Niners contacted Clausen?

Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Aaron Rodgers, Sanchez, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, all of these guys are already so much better than Alex Smith. Even if Clausen has a CHANCE at being close to them i think he is worth the pick. When the f*ck is the webzone gonna get over the fact that we dont have a Qb, even if we did have a O line. How many times did Aaron Rodgers get sacked last year? He seemed to be doing alright.


The fact that drafting a Qb in the first round is such a stretch to a fanbase whose quarterbacks have been alex smith, trent dilfer, chris weinke, tim rattay, jesse palmer, jt Osullivan, and cody pickett, in the recent past is fkn beyond me.

Alex Smith is second coming of Jesus to some zoners.

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Aaron Rodgers, Sanchez, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, all of these guys are already so much better than Alex Smith. Even if Clausen has a CHANCE at being close to them i think he is worth the pick. When the f*ck is the webzone gonna get over the fact that we dont have a Qb, even if we did have a O line. How many times did Aaron Rodgers get sacked last year? He seemed to be doing alright.


The fact that drafting a Qb in the first round is such a stretch to a fanbase whose quarterbacks have been alex smith, trent dilfer, chris weinke, tim rattay, jesse palmer, jt Osullivan, and cody pickett, in the recent past is fkn beyond me.

Alex Smith is second coming of Jesus to some zoners.

Not only is that true, but their yearning for a tackletackletackletackletackle in this draft is blinding them of the fact that we still won't have a good Qb.

QB>Tackle.

we can still get a tackle with 17, or in the 2, 3 or 4 rounds. I think its funny that people LOL'ed at this thread when really Alex Smith to quarterbacks is probably the same as Adam Snyder to Right Tackles.

who cares. ill throw up if we pick a qb in first, this early again

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Aaron Rodgers, Sanchez, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, all of these guys are already so much better than Alex Smith. Even if Clausen has a CHANCE at being close to them i think he is worth the pick. When the f*ck is the webzone gonna get over the fact that we dont have a Qb, even if we did have a O line. How many times did Aaron Rodgers get sacked last year? He seemed to be doing alright.


The fact that drafting a Qb in the first round is such a stretch to a fanbase whose quarterbacks have been alex smith, trent dilfer, chris weinke, tim rattay, jesse palmer, jt Osullivan, and cody pickett, in the recent past is fkn beyond me.

Alex Smith is second coming of Jesus to some zoners.

Not only is that true, but their yearning for a tackletackletackletackletackle in this draft is blinding them of the fact that we still won't have a good Qb.

QB>Tackle.

we can still get a tackle with 17, or in the 2, 3 or 4 rounds. I think its funny that people LOL'ed at this thread when really Alex Smith to quarterbacks is probably the same as Adam Snyder to Right Tackles.

5 years later...... we take another qb in first...... wed look like idiots!

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Aaron Rodgers, Sanchez, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, all of these guys are already so much better than Alex Smith. Even if Clausen has a CHANCE at being close to them i think he is worth the pick. When the f*ck is the webzone gonna get over the fact that we dont have a Qb, even if we did have a O line. How many times did Aaron Rodgers get sacked last year? He seemed to be doing alright.


The fact that drafting a Qb in the first round is such a stretch to a fanbase whose quarterbacks have been alex smith, trent dilfer, chris weinke, tim rattay, jesse palmer, jt Osullivan, and cody pickett, in the recent past is fkn beyond me.

Alex Smith is second coming of Jesus to some zoners.

Not only is that true, but their yearning for a tackletackletackletackletackle in this draft is blinding them of the fact that we still won't have a good Qb.

QB>Tackle.

we can still get a tackle with 17, or in the 2, 3 or 4 rounds. I think its funny that people LOL'ed at this thread when really Alex Smith to quarterbacks is probably the same as Adam Snyder to Right Tackles.

Good luck with getting this message across.

Last year around this time two or three posters were trying to make the same point. "QB is the MOST important player position on the team" it was proposed. "Let's do something about it". But the concept got swallowed up and drown out by the hysteria of the majority of the posters, who come up with all kinds of reasons why it was a dumb idea. Most of it had to do with giving Alex time!?? Then they were other creative reasons, like:"we've already used a first pick on one; look how it's worked out", "we're not ready for a QB". WTF!!! . Every year it's the same refrain.

