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OTC's 49er Board: Draft Cheatsheet.

Now, before you download PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO READ some notes
I've made which will answer questions I'm sure you might have when looking at the board.
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1. This board does NOT include Specialists (I see no purpose in ranking P, K, and LS and leave them out to save time.)

2. This board also does NOT include Quarterbacks. (I do not expect us to take one unless they are converting to receiver, and in that case they'd be listed under Wide Receivers. I know my own rankings in my head already, so to save time, I did not include them.)

3. Players marked with + are injured. If they seem higher than they should be, it's because they are expected to play this year. Players like O'Brien Schofield, however, are ranked lower because he will not play this season.

4. Players marked with an asterisk (*) are underclassmen.

5. Players marked with an ® are players with return ability, or players I expect to return kicks/punts.

6. These boards are NOT projectory. That means they are NOT predicting the order in which players will go. Think of them merely as an "OTC's Best Available" list for each position, which is really what a board is.

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Special thanks to AB83 for hosting the files, since some individuals had issues getting them with the previous links. I have now included a Word document format. It'll look ugly in Word due to its spell-check feature, but will print cleanly.

Any other questions, feel free to ask. Enjoy your Draft Cheatsheet.

MS Word: http://draftwatchers.com/OTC49erBoard.doc
MS Excel: http://draftwatchers.com/OTC49erBoard.xls


[ Edited by OnTheClock on Apr 20, 2010 at 22:43:20 ]
I'd put Davis and Campbell over Brown under OTs and Wilson at #2 under CBs.

[ Edited by nickbradley on Mar 27, 2010 at 14:38:02 ]
Originally posted by nickbradley:
I'd put Davis and Campbell over Brown under OTs and Wilson at #2 under CBs.

I base my grades off of a variety of factors, not just their workout numbers.

Brown is a top-tier pass protector and is far more polished than either of the other two. Davis struggled mightily with consistency this year, didn't workout well, and major concerns about his attitude and work ethic have surfaced.

As for Campbell, many scouts argue he shouldn't even be considered a first rounder. Bruce is incredibly raw and he was a little nicked up this year. He's got tremendous athleticism but he's mostly just potential right now.

[ Edited by OnTheClock on Mar 27, 2010 at 14:46:29 ]
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Good to see where you have Brown rated, I think he is the 3rd best OT and will probably be the pick at 17.
Originally posted by mayo63:
Good to see where you have Brown rated, I think he is the 3rd best OT and will probably be the pick at 17.

u place him above Williams?
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Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by mayo63:
Good to see where you have Brown rated, I think he is the 3rd best OT and will probably be the pick at 17.

u place him above Williams?

Yeah, Williams is probably only a RT who they're going to try to put at LT because of where he's drafted. Brown is a natural LT with excellent pass protection skills (that's been the knock on Williams when they moved him to LT), who can probably move over to RT. If they take Brown, I'd love to see them keep him at LT and move Staley over to RT.

[ Edited by mayo63 on Mar 27, 2010 at 16:50:43 ]
Few tidbits so far....

Jason Fox that high?
Rodger Saffold that low?
Gilyard and Decker seem a little high
McCluster much higher then I thought
Personal note....Dorin Dickerson....I think the kid is going to be great
You really see Morgan as a 3-4 OLB
CB rankings look great
Owens as a NT.....?

Who do you see as TED backers?

Just like I asked MD who raises red flags with you that YOU would stay away from?
Thanks for the hard work OTC. Interesting you have Fox over Saffold.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Few tidbits so far....

Jason Fox that high?
Rodger Saffold that low?
Gilyard and Decker seem a little high
McCluster much higher then I thought
Personal note....Dorin Dickerson....I think the kid is going to be great
You really see Morgan as a 3-4 OLB
CB rankings look great
Owens as a NT.....?

Who do you see as TED backers?

Just like I asked MD who raises red flags with you that YOU would stay away from?

To answer you first cluster of questions, I have to start out by reminding everybody that this list is compiled based on talent and fit for the system. I did not add round grades -- this board is separated by position so that everyone knows the BPA available at each position for each pick.

Fox is ranked that high based on his talent, but because of injury won't go before some of those other players. But, if you watched him play this year, he may very well have been the most balanced OT prospect in the whole draft. He's graded in the second round range, which in this list goes from players ranked 7-10. So I'm confused by the "Safford so low?" question because a late 2nd round grade isn't really low. He and Veldheer are neck and neck, but Jared's upside and superior athleticism place him a smidge higher in my mind. Draft day, it could go either way.

I'm surprised fans have cooled down on Gilyard. He's played lights out the past two years and I love the kids ability as well as character. He adds multiple dimensions to a team and has the moves to get good YAC. There's a reason he was graded a 1st rounded virtually the entire year. I have him slotted for the 2nd.

As for Decker, you've got a scenario much like Fox. Should've marked him as injured, an error there, but if you watched the kid play... Decker was the best offensive player on that team. Tons of heart, a clutch guy, and just super productive. Early 3rd round grade. May go in the 4th or so.

