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All Eyes on Florida's Pro Day (3/17)

  • TX9R
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Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by TX9R:
Originally posted by northshore:
Dam Haden!! Why did you have to run so fast... Now there is no way he falls to us. All you haters just put on his game tape, grab some popcorn and watch him shut down the best WR's the SEC has to offer, which are some of the best wr propsects in the nation.

The SEC has some of the worst WRs in the nation, the entire conference sucks at passing. Julio Jones gets a lot of hype, but he hasn't really shown me much, who else is any good in that conference? I've been saying from day 1 Haden is overrated because he hasn't had to cover anyone any good, and the QBs in the SEC aren't any good as far as pure passers go.

Julio Jones, AJ Green, Brandon Lafell, Shay Hodge and at times McCluster who were all good SEC WR's this year to say the least. Last year there was also Massaquoi, McKinley & Byrd in the SEC. That doesn't account for facing WR's like Gilyard, Iglesias & Broyles in Bowl games the last 2 years.

And Haden has had to go against the likes of Cooper, Murphy and Harvin the last 2 years in practices.

Those guys are decent at best, but more importantly, had no QBs that were any good. The SEC is the best conference in NCAA, but it is a smash mouth conference, the QBs are the weakest of any conference.
As far as practice, Cooper is meh, Murphy pretty good, and Harvin came out of the backfield so much I doubt Haden was on him much if at all. I'm not saying the guy sucks, I just don't think he is an elite prospect worthy of a top 15 pick is all.
Originally posted by TX9R:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by TX9R:
Originally posted by northshore:
Dam Haden!! Why did you have to run so fast... Now there is no way he falls to us. All you haters just put on his game tape, grab some popcorn and watch him shut down the best WR's the SEC has to offer, which are some of the best wr propsects in the nation.

The SEC has some of the worst WRs in the nation, the entire conference sucks at passing. Julio Jones gets a lot of hype, but he hasn't really shown me much, who else is any good in that conference? I've been saying from day 1 Haden is overrated because he hasn't had to cover anyone any good, and the QBs in the SEC aren't any good as far as pure passers go.

Julio Jones, AJ Green, Brandon Lafell, Shay Hodge and at times McCluster who were all good SEC WR's this year to say the least. Last year there was also Massaquoi, McKinley & Byrd in the SEC. That doesn't account for facing WR's like Gilyard, Iglesias & Broyles in Bowl games the last 2 years.

And Haden has had to go against the likes of Cooper, Murphy and Harvin the last 2 years in practices.

Those guys are decent at best, but more importantly, had no QBs that were any good. The SEC is the best conference in NCAA, but it is a smash mouth conference, the QBs are the weakest of any conference.
As far as practice, Cooper is meh, Murphy pretty good, and Harvin came out of the backfield so much I doubt Haden was on him much if at all. I'm not saying the guy sucks, I just don't think he is an elite prospect worthy of a top 15 pick is all.


My sentiments exactly. One of the strengths of this year's draft is also the depth of the CB position, I wouldn't mind a CB in the 3rd or beyond, and we can still get great potential quality there.
Haden met with the 49ers today

Quote:
– Haden said the team he has had the most contact with is the Browns. Makes sense that Holmgren and Mangini are here today. Haden also had a meeting with the 49ers today.

Originally posted by TX9R:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by TX9R:
Originally posted by northshore:
Dam Haden!! Why did you have to run so fast... Now there is no way he falls to us. All you haters just put on his game tape, grab some popcorn and watch him shut down the best WR's the SEC has to offer, which are some of the best wr propsects in the nation.

The SEC has some of the worst WRs in the nation, the entire conference sucks at passing. Julio Jones gets a lot of hype, but he hasn't really shown me much, who else is any good in that conference? I've been saying from day 1 Haden is overrated because he hasn't had to cover anyone any good, and the QBs in the SEC aren't any good as far as pure passers go.

Julio Jones, AJ Green, Brandon Lafell, Shay Hodge and at times McCluster who were all good SEC WR's this year to say the least. Last year there was also Massaquoi, McKinley & Byrd in the SEC. That doesn't account for facing WR's like Gilyard, Iglesias & Broyles in Bowl games the last 2 years.

And Haden has had to go against the likes of Cooper, Murphy and Harvin the last 2 years in practices.

