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The 49ers should not consider trading up

I just finished an article suggesting the 49ers MUST consider trading up for a OT. The 49ers are more than one player from being a finished product, as a matter of fact the 49ers are not even 2 or 3 players away from being where they need to be. The 49ers will need all of their current draft picks in the first 4 rounds to fill holes & add depth. 2010 appears to be the strongest/deepest draft class in quite somtime, if anything the 49ers should consider trading back to acquire more picks. These are the areas that need to be addressed in no particular order:

OT
OG
Safety
CB
Return specialist
OLB

As things stand right now the 49ers have 5 picks in the first 4 rounds, if they stay put they can get quality help in up to 5 out of 6 positions. Each pick the 49ers trade limits their ability to address all areas of concern. Trading up would be a terrible idea for a team that needs to finally put the finishing touches on their rebuilding.

[ Edited by GMniner805 on Apr 6, 2010 at 10:32:54 ]
I agree, there's no need in trading up to get an OT when we can easily sign Gaither and hopefully give up a 2nd rd pick. Sign him to a contract extension that he deserves more than any rookie OT in this draft
it depends if okung is at 5
or berry or bulaga are at around 7 to 8 i wouldnt mind trading up as long as we dont use both of our 1st rounders
Don't think we need to trade up either. We trade up if we need a LT and there's a LT that's heads and shoulders the best Olineman in the draft. That's not the situation.
I just don't see trading up as a good thing here.

There are really only 2 players worth trading up for Suh and Okung.

Now Suh is a stud and IMO a sure thing at his position. However it would cost both of our first rounders to trade up to get him + the huge salary he will command as an obvious top 2 pick.

Okung will likely demand a substantial amount to move up for as well and while he's the best LT in this draft he's not on the level of say a Joe Thomas or the other big time OTs. He'll be good but not good enough to trade both first rounders for.

The other guys - Berry, Williams, Bulaga all excellent players and I'd be very happy if any one of them landed to us. However Berry I downgrade due to his position and the fact that Earl Thomas is pretty good in his own right and Thomas may be available at 13 where we don't need to give anything up.

Williams and Bulaga would likeley play RT for us. As much as we need either of those guys trading up for one is too much.

I think our best bet is to stay put and take whomever falls or trade down and pick up some more players - or ammo to trade back into the first/2nd rounds. That way you get more players but of higher quality.

I'd rather trade down(and then up) and walk away with Mike Iupati, Kyle Wilson and Jerry Hughes instead of trading up and getting Okung.
"Even with the draft less than three weeks away there is still film work to be done, and as we take another look at the top offensive tackles on the board things are getting tight at the top.

Oklahoma State's Russell Okung has held down the No. 1 spot for some time now but after watching more tape we don't see much difference between Okung and Oklahoma's Trent Williams.--NFL DraftBlog at ESPN

This is why we shouldn't trade up as there is not much difference within the top four tackles. The bottom line is that KC, Oakland and Buffalo must choose someone other than these two Williams and Davis. I hope Oakland takes Campbell, but they just may take A. Davis as the last OT in the four.

We should keep the picks! A Spiller/Thomas or Spiller/Graham combo would be much greater than just one A. Davis or even a T. Williams, IMO.

Out of the four, I believe A. Davis will be the one to drop to us. Let's hope.

[ Edited by ninertico on Apr 6, 2010 at 11:18:59 ]
Originally posted by ninertico:
"Even with the draft less than three weeks away there is still film work to be done, and as we take another look at the top offensive tackles on the board things are getting tight at the top.

Oklahoma State's Russell Okung has held down the No. 1 spot for some time now but after watching more tape we don't see much difference between Okung and Oklahoma's Trent Williams.--NFL DraftBlog at ESPN

This is why we shouldn't trade up as there is not much difference within the top four tackles. The bottom line is that KC, Oakland and Buffalo must choose someone other than these two Williams and Davis. I hope Oakland takes Campbell, but they just may take A. Davis as the last OT in the four.

We should keep the picks! A Spiller/Thomas or Spiller/Graham combo would be much greater than just one A. Davis or even a T. Williams, IMO.