Without a good trigger man you really don't know what you've got. With a decent QB, suddenly the OL looks better; hey, the receivers are pretty decent after all; whatdoyaknow, the running game has picked up. The Niners have not had a decent QB for ages. But still: We don't need one.

Still, lack of a QB isn't the team's biggest problem. But that's a whole different story.

Originally posted by Draftology:

Originally posted by bigfan:

Originally posted by Draftology:

Originally posted by montana2rice:

Originally posted by Draftology:
he is the last player id want in this draft

why?? have you seen him play? do you know anything about him other than the b.s. comments we've been hearing during the past 3 months??

claussen is a STUD!! i'm a sc fan and i hate giving credit to a damer but i have to on this one. he will be a top qb in the league in the next few years.

I've seen him play and my cousin goes to Notre Dame. There is a reason Notre Dame fans hate him and are glad to see him leave. He has no killer instinct, he doesn't put his team on his back to win games, he is not a leader, and before this season he was considered a major disappointment production wise. He is a one hit wonder with personality issues. I agree the physical tools are there but the physical tools were there for Ryan Leaf too.

There is no facepalm pic that would acurately display my feelings towards your post. Clausen personally won several games for ND last year in the 4th quarter. Anyone who watched ND games last year knows this. You can even poll the Clausen haters on this board and they would tell you that he is a winner in the 4th quarter. If ND had a solid D, Clausen would have been in a BCS game last year.

I dont care if you want him on the team or not, but please make sure you know what you are talking about before you give your opinion as fact.

I've seen Clausen play in about 10 games and my cousin knows him and Golden Tate personally. On Clausen's deep balls, he chucks it up and puts waaaay too much air under it, he went to Notre Dame over USC because he didn't want to have to compete with Mark Sanchez, all Notre Dame fans obviously don't feel the way about him that you do because he got punched in the face at a bar, and in a poll by ESPN only 59% of the state of Indiana thinks he's better than Bradford. Shouldn't there be some home town bias. I was expecting around 88%. Bradford has had 2 major shoulder injuries, plays in the spread offense, has really only started for one year, and has had an elite line and receivers. So Bradford has a ton of questions yet he is the consensus best quarterback. The only analyst that puts Clausen ahead of him is Mel Kiper. If Clausen doesn't have character issues like you say, then how on Earth is he behind Bradford who has about as many questions about him as any #1 overall pick ever?

Getting punched by 1 person in 3 years does very little to support your argument that ND fans are happy to see him leave. Again the majority of fans would rather have him back. Go frequent some ND message boards and get back to me.

And what does his stock vs Sam Bradford's have to do with whether or not we should take him ? You are trying to change the argument now, avoiding your points that have been countered.

Does he put a little to much air under his deep balls, yes but that is correctable and a lot of that was his trust in his receivers (mainly Tate and Floyd) ability to go up and snag the ball at it's highest point which they had no problem doing. It's normal for a QB coming out of college to have some things that need worked on or tweaked and areas where they can stand to improve.

It seems the media are the ones questioning his character but not all in the media are. Again, the media. Mike Golic refuted the point as he was around the team a lot due to his sons playing on the team, Tony Dungy believes him to be a fiery competitor and a leader. There are plenty of others who have said a lot of media personalities has over-exaggerated his lack of leadership and character issues. And one more time every single teammate on the Irish roster voted him team captain, that speaks volumes about how his teammates felt.

You've seen 10 games, I've seen all 27 games he has played in. Maybe you need to go back and watch the film again instead of listening to your cousin who obviously doesn't seem to be very aware of Fighting Irish football.

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Aaron Rodgers, Sanchez, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, all of these guys are already so much better than Alex Smith. Even if Clausen has a CHANCE at being close to them i think he is worth the pick. When the f*ck is the webzone gonna get over the fact that we dont have a Qb, even if we did have a O line. How many times did Aaron Rodgers get sacked last year? He seemed to be doing alright.