Those guys are decent at best, but more importantly, had no QBs that were any good. The SEC is the best conference in NCAA, but it is a smash mouth conference, the QBs are the weakest of any conference.
As far as practice, Cooper is meh, Murphy pretty good, and Harvin came out of the backfield so much I doubt Haden was on him much if at all. I'm not saying the guy sucks, I just don't think he is an elite prospect worthy of a top 15 pick is all.

The ignorance in this post is simply AMAZING! Did you real just say AJ green and Julion Jones are "decent at best" do you seriously believe that. The other receivers mentioned are solid however, these 2 guys are phenoms physically and will be top picks themselves when they come out. Just because they have a bad QB that is really minimally important when watching film on a CB beccause you are watching how he reads a route stem in his backpedal, how he plays each tecnique, and the looking at his tendacies and his physical tools. Haden IS a "elite prospect" Haden will be very good in this league and simply shut guys down if he falls to us and we take him we should be happy and we have some of the weakest pass D out there. All the hate in this thread towards Haden is seriously misguided due to a lack of his "timed speed". The kid will be good everyone in here needs to stop being Al Davis clones and so worried about the stop watch and just watch the kid on film where he blankets people and has great recovery speed and lateral agility.
I will go on record saying that I do not want Haden...that is all

Originally posted by jreff22:
I will go on record saying that I do not want Haden...that is all


lol. "Let's give it up for Randy Watson aka Sexual Chocolate."
  • TX9R
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Originally posted by nvchamp9ers:
Originally posted by TX9R:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by TX9R:
Originally posted by northshore:
Dam Haden!! Why did you have to run so fast... Now there is no way he falls to us. All you haters just put on his game tape, grab some popcorn and watch him shut down the best WR's the SEC has to offer, which are some of the best wr propsects in the nation.

The SEC has some of the worst WRs in the nation, the entire conference sucks at passing. Julio Jones gets a lot of hype, but he hasn't really shown me much, who else is any good in that conference? I've been saying from day 1 Haden is overrated because he hasn't had to cover anyone any good, and the QBs in the SEC aren't any good as far as pure passers go.

Julio Jones, AJ Green, Brandon Lafell, Shay Hodge and at times McCluster who were all good SEC WR's this year to say the least. Last year there was also Massaquoi, McKinley & Byrd in the SEC. That doesn't account for facing WR's like Gilyard, Iglesias & Broyles in Bowl games the last 2 years.

And Haden has had to go against the likes of Cooper, Murphy and Harvin the last 2 years in practices.

Those guys are decent at best, but more importantly, had no QBs that were any good. The SEC is the best conference in NCAA, but it is a smash mouth conference, the QBs are the weakest of any conference.
As far as practice, Cooper is meh, Murphy pretty good, and Harvin came out of the backfield so much I doubt Haden was on him much if at all. I'm not saying the guy sucks, I just don't think he is an elite prospect worthy of a top 15 pick is all.

The ignorance in this post is simply AMAZING! Did you real just say AJ green and Julion Jones are "decent at best" do you seriously believe that. The other receivers mentioned are solid however, these 2 guys are phenoms physically and will be top picks themselves when they come out. Just because they have a bad QB that is really minimally important when watching film on a CB beccause you are watching how he reads a route stem in his backpedal, how he plays each tecnique, and the looking at his tendacies and his physical tools. Haden IS a "elite prospect" Haden will be very good in this league and simply shut guys down if he falls to us and we take him we should be happy and we have some of the weakest pass D out there. All the hate in this thread towards Haden is seriously misguided due to a lack of his "timed speed". The kid will be good everyone in here needs to stop being Al Davis clones and so worried about the stop watch and just watch the kid on film where he blankets people and has great recovery speed and lateral agility.

Ignorance? Hardly. Sorry, I disagree, doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. Julio Jones has been hyped since H.S, but show me the production in college, sorry 8 TDs in 2 years on any offense is nothing to write home about. AJ Green has nice potential but he isn't there yet and has similar unimpressive production to Jones. Of course QB has an effect, it's easier to make a play if the QB isn't accurate
And point to the part in any post where I have mentioned timed speed. Also, I'm sick of hearing about guys "looking at the film" and examining single players. Dude, you don't have any film. Youtube isn't film. As far as physical tools, he isn't protypical size, he doesn't possess exceptional speed, he doesn't provide added value in the return game. Nothing about him would be considered elite and there's much better value for what we need later in the draft.
I'm going to withhold judgment on today's performance until I hear some clarity on his times. I've heard ranges from the high 4.3's to 4.52.

