Originally posted by jreff22:
Few tidbits so far....
Jason Fox that high?
Rodger Saffold that low?
Gilyard and Decker seem a little high
McCluster much higher then I thought
Personal note....Dorin Dickerson....I think the kid is going to be great
You really see Morgan as a 3-4 OLB
CB rankings look great
Owens as a NT.....?
Who do you see as TED backers?
Just like I asked MD who raises red flags with you that YOU would stay away from?
To answer you first cluster of questions, I have to start out by reminding everybody that this list is compiled based on talent and fit for the system. I did not add round grades -- this board is separated by position so that everyone knows the BPA available at each position for each pick.
Fox is ranked that high based on his talent, but because of injury won't go before some of those other players. But, if you watched him play this year, he may very well have been the most balanced OT prospect in the whole draft. He's graded in the second round range, which in this list goes from players ranked 7-10. So I'm confused by the "Safford so low?" question because a late 2nd round grade isn't really low. He and Veldheer are neck and neck, but Jared's upside and superior athleticism place him a smidge higher in my mind. Draft day, it could go either way.
I'm surprised fans have cooled down on Gilyard. He's played lights out the past two years and I love the kids ability as well as character. He adds multiple dimensions to a team and has the moves to get good YAC. There's a reason he was graded a 1st rounded virtually the entire year. I have him slotted for the 2nd.
As for Decker, you've got a scenario much like Fox. Should've marked him as injured, an error there, but if you watched the kid play... Decker was the best offensive player on that team. Tons of heart, a clutch guy, and just super productive. Early 3rd round grade. May go in the 4th or so.
The top three RB's have 1st round grades. Dwyer and McCluster receive Early-to-Mid 2nd round grades. People have to be out of their minds to believe Dex is a 4.5 player. His grade didn't drop after the combine. I was actually surprised by his strength (20 reps.)
Morgan weighed in at 6-3 266, clocking 4.77 and he did well in agility drills, timing better than players such as Sergio Kindle, Pierre-Paul and Navorro Bowman, and right on par with the likes of Weatherspoon and Sapp. There will be some transitioning time needed, but he's got the talent to work with. I can indeed see him playing WILL.
Jeff Owens has an unbelievable amount of talent. And an unbelievable amount of strength. I can't recall but his 44 reps of 225 may have been the most of any player this year. Regardless, it's not just his strength that makes him a viable NT candidate. Owens understands very well the nuances of gap control, as his space-eating role with Georgia helped teach him. He handles double-teams with ease and despite his lack of size, Owens is one of those players who undoubtedly has all the ability to be a 3-4 NT. If he was 5-10 pounds heavier, no one would ever question this. But you have to understand a player, their build, and their abilities rather than just look at their weight when evaluating them and their fit.
McClain, Norwood, Dillard, Johnson, Conner, McLaughlin, Campbell, D'Imperio, Hall. (From the list provided).
Regarding Red Flag Players:
Personally, I would stay away from the following three players. . .
DE Greg Hardy - His multitude of injuries coupled with his inability to keep himself in shape in general make him an enormous risk. This kid has his work cut out for him if he's going to make it in the NFL. I see him as a guy who will probably struggle massively with consistency and I just don't know if he has the attitude and work ethic to have a long career.
OLB Ricky Sapp - Despite his combination of strength and speed, Sapp has managed to be disappointing overall. He should have put on a show at the combine, but really did not. He didn't have amazing production either and just watching him play, he did not seem to be able to use his strength to his advantage, struggling to shed blocks, and often losing leverage battles. Also has knee injury history.
WR Mike Williams - He may have all the talent in the world, but I have serious questions about his passion and commitment to the game of football. I would stay away and not risk it.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Mar 27, 2010 at 19:02:52 ]