The fact that drafting a Qb in the first round is such a stretch to a fanbase whose quarterbacks have been alex smith, trent dilfer, chris weinke, tim rattay, jesse palmer, jt Osullivan, and cody pickett, in the recent past is fkn beyond me.

Alex Smith is second coming of Jesus to some zoners.

Not only is that true, but their yearning for a tackletackletackletackletackle in this draft is blinding them of the fact that we still won't have a good Qb.

QB>Tackle.

we can still get a tackle with 17, or in the 2, 3 or 4 rounds. I think its funny that people LOL'ed at this thread when really Alex Smith to quarterbacks is probably the same as Adam Snyder to Right Tackles.

5 years later...... we take another qb in first...... wed look like idiots!

You shouldn't worry what others think. Ask the Chargers. 3 years after taking Leaf they took one with the 1st pick of the 2nd round and 2 years later they got one inside the top 5, so 6 years after Leaf they had Brees and Rivers. And Phillip Rivers is looking pretty good right now as is Brees down in New Orleans.

I am not advocating the pick but hell if we passed him over simply because we were worried what others (be it media, other teams or the fans) would think, we'd be even bigger idiots.

I acknowledge we need a QB but I don't think Clausen is worth a first rounder. This years QB class is very weak. Probably as weak as the 2005 class which we took Alex in. I just think Clausen wouldn't be going in the first round in a year which the cubbard wasn't so bare. He may turn out to be a good pro but I would still worry about his deep ball and decision making both on and off the field.

Jed York went to Notre Dame, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he drafted Clausen.

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by Draftology:

Originally posted by bigfan:

Originally posted by Draftology:

Originally posted by montana2rice:

Originally posted by Draftology:
he is the last player id want in this draft

why?? have you seen him play? do you know anything about him other than the b.s. comments we've been hearing during the past 3 months??

claussen is a STUD!! i'm a sc fan and i hate giving credit to a damer but i have to on this one. he will be a top qb in the league in the next few years.

I've seen him play and my cousin goes to Notre Dame. There is a reason Notre Dame fans hate him and are glad to see him leave. He has no killer instinct, he doesn't put his team on his back to win games, he is not a leader, and before this season he was considered a major disappointment production wise. He is a one hit wonder with personality issues. I agree the physical tools are there but the physical tools were there for Ryan Leaf too.

There is no facepalm pic that would acurately display my feelings towards your post. Clausen personally won several games for ND last year in the 4th quarter. Anyone who watched ND games last year knows this. You can even poll the Clausen haters on this board and they would tell you that he is a winner in the 4th quarter. If ND had a solid D, Clausen would have been in a BCS game last year.

I dont care if you want him on the team or not, but please make sure you know what you are talking about before you give your opinion as fact.

I've seen Clausen play in about 10 games and my cousin knows him and Golden Tate personally. On Clausen's deep balls, he chucks it up and puts waaaay too much air under it, he went to Notre Dame over USC because he didn't want to have to compete with Mark Sanchez, all Notre Dame fans obviously don't feel the way about him that you do because he got punched in the face at a bar, and in a poll by ESPN only 59% of the state of Indiana thinks he's better than Bradford. Shouldn't there be some home town bias. I was expecting around 88%. Bradford has had 2 major shoulder injuries, plays in the spread offense, has really only started for one year, and has had an elite line and receivers. So Bradford has a ton of questions yet he is the consensus best quarterback. The only analyst that puts Clausen ahead of him is Mel Kiper. If Clausen doesn't have character issues like you say, then how on Earth is he behind Bradford who has about as many questions about him as any #1 overall pick ever?

Getting punched by 1 person in 3 years does very little to support your argument that ND fans are happy to see him leave. Again the majority of fans would rather have him back. Go frequent some ND message boards and get back to me.

And what does his stock vs Sam Bradford's have to do with whether or not we should take him ? You are trying to change the argument now, avoiding your points that have been countered.

Does he put a little to much air under his deep balls, yes but that is correctable and a lot of that was his trust in his receivers (mainly Tate and Floyd) ability to go up and snag the ball at it's highest point which they had no problem doing. It's normal for a QB coming out of college to have some things that need worked on or tweaked and areas where they can stand to improve.