In the end, I think he'll be evaluated as a 4.45 player, and that is going to put right in the area where the Niners will select at number 13. I don't perceive him as a top 10 pick.

Cheers.

P.S. The biggest non-Tebow/Haden buzz seems to be that Brandon Spikes (who supposed ran slowly) was clearly outshined by the immortal Dustin Doe at the LB position drills. That would be a big problem for the eye-poker. But, as stated before, I want to hear more word before I can make a better evaluation.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I'm going to withhold judgment on today's performance until I hear some clarity on his times. I've heard ranges from the high 4.3's to 4.52.

In the end, I think he'll be evaluated as a 4.45 player, and that is going to put right in the area where the Niners will select at number 13. I don't perceive him as a top 10 pick.

Cheers.

P.S. The biggest non-Tebow/Haden buzz seems to be that Brandon Spikes (who supposed ran slowly) was clearly outshined by the immortal Dustin Doe at the LB position drills. That would be a big problem for the eye-poker. But, as stated before, I want to hear more word before I can make a better evaluation.

Ok I have to ask....Spiller and Haden are available.....who do YOU pick?
Scouts are walking away from the workout with a better feeling about Tim Tebow than they did two months ago at the Senior Bowl. His accuracy was better and he was completing passes, but receivers found it necessary to reach backwards or bend to the ground to grab his throws. He also under-threw a lot of passes. The general feeling is while Tebow improved he still needs a lot of work on his game.

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Originally posted by TX9R:
Originally posted by nvchamp9ers:
Originally posted by TX9R:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by TX9R:
Originally posted by northshore:
Dam Haden!! Why did you have to run so fast... Now there is no way he falls to us. All you haters just put on his game tape, grab some popcorn and watch him shut down the best WR's the SEC has to offer, which are some of the best wr propsects in the nation.

The SEC has some of the worst WRs in the nation, the entire conference sucks at passing. Julio Jones gets a lot of hype, but he hasn't really shown me much, who else is any good in that conference? I've been saying from day 1 Haden is overrated because he hasn't had to cover anyone any good, and the QBs in the SEC aren't any good as far as pure passers go.

Julio Jones, AJ Green, Brandon Lafell, Shay Hodge and at times McCluster who were all good SEC WR's this year to say the least. Last year there was also Massaquoi, McKinley & Byrd in the SEC. That doesn't account for facing WR's like Gilyard, Iglesias & Broyles in Bowl games the last 2 years.

And Haden has had to go against the likes of Cooper, Murphy and Harvin the last 2 years in practices.

Those guys are decent at best, but more importantly, had no QBs that were any good. The SEC is the best conference in NCAA, but it is a smash mouth conference, the QBs are the weakest of any conference.
As far as practice, Cooper is meh, Murphy pretty good, and Harvin came out of the backfield so much I doubt Haden was on him much if at all. I'm not saying the guy sucks, I just don't think he is an elite prospect worthy of a top 15 pick is all.

The ignorance in this post is simply AMAZING! Did you real just say AJ green and Julion Jones are "decent at best" do you seriously believe that. The other receivers mentioned are solid however, these 2 guys are phenoms physically and will be top picks themselves when they come out. Just because they have a bad QB that is really minimally important when watching film on a CB beccause you are watching how he reads a route stem in his backpedal, how he plays each tecnique, and the looking at his tendacies and his physical tools. Haden IS a "elite prospect" Haden will be very good in this league and simply shut guys down if he falls to us and we take him we should be happy and we have some of the weakest pass D out there. All the hate in this thread towards Haden is seriously misguided due to a lack of his "timed speed". The kid will be good everyone in here needs to stop being Al Davis clones and so worried about the stop watch and just watch the kid on film where he blankets people and has great recovery speed and lateral agility.

