from FS i still dont like the idea of moving 1st round picks to other positions

If we had to have Thomas start immediately at CB, I'd be worried to the point where i wouldn't draft him. Given that he can sit behind Nate and Spencer his first year while playing the slot, I really don't see an issue with it. We really need talent/speed/instincts/playmaking ability in our secondary, and this guy has all of the above. I'll take my chances with guys like that any day of the week.

You must not like the shape of our secondary, I don't think it needs this kind of reinforcement especially with other needs. However, if these guys are the best available then i can buy it

Apr 14, 2010 at 7:06 PM
Very good mock.. I would be delighted if it came down like this.
Apr 14, 2010 at 7:40 PM
Apr 14, 2010 at 7:48 PM
I would be absolutely extatic if Bulaga fell to 13....

I would totally sign off of this draft

Nice job GOFD!
Apr 14, 2010 at 8:20 PM
Originally posted by teeohh:
My next question is where have you heard about Bulaga falling. And I ask because the only scout guy I follow is Daniel Jeremiah and whatever else people post on here. So I'm just curious because I'd like other good sources to read from.
Apr 14, 2010 at 8:45 PM
Originally posted by teeohh:
Originally posted by teeohh:
My next question is where have you heard about Bulaga falling. And I ask because the only scout guy I follow is Daniel Jeremiah and whatever else people post on here. So I'm just curious because I'd like other good sources to read from.

Here's three links to check out...take it for what it's worth.


Former Iowa lineman Bryan Bulaga has been told by NFL scouts that his arms are too short. "I've never really had a problem with my short arms, I guess," he said.

I've spoken to several scouts and frotn office executives throughout the league who adamantly proclaimed that Bulaga, due to his short arms (32.5") and only marginal upside "did not deserve to be in the conversation" as the top OT. One source noted that there were zero offensive line coaches present at Iowa's Pro Day, whereas there were "several" at Oklahoma State and Oklahoma's.

Casserly goes on to say that the "consensus" from folks he's talked to indicate Bulaga is more of a right tackle than a left tackle and, as Casserly points out, taking a right tackle in the top ten generally doesn't happen.
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