The top three RB's have 1st round grades. Dwyer and McCluster receive Early-to-Mid 2nd round grades. People have to be out of their minds to believe Dex is a 4.5 player. His grade didn't drop after the combine. I was actually surprised by his strength (20 reps.)

Morgan weighed in at 6-3 266, clocking 4.77 and he did well in agility drills, timing better than players such as Sergio Kindle, Pierre-Paul and Navorro Bowman, and right on par with the likes of Weatherspoon and Sapp. There will be some transitioning time needed, but he's got the talent to work with. I can indeed see him playing WILL.

Jeff Owens has an unbelievable amount of talent. And an unbelievable amount of strength. I can't recall but his 44 reps of 225 may have been the most of any player this year. Regardless, it's not just his strength that makes him a viable NT candidate. Owens understands very well the nuances of gap control, as his space-eating role with Georgia helped teach him. He handles double-teams with ease and despite his lack of size, Owens is one of those players who undoubtedly has all the ability to be a 3-4 NT. If he was 5-10 pounds heavier, no one would ever question this. But you have to understand a player, their build, and their abilities rather than just look at their weight when evaluating them and their fit.

TED Backers: McClain, Norwood, Dillard, Johnson, Conner, McLaughlin, Campbell, D'Imperio, Hall. (From the list provided).

Regarding Red Flag Players: Personally, I would stay away from the following three players. . .

DE Greg Hardy - His multitude of injuries coupled with his inability to keep himself in shape in general make him an enormous risk. This kid has his work cut out for him if he's going to make it in the NFL. I see him as a guy who will probably struggle massively with consistency and I just don't know if he has the attitude and work ethic to have a long career.

OLB Ricky Sapp - Despite his combination of strength and speed, Sapp has managed to be disappointing overall. He should have put on a show at the combine, but really did not. He didn't have amazing production either and just watching him play, he did not seem to be able to use his strength to his advantage, struggling to shed blocks, and often losing leverage battles. Also has knee injury history.

WR Mike Williams - He may have all the talent in the world, but I have serious questions about his passion and commitment to the game of football. I would stay away and not risk it.

[ Edited by OnTheClock on Mar 27, 2010 at 19:02:52 ]
Originally posted by kronik:
Thanks for the hard work OTC. Interesting you have Fox over Saffold.

Appreciate it. If healthy, I would have selected him over Saffold. Injured though, I would slide him into the 11-13 rank range. Just to give you an idea of where he stands in reality right now.

FYI Folks, I have fixed the boards as I noticed two important ILB's were missing -- Albert McClellan and Brandon Spikes. This error has been corrected.

[ Edited by OnTheClock on Mar 27, 2010 at 19:09:51 ]
Great job OTC!
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Few tidbits so far....

Jason Fox that high?
Rodger Saffold that low?
Gilyard and Decker seem a little high
McCluster much higher then I thought
Personal note....Dorin Dickerson....I think the kid is going to be great
You really see Morgan as a 3-4 OLB
CB rankings look great
Owens as a NT.....?

Who do you see as TED backers?

Just like I asked MD who raises red flags with you that YOU would stay away from?

To answer you first cluster of questions, I have to start out by reminding everybody that this list is compiled based on talent and fit for the system. I did not add round grades -- this board is separated by position so that everyone knows the BPA available at each position for each pick.

Fox is ranked that high based on his talent, but because of injury won't go before some of those other players. But, if you watched him play this year, he may very well have been the most balanced OT prospect in the whole draft. He's graded in the second round range, which in this list goes from players ranked 7-10. So I'm confused by the "Safford so low?" question because a late 2nd round grade isn't really low. He and Veldheer are neck and neck, but Jared's upside and superior athleticism place him a smidge higher in my mind. Draft day, it could go either way.

I'm surprised fans have cooled down on Gilyard. He's played lights out the past two years and I love the kids ability as well as character. He adds multiple dimensions to a team and has the moves to get good YAC. There's a reason he was graded a 1st rounded virtually the entire year. I have him slotted for the 2nd.

As for Decker, you've got a scenario much like Fox. Should've marked him as injured, an error there, but if you watched the kid play... Decker was the best offensive player on that team. Tons of heart, a clutch guy, and just super productive. Early 3rd round grade. May go in the 4th or so.

The top three RB's have 1st round grades. Dwyer and McCluster receive Early-to-Mid 2nd round grades. People have to be out of their minds to believe Dex is a 4.5 player. His grade didn't drop after the combine. I was actually surprised by his strength (20 reps.)

Morgan weighed in at 6-3 266, clocking 4.77 and he did well in agility drills, timing better than players such as Sergio Kindle, Pierre-Paul and Navorro Bowman, and right on par with the likes of Weatherspoon and Sapp. There will be some transitioning time needed, but he's got the talent to work with. I can indeed see him playing WILL.