It seems the media are the ones questioning his character but not all in the media are. Again, the media. Mike Golic refuted the point as he was around the team a lot due to his sons playing on the team, Tony Dungy believes him to be a fiery competitor and a leader. There are plenty of others who have said a lot of media personalities has over-exaggerated his lack of leadership and character issues. And one more time every single teammate on the Irish roster voted him team captain, that speaks volumes about how his teammates felt.

You've seen 10 games, I've seen all 27 games he has played in. Maybe you need to go back and watch the film again instead of listening to your cousin who obviously doesn't seem to be very aware of Fighting Irish football.

I'm bringing up the comparisons with Bradford because Bradford has sooooooo many question marks yet almost everyone considers Bradford to be the number one quarterback, ahead of Clausen. I admit the punch argument isn't a very strong one but he still got hit one more time by his one fans than any other star quarterback I know of. And my cousin isn't the only Notre Dame fan I know that is happy he's gone. The fact that he has had good production, comes from a major program, has been a three year starter, and runs a pro-style offense makes him a good prospect. But even with those things going for him everyone considers Bradford to be better and it doesn't seem to be close. Also not a single one of his comebacks came against a ranked opponent. And why would the media make up the character issues? Doesn't Clausen seem like the golden boy that they would find any excuse to praise? I know the media just wants stories but the number one high school quarterback from so-cal becoming the starter at Football-U his freshman year and becoming a star seems like a pretty good story. And before this season he wasn't even mentioned as one of the top quarterbacks in the next NFL draft. He had one great year like Bradford, but yet Bradford is the consensus #1 pick.

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by Draftology:

Originally posted by bigfan:

Originally posted by Draftology:

Originally posted by montana2rice:

Originally posted by Draftology:
he is the last player id want in this draft

why?? have you seen him play? do you know anything about him other than the b.s. comments we've been hearing during the past 3 months??

claussen is a STUD!! i'm a sc fan and i hate giving credit to a damer but i have to on this one. he will be a top qb in the league in the next few years.

I've seen him play and my cousin goes to Notre Dame. There is a reason Notre Dame fans hate him and are glad to see him leave. He has no killer instinct, he doesn't put his team on his back to win games, he is not a leader, and before this season he was considered a major disappointment production wise. He is a one hit wonder with personality issues. I agree the physical tools are there but the physical tools were there for Ryan Leaf too.

There is no facepalm pic that would acurately display my feelings towards your post. Clausen personally won several games for ND last year in the 4th quarter. Anyone who watched ND games last year knows this. You can even poll the Clausen haters on this board and they would tell you that he is a winner in the 4th quarter. If ND had a solid D, Clausen would have been in a BCS game last year.

I dont care if you want him on the team or not, but please make sure you know what you are talking about before you give your opinion as fact.

I've seen Clausen play in about 10 games and my cousin knows him and Golden Tate personally. On Clausen's deep balls, he chucks it up and puts waaaay too much air under it, he went to Notre Dame over USC because he didn't want to have to compete with Mark Sanchez, all Notre Dame fans obviously don't feel the way about him that you do because he got punched in the face at a bar, and in a poll by ESPN only 59% of the state of Indiana thinks he's better than Bradford. Shouldn't there be some home town bias. I was expecting around 88%. Bradford has had 2 major shoulder injuries, plays in the spread offense, has really only started for one year, and has had an elite line and receivers. So Bradford has a ton of questions yet he is the consensus best quarterback. The only analyst that puts Clausen ahead of him is Mel Kiper. If Clausen doesn't have character issues like you say, then how on Earth is he behind Bradford who has about as many questions about him as any #1 overall pick ever?

Getting punched by 1 person in 3 years does very little to support your argument that ND fans are happy to see him leave. Again the majority of fans would rather have him back. Go frequent some ND message boards and get back to me.

And what does his stock vs Sam Bradford's have to do with whether or not we should take him ? You are trying to change the argument now, avoiding your points that have been countered.

Does he put a little to much air under his deep balls, yes but that is correctable and a lot of that was his trust in his receivers (mainly Tate and Floyd) ability to go up and snag the ball at it's highest point which they had no problem doing. It's normal for a QB coming out of college to have some things that need worked on or tweaked and areas where they can stand to improve.