Out of the four, I believe A. Davis will be the one to drop to us. Let's hope.


there is a lot of difference between okung and williams look at the game tape
It is INSANE to say trade up. The niners need a RIGHT Tackle, not a left tackle. How dumb is Matt Macciocco??? Perhaps he should read Bill Walshs book, the winning edge.

Lets look at last years draft for OT's in round 1.

Smith, Jason OT 6'5" 309 Baylor
Pick Analysis: null


6 (6) Bengals Smith, Andre OT 6'4" 332 Alabama
Pick Analysis: null
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8 (8) Jaguars Monroe, Eugene OT 6'5" 309 Virginia
Pick Analysis: null



23 (23) Ravens (From Patriots) Oher, Michael

Now applying the same logic, the niners should have traded up to grab a top 3 tackle last year? All of the top 3 Tackles did not perform that well. As a matter of fact, Ebon Britton, Phil Loadhold, Beatty, and sebastian Volmer, all second round picks, outperformed the top 3 OT's taken.

Draft BPA with 13 and 17, if it is a OT great, if not, trade the second and third to move up to grab your RIGHT Tackle, either Charles Brown, Velhdeer, or ?
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The team does not need two 1st round LT's. We've already invested a high pick and a lot of money in Staley. Tying up another high pick and big contract in another Tackle puts too many resources into one position. What we need is a solid RT, and those types of players are usually found in the late 1st or early 2nd round (and sometimes much later). I would rather trade down out of 17 and get an extra pick in the 2nd round. This is a deep draft and four picks in the first two rounds could land you four eventual starters. With a late 1st or early 2nd round pick, we could get a guy like Brown, Saffold, or Ducasse who would be good enough to start on the right side for years to come.
We'd have to give up a lot. I hope we stay put. If we have to I'd get Iupati. The guy can be groomed to be a RT, which is less work and easier to learn then LT. We be getting a monster, which is wats lacking on the line.
Originally posted by GMniner805:
I just finished an article suggesting the 49ers MUST consider trading up for a OT. The 49ers are more than one player from being a finished product, as a matter of fact the 49ers are not even 2 or 3 players away from being where they need to be. The 49ers will need all of their current draft picks in the first 4 rounds to fill holes & add depth. 2010 appears to be the strongest/deepest draft class in quite somtime, if anything the 49ers should consider trading back to acquire more picks. These are the areas that need to be addressed in no particular order:

OT
OG
Safety
CB
Return specialist
OLB

As things stand right now the 49ers have 5 picks in the first 4 rounds, if they stay put they can get quality help in up to 5 out of 6 positions. Each pick the 49ers trade limits their ability to address all areas of concern. Trading up would be a terrible idea for a team that needs to finally put the finishing touches on their rebuilding.

Your argument is that the niners need all the draft picks this year, so why couldn't we simply trade picks from the 2011 draft and trade up if a certain player falls more than expected? Once again, I don't think you can completely rule out any trade scenario until you see what happens in the actual draft - doing so is just gimping yourself in the trade process. If you go into the draft with a mindset of being very inflexible, then you may miss out on great opportunities.
Originally posted by REDx85xGOLD:
I agree, there's no need in trading up to get an OT when we can easily sign Gaither and hopefully give up a 2nd rd pick. Sign him to a contract extension that he deserves more than any rookie OT in this draft

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I don't like the idea of trading up. Davis should fall to us and if he doesn't there's always taking an OT in the 2nd or 3rd. We need all our picks, this is a good draft to have two firsts.
I would rather trade down a few spots to get Saffold, who would be a great pick for future RT. He is already familiar with the ZBS, and he has great size. He and Charles Brown are the 2 guys I would trade down for. If we do this we can get another 2nd or 3rd to use on a defensive lineman
Originally posted by saniner:
I would rather trade down a few spots to get Saffold, who would be a great pick for future RT. He is already familiar with the ZBS, and he has great size. He and Charles Brown are the 2 guys I would trade down for. If we do this we can get another 2nd or 3rd to use on a defensive lineman

agreed but honestly how many teams are willing to trade up like 15-20 spots?

i think it would be safer to trade up with our 2nd