Ignorance? Hardly. Sorry, I disagree, doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. Julio Jones has been hyped since H.S, but show me the production in college, sorry 8 TDs in 2 years on any offense is nothing to write home about. AJ Green has nice potential but he isn't there yet and has similar unimpressive production to Jones. Of course QB has an effect, it's easier to make a play if the QB isn't accurate
And point to the part in any post where I have mentioned timed speed. Also, I'm sick of hearing about guys "looking at the film" and examining single players. Dude, you don't have any film. Youtube isn't film. As far as physical tools, he isn't protypical size, he doesn't possess exceptional speed, he doesn't provide added value in the return game. Nothing about him would be considered elite and there's much better value for what we need later in the draft.

You want to see college production?? watch Joe Haden on film!
Originally posted by nvchamp9ers:
Originally posted by TX9R:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by TX9R:
Originally posted by northshore:
Dam Haden!! Why did you have to run so fast... Now there is no way he falls to us. All you haters just put on his game tape, grab some popcorn and watch him shut down the best WR's the SEC has to offer, which are some of the best wr propsects in the nation.

The SEC has some of the worst WRs in the nation, the entire conference sucks at passing. Julio Jones gets a lot of hype, but he hasn't really shown me much, who else is any good in that conference? I've been saying from day 1 Haden is overrated because he hasn't had to cover anyone any good, and the QBs in the SEC aren't any good as far as pure passers go.

Julio Jones, AJ Green, Brandon Lafell, Shay Hodge and at times McCluster who were all good SEC WR's this year to say the least. Last year there was also Massaquoi, McKinley & Byrd in the SEC. That doesn't account for facing WR's like Gilyard, Iglesias & Broyles in Bowl games the last 2 years.

And Haden has had to go against the likes of Cooper, Murphy and Harvin the last 2 years in practices.

Those guys are decent at best, but more importantly, had no QBs that were any good. The SEC is the best conference in NCAA, but it is a smash mouth conference, the QBs are the weakest of any conference.
As far as practice, Cooper is meh, Murphy pretty good, and Harvin came out of the backfield so much I doubt Haden was on him much if at all. I'm not saying the guy sucks, I just don't think he is an elite prospect worthy of a top 15 pick is all.

The ignorance in this post is simply AMAZING! Did you real just say AJ green and Julion Jones are "decent at best" do you seriously believe that. The other receivers mentioned are solid however, these 2 guys are phenoms physically and will be top picks themselves when they come out. Just because they have a bad QB that is really minimally important when watching film on a CB beccause you are watching how he reads a route stem in his backpedal, how he plays each tecnique, and the looking at his tendacies and his physical tools. Haden IS a "elite prospect" Haden will be very good in this league and simply shut guys down if he falls to us and we take him we should be happy and we have some of the weakest pass D out there. All the hate in this thread towards Haden is seriously misguided due to a lack of his "timed speed". The kid will be good everyone in here needs to stop being Al Davis clones and so worried about the stop watch and just watch the kid on film where he blankets people and has great recovery speed and lateral agility.

Good to see you back on here, NV.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I'm going to withhold judgment on today's performance until I hear some clarity on his times. I've heard ranges from the high 4.3's to 4.52.

In the end, I think he'll be evaluated as a 4.45 player, and that is going to put right in the area where the Niners will select at number 13. I don't perceive him as a top 10 pick.

Cheers.

P.S. The biggest non-Tebow/Haden buzz seems to be that Brandon Spikes (who supposed ran slowly) was clearly outshined by the immortal Dustin Doe at the LB position drills. That would be a big problem for the eye-poker. But, as stated before, I want to hear more word before I can make a better evaluation.

Who the hell is Dustin Doe?
Originally posted by jta854:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I'm going to withhold judgment on today's performance until I hear some clarity on his times. I've heard ranges from the high 4.3's to 4.52.

In the end, I think he'll be evaluated as a 4.45 player, and that is going to put right in the area where the Niners will select at number 13. I don't perceive him as a top 10 pick.

Cheers.

P.S. The biggest non-Tebow/Haden buzz seems to be that Brandon Spikes (who supposed ran slowly) was clearly outshined by the immortal Dustin Doe at the LB position drills. That would be a big problem for the eye-poker. But, as stated before, I want to hear more word before I can make a better evaluation.

Who the hell is Dustin Doe?

John's younger brother
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