It seems the media are the ones questioning his character but not all in the media are. Again, the media. Mike Golic refuted the point as he was around the team a lot due to his sons playing on the team, Tony Dungy believes him to be a fiery competitor and a leader. There are plenty of others who have said a lot of media personalities has over-exaggerated his lack of leadership and character issues. And one more time every single teammate on the Irish roster voted him team captain, that speaks volumes about how his teammates felt.

You've seen 10 games, I've seen all 27 games he has played in. Maybe you need to go back and watch the film again instead of listening to your cousin who obviously doesn't seem to be very aware of Fighting Irish football.

THANK YOU, KRS! Finally someone who knows what he's talking about in regards to Claussen. I'm a SC fan and I should hate him (I did when we played ND) but the kid is a stud and will be a stud at the next level. IMO, he's better than bradford. I wouldn't mind if we picked him with our #13 or #17 even though we have smith, carr, and davis. Regardless if we pick him, we NEED AN OT

Originally posted by montana2rice:

Originally posted by Draftology:
he is the last player id want in this draft

why?? have you seen him play? do you know anything about him other than the b.s. comments we've been hearing during the past 3 months??

claussen is a STUD!! i'm a sc fan and i hate giving credit to a damer but i have to on this one. he will be a top qb in the league in the next few years.

hes not a winner comes to mind

Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Aaron Rodgers, Sanchez, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, all of these guys are already so much better than Alex Smith. Even if Clausen has a CHANCE at being close to them i think he is worth the pick. When the f*ck is the webzone gonna get over the fact that we dont have a Qb, even if we did have a O line. How many times did Aaron Rodgers get sacked last year? He seemed to be doing alright.


The fact that drafting a Qb in the first round is such a stretch to a fanbase whose quarterbacks have been alex smith, trent dilfer, chris weinke, tim rattay, jesse palmer, jt Osullivan, and cody pickett, in the recent past is fkn beyond me.

the fact that u put sanchez over smith shows how much u know about football

Originally posted by Draftology:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by Draftology:

Originally posted by bigfan:

Originally posted by Draftology:

Originally posted by montana2rice:

Originally posted by Draftology:
he is the last player id want in this draft

why?? have you seen him play? do you know anything about him other than the b.s. comments we've been hearing during the past 3 months??

claussen is a STUD!! i'm a sc fan and i hate giving credit to a damer but i have to on this one. he will be a top qb in the league in the next few years.

I've seen him play and my cousin goes to Notre Dame. There is a reason Notre Dame fans hate him and are glad to see him leave. He has no killer instinct, he doesn't put his team on his back to win games, he is not a leader, and before this season he was considered a major disappointment production wise. He is a one hit wonder with personality issues. I agree the physical tools are there but the physical tools were there for Ryan Leaf too.

There is no facepalm pic that would acurately display my feelings towards your post. Clausen personally won several games for ND last year in the 4th quarter. Anyone who watched ND games last year knows this. You can even poll the Clausen haters on this board and they would tell you that he is a winner in the 4th quarter. If ND had a solid D, Clausen would have been in a BCS game last year.

I dont care if you want him on the team or not, but please make sure you know what you are talking about before you give your opinion as fact.

I've seen Clausen play in about 10 games and my cousin knows him and Golden Tate personally. On Clausen's deep balls, he chucks it up and puts waaaay too much air under it, he went to Notre Dame over USC because he didn't want to have to compete with Mark Sanchez, all Notre Dame fans obviously don't feel the way about him that you do because he got punched in the face at a bar, and in a poll by ESPN only 59% of the state of Indiana thinks he's better than Bradford. Shouldn't there be some home town bias. I was expecting around 88%. Bradford has had 2 major shoulder injuries, plays in the spread offense, has really only started for one year, and has had an elite line and receivers. So Bradford has a ton of questions yet he is the consensus best quarterback. The only analyst that puts Clausen ahead of him is Mel Kiper. If Clausen doesn't have character issues like you say, then how on Earth is he behind Bradford who has about as many questions about him as any #1 overall pick ever?