Jeff Owens has an unbelievable amount of talent. And an unbelievable amount of strength. I can't recall but his 44 reps of 225 may have been the most of any player this year. Regardless, it's not just his strength that makes him a viable NT candidate. Owens understands very well the nuances of gap control, as his space-eating role with Georgia helped teach him. He handles double-teams with ease and despite his lack of size, Owens is one of those players who undoubtedly has all the ability to be a 3-4 NT. If he was 5-10 pounds heavier, no one would ever question this. But you have to understand a player, their build, and their abilities rather than just look at their weight when evaluating them and their fit.

TED Backers: McClain, Norwood, Dillard, Johnson, Conner, McLaughlin, Campbell, D'Imperio, Hall. (From the list provided).

Regarding Red Flag Players: Personally, I would stay away from the following three players. . .

DE Greg Hardy - His multitude of injuries coupled with his inability to keep himself in shape in general make him an enormous risk. This kid has his work cut out for him if he's going to make it in the NFL. I see him as a guy who will probably struggle massively with consistency and I just don't know if he has the attitude and work ethic to have a long career.

OLB Ricky Sapp - Despite his combination of strength and speed, Sapp has managed to be disappointing overall. He should have put on a show at the combine, but really did not. He didn't have amazing production either and just watching him play, he did not seem to be able to use his strength to his advantage, struggling to shed blocks, and often losing leverage battles. Also has knee injury history.

WR Mike Williams - He may have all the talent in the world, but I have serious questions about his passion and commitment to the game of football. I would stay away and not risk it.

Let me elaborate a little more, was running out of the house with the gf so I couldn't go into detail like I wanted.

Regarding Jason Fox:
Through most of the year he was rated as a sure fire 2nd rounder, that I can agree with. Being from the Miami pedigree he will bring that nasty attitude that I happen to love. My statement about him being so high is based on his grouping with the surrounding players, I see him more at 10 on your list. While others have gained some momentum and risen its only natural that others will fall, which I think he has.

Regarding Saffold:
I have a feeling the kid cracks the first round, call me crazy. The press on the kid has been very positive and teams have noticed. Because Davis has been hit with the "fat and lazy" stigma and Campbell has been hit with the "raw workout warrior" stigma....I think Saffold may jump up. I know you pegged him as a late 2nd rounder but I have a funny feeling on this kid.

Regarding Gilyard:
The comment was because of the other WR's you have him leapfrogging. I was surprised you had him higher then Williams, LaFell, Ford, and Thomas. The kid call ball for sure but he was in a very pass heavy offense.

Regarding Decker:
I remember watching one of his games and by the end it looked like he was hit by a truck. He kept getting hurt, got more tape then went back on the field. The kid has guts and has fantastic size. And again my comment was more surprise by the guys you have him ranked over. My questions about him are injury related, how is he going to hold up in the NFL. And I would like to see some numbers (pro day) to see what he can do.

Regarding McCluster:
Bottom line what is he......? Is the kid a RB or a WR, is he a true RB or a Wildcat RB? I have a hard time seeing him that high and higher then Gerhart especially when he's so little. He's one of the guys that I'm very curious to see where he goes and when!

Regarding Morgan:
In my opinion he's the best pure 4-3 DE, I wouldn't want to f**k up a good thing. Considering how high he grades out, its a big gamble.

Regarding Owens:
Scratch that my error, I was thinking of Atkins.
Originally posted by jreff22:


Regarding Morgan:
In my opinion he's the best pure 4-3 DE, I wouldn't want to f**k up a good thing. Considering how high he grades out, its a big gamble.

Regarding Owens:
Scratch that my error, I was thinking of Atkins.

With Morgan, there's of course a difference between "the ability to" and "best suited to." I have no disagreement that Morgan is probably best suited to play as a 4-3 End. But at the same time, do I feel he could play 3-4 OLB? Yes, certainly.

Quick note: If anyone catches any typos, missing information, or thinks any ranks are off, let me know. I've noticed a few issues as I glance over this each day to make sure it's all set exactly as it should be by draft time.

[ Edited by OnTheClock on Mar 28, 2010 at 12:41:36 ]
Love the work OTC. With the work you and MadDog do I never have to buy any draft publications. We are spoiled. Thank you.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Now, before you download PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO READ some notes I've made which will answer questions I'm sure you might have when looking at the board.

* This Board does NOT include Specialists (I see no purpose in ranking P, K, and LS and leave them out to save time.)

* This Board also does NOT include Quarterbacks. (I do not expect us to take one unless they are converting to receiver, and in that case they'd be listed under Wide Receivers. I know my own rankings in my head already, so save time, I did not include them.)

* Players marked with a + are injured. If they seem higher than they should be, it's because they are expected to play this year. Players like O'Brien Schofield, however, are ranked lower because he will not play this season.

* Players marked with an asterisk (*) are underclassmen.

* Players marked with an ® are players with return ability, or players expected to return kicks/punts.

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