Getting punched by 1 person in 3 years does very little to support your argument that ND fans are happy to see him leave. Again the majority of fans would rather have him back. Go frequent some ND message boards and get back to me.

And what does his stock vs Sam Bradford's have to do with whether or not we should take him ? You are trying to change the argument now, avoiding your points that have been countered.

Does he put a little to much air under his deep balls, yes but that is correctable and a lot of that was his trust in his receivers (mainly Tate and Floyd) ability to go up and snag the ball at it's highest point which they had no problem doing. It's normal for a QB coming out of college to have some things that need worked on or tweaked and areas where they can stand to improve.

It seems the media are the ones questioning his character but not all in the media are. Again, the media. Mike Golic refuted the point as he was around the team a lot due to his sons playing on the team, Tony Dungy believes him to be a fiery competitor and a leader. There are plenty of others who have said a lot of media personalities has over-exaggerated his lack of leadership and character issues. And one more time every single teammate on the Irish roster voted him team captain, that speaks volumes about how his teammates felt.

You've seen 10 games, I've seen all 27 games he has played in. Maybe you need to go back and watch the film again instead of listening to your cousin who obviously doesn't seem to be very aware of Fighting Irish football.

I'm bringing up the comparisons with Bradford because Bradford has sooooooo many question marks yet almost everyone considers Bradford to be the number one quarterback, ahead of Clausen. I admit the punch argument isn't a very strong one but he still got hit one more time by his one fans than any other star quarterback I know of. And my cousin isn't the only Notre Dame fan I know that is happy he's gone. The fact that he has had good production, comes from a major program, has been a three year starter, and runs a pro-style offense makes him a good prospect. But even with those things going for him everyone considers Bradford to be better and it doesn't seem to be close. Also not a single one of his comebacks came against a ranked opponent. And why would the media make up the character issues? Doesn't Clausen seem like the golden boy that they would find any excuse to praise? I know the media just wants stories but the number one high school quarterback from so-cal becoming the starter at Football-U his freshman year and becoming a star seems like a pretty good story. And before this season he wasn't even mentioned as one of the top quarterbacks in the next NFL draft. He had one great year like Bradford, but yet Bradford is the consensus #1 pick.

Bradford does not have as many questions as you are making out and has 2 good seasons under his belt not one.

The mediots run with anything that is fed to them, likely someone or some team looking to drop a prospects stock for it's own gain. None of it matters because we will unlikely ever get the truth of the matter but all signs point to it being a fabrication when listening to any one of Clausen's teammates talk about him.

And while none of those comebacks were vs ranked opponents, go look at the other games and how well he performed. If not for a porous defense, Clausen would have led ND to more W's.

- vs Michigan...Down by 11, two 4th quarter Clausen led drives to take the lead for and the Irish and the defense surrenders the game winning score with 10 seconds left.

- vs USC...1 bad pass from Clausen on the final play of the game but he led the team down there for an attempted 3rd score in the 4th quarter, a quarter in which they came in down by 20. And it's hard to win games when you surrender 500+ yards to your opposition.

- vs Pitt....had the OL not drawn a 15 yard penalty, Clausen wouldn't have been in a 3rd and 16 situation late in the 4th when the controversial fumble occurred. Regardless of that he led his team down for another 4th quarter score when down by 16 then Tate returned a punt for a TD. Again Clausen leading his team in the 4th quarter to try and comeback and again put in that situation by a defense that couldn't stop the opposition.

- vs Standford....Notre Dame couldn't stop the run all day long but nonetheless Clausen with another 4th quarter score to give his team and 8 point lead and the D thanks him by surrendering 2 TD's after that, the 2nd leaving under a minute on the clock.

Originally posted by dald1:

Originally posted by montana2rice:

Originally posted by Draftology:
he is the last player id want in this draft

why?? have you seen him play? do you know anything about him other than the b.s. comments we've been hearing during the past 3 months??

claussen is a STUD!! i'm a sc fan and i hate giving credit to a damer but i have to on this one. he will be a top qb in the league in the next few years.

hes not a winner comes to mind

Yeah about that already covered in this thread. Talk to the 86th ranked defense about that. If you watched him play you would have seen why he couldn